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secular woods sex
Aug 1, 2000
I dispense wisdom by the gallon.

DreamingofRoses posted:

I just started on the InCryptid audiobooks. I’m like a third of the way into the first one and I adore the mice.
I think I had an existential crisis for a second when I first encountered them in the books. How could an author handle sentient mice that worship a family of humans as flesh and blood deities without making it seem gross or manipulative or abusive?

And then Seanan McGuire loving knocked out of the park. The mice are amazing.

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xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

DreamingofRoses posted:

I just started on the InCryptid audiobooks. I’m like a third of the way into the first one and I adore the mice.

InCryptid is one of those series' you just can't explain to a friend without making it sound incredibly dumb, but the author pulls it off somehow.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

darthbob88 posted:

Quantum of Nightmares . The realistic grocery store horror doesn't extend much beyond management, the rest of the dystopia is stuff that companies wish they could get away with, and misuse of a meat 3D printer.

Stross's lovecraftian horrorscape Britain has pretty consistently been about two years ahead of what Tory Britain actually does so I expect people meat made from the 'de-emphasised' in stores sometime in 2023!

The whole Laundry files has shifted from a fun urban fantasy/IT crowd mashup to a rage outlet as Stross's seething hatred for the UK establishment boils over from Brexit (2016) onwards and I just don't think it's as good as it was unfortunately.

Doesn't mean it's bad tho just different.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


xsf421 posted:

InCryptid is one of those series' you just can't explain to a friend without making it sound incredibly dumb, but the author pulls it off somehow.

“Yes there are a lot of dance competition scenes in this series, but it WORKS dammit!”

stabbity
Sep 28, 2004

ToxicFrog posted:

I've never even heard of these but they sound like they might be something I'd enjoy, thanks!

It's a pretty decent series. I'm currently rereading it because I missed the last three books and am now excited that it's wrapped up. I found the series after seeing the author go viral on Twitter for torturing her cranky neighbor with inflatable dragon decorations one year.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


navyjack posted:

HAIL!!

The mice are the best part of those books.

Hard agree.

Not to say that I don't like the rest of it - my wife and I both enjoy the books a great deal, and it's one of the few series where I read each book as soon as it comes out -- but the mice are the best part.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib

ConfusedUs posted:

I firmly believe that if the 20 Palaces prequel had come out as the first book in the series, then the series would still be going strong.

The actual first 20P novel is good, but it is very opaque for a very long time. It doesn't do enough to let the reader into the mystery. Instead it leaves them as confused and frustrated as Ray, and that's a huge turnoff to casual readers.

Personally I loved it, but I couldn't imagine recommending 20 Palaces to any of my casual reader friends until the prequel came out. The background you get from the prequel adds some much-needed context.

I took your advice and read the prequel first, then devoured the other 3 I could find I loved it, thank you and everyone who mentioned it.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Hey sorry to bother you guys, but I'm trying to find my father a book for his birthday/Christmas.

He's a giant old nerd and we read vaguely the same genres of nerd books so the pseudo-tradition is he hands everyone else in the family a list of actual books he wants, while I give him the gift of a new book/author he might like because I'm the only person who has a prayer of finding a new book he'd actually enjoy.

And this year I am just completely stumped because I haven't been reading as much as I'd like due to life fuckery, so I thought maybe you could help me bounce some ideas off? We're both big ol' Charlie Stross fans and have been reading his stuff since A Colder War was just a blog post, so he's current on that. Harry Connely's 20 Palaces stuff is likewise something he's current on. He did enjoy The Kaiju Preservation Society and likes Scalzi in general.

He absolutely despises Harry Dresden. We both liked the first book but once the noir pastiche got set aside for exploring the larger world, he was just over that poo poo. He kind of dislikes series in general unless they have good short game ; lots of "o we'll wrap up this story in the next book" gets him to shut down right quick.

Basically, he likes nerd books in general but he's 1) got moderately high standards (and these are gifts so I want them to be good) while also 2) he reads this genre too so I need to find something he hasn't found himself. He's an old, but he's also a math professor at a liberal arts college so he has the kind of politics you'd expect from someone who moves from Seattle to New York by way of Berkley, so anything with too much of a military bent will probably turn him off, but because of fascism and not like violence ; he's down to clown with sword fights and like Richard K. Morgan before he revealed his true TERFy form.

Any ideas? Sorry, I know this is vague and rambling ; I'm trying to summarize a moderately complicated man's entire tastes in books. Basically imagine you had a cool nerd dad who's been handing you foundational sci-fi and fantasy all your life and now you're trying to return the favor, keeping in mind he's also capable of using the internet and current with trends.

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006
Library at Mount Char is a standalone book as far as I can recall, and I enjoyed the bejesus out of it. I also finished Naomi Novik’s Scholomance trilogy recently and have recommended it to other fantasy readers. I went back and re-read both of these after finishing because they both have details that you can miss if you’re not paying attention.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Grundulum posted:

Library at Mount Char is a standalone book as far as I can recall, and I enjoyed the bejesus out of it. I also finished Naomi Novik’s Scholomance trilogy recently and have recommended it to other fantasy readers. I went back and re-read both of these after finishing because they both have details that you can miss if you’re not paying attention.

Mount Char we both read and thought was good but forgettable. However, Scholomance is new to me so I double-checked his kindle and he's never heard of Novik it seems. Was a little turned off when I read "magic school", but the summary seems much more engaging than that phrase would lead you to believe. Looks certainly good enough to try.

Thanks!

That's his birthday down. Christmas still to go if someone's got another idea. (By the way, everyone talks about the effect of December birthdays on the person born then, no one talks about how it's much harder on the ones looking for gifts. Both my parents are absolutely awful to shop for, actively try to prevent people from giving them gifts, and both of them were born in December.)

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Xiahou Dun posted:

Hey sorry to bother you guys, but I'm trying to find my father a book for his birthday/Christmas.

He's a giant old nerd and we read vaguely the same genres of nerd books so the pseudo-tradition is he hands everyone else in the family a list of actual books he wants, while I give him the gift of a new book/author he might like because I'm the only person who has a prayer of finding a new book he'd actually enjoy.

And this year I am just completely stumped because I haven't been reading as much as I'd like due to life fuckery, so I thought maybe you could help me bounce some ideas off? We're both big ol' Charlie Stross fans and have been reading his stuff since A Colder War was just a blog post, so he's current on that. Harry Connely's 20 Palaces stuff is likewise something he's current on. He did enjoy The Kaiju Preservation Society and likes Scalzi in general.

He absolutely despises Harry Dresden. We both liked the first book but once the noir pastiche got set aside for exploring the larger world, he was just over that poo poo. He kind of dislikes series in general unless they have good short game ; lots of "o we'll wrap up this story in the next book" gets him to shut down right quick.

Basically, he likes nerd books in general but he's 1) got moderately high standards (and these are gifts so I want them to be good) while also 2) he reads this genre too so I need to find something he hasn't found himself. He's an old, but he's also a math professor at a liberal arts college so he has the kind of politics you'd expect from someone who moves from Seattle to New York by way of Berkley, so anything with too much of a military bent will probably turn him off, but because of fascism and not like violence ; he's down to clown with sword fights and like Richard K. Morgan before he revealed his true TERFy form.

Any ideas? Sorry, I know this is vague and rambling ; I'm trying to summarize a moderately complicated man's entire tastes in books. Basically imagine you had a cool nerd dad who's been handing you foundational sci-fi and fantasy all your life and now you're trying to return the favor, keeping in mind he's also capable of using the internet and current with trends.

Library at Mount Char is very good, as mentioned above.

Other suggestions:

The Rook remains my favorite modern urban fantasy book, and it's frankly not even close. There are two sequels, but all three books are entirely standalone. The first book is far and away the best. The other two are merely very good.

The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August doesn't have magic, but is instead the story of a man who re-lives his life over and over and over again. He slowly discovers there are others like him, and not all of them are good people. I love this book and hate everything else the author has written.

The Haunted Mesa was written by none other than Louis L'Amour in the mid 80s. It's a very different take on "magic in the real world," and is centered around a lonely mesa and the nearby town in the America Southwest. I enjoy the hell out of this book. It's got a few genuinely creepy scenes, and captures a lonely and otherworldly vibe I have rarely encountered in written works. The book's politics and outlook are old fashioned rather than problematic by today's standards, so it still holds up.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

ConfusedUs posted:

Library at Mount Char is very good, as mentioned above.


The Haunted Mesa was written by none other than Louis L'Amour in the mid 80s. It's a very different take on "magic in the real world," and is centered around a lonely mesa and the nearby town in the America Southwest. I enjoy the hell out of this book. It's got a few genuinely creepy scenes, and captures a lonely and otherworldly vibe I have rarely encountered in written works. The book's politics and outlook are old fashioned rather than problematic by today's standards, so it still holds up.

These are both great suggestions. I first read Haunted Mesa back in the 80's and went out and bought a hardback a few years ago and re-read it and it holds up.

The other genuinely good new fantasy novel written in the past few years is Between Two Fires by Buehlmann. It's historical fantasy set during the 100 years war. Dads love that poo poo, right?

Has he read any Tim Powers? If not, then Declare and Last Call are both worth looking at.

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Dec 6, 2022

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Dude loves Tim Powers. He woke me up to translate the French in On Stranger Tides when I lived in Taiwan because it was apparently that important.

He bounced off of Between Two Fires when he borrowed my copy. He's horror tolerant but not a horror fan, if that makes sense. John Langan's The Fisherman is probably the most capital-h Horror he's read at a sitting, and that was because it took place in our home region so we went on a nice little hike finding the river where the fish monsters come out of and stuff. He's always made fun of my "spooky books".

The Rook he enjoyed, but I don't think he's had any great desire to follow up with O'Malley. Or at least he hasn't mentioned any.

Catherine Webb (Fifteen Lives, under a pseudonym) is a favorite of his already. I don't think I'm gonna break any ground there. But that did remind me that he really loved The 7 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle if that helps. If nothing else maybe someone reading this post hasn't heard of it, and it's a great little locked-room mystery with a cute sci-fi twist, even if the reveal on that twist could've been improved.

If I tried to hand him anything by Louis L' Amour he would throw it at my head, by which I mean be vocally appreciative but secretly judge the poo poo me and his failures as a parent. He has some Opinions about L' Amour.

I hope this doesn't sound dismissive ; I love the suggestions and appreciate them immensely. The dude is legit very hard to shop for though. You've got the broad strokes of his taste down, now you've joined me in the real problem which is that he's been cranking through 2+ nerd books a week for 60 years.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
ok, has he read Patrick O'Brian

if not, tell him it's time to start

Buehlmann's other fantasy book is also good but it's very "this is my D&D campaign as a book" which is also more accessible

Lies of Locke Lamora? Night in the Lonesome October?


Right now my vote is Haunted Mesa anyway and say it's a prank gift

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Dec 6, 2022

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Has he read any Stephen Brust?

The Vlad Taltos series (starting with Jhereg) is tonally pretty similar to the Dresden Files. The action is of similar quality, but the characters are ten times better. Brust gives the main character consequences for being a total shitheel that lead to true character growth. They're pretty swords-and-spells magic, though.

If he likes the world of the Taltos books and has any interest in actual capital-L Literature, the companion series that starts with The Phoenix Guards is an absolutely spot-on pastiche/satire of Dumas. I re-read them every few years when I'm in the mood for delightfully flowery language.

Brust's To Reign In Hell is in a completely different genre, and it's my favorite depiction of the events leading up to the Fall of Satan. It's got an intro by Zelazny (of Lord of Light fame) who says something like "I thought there's no way he could pull this off, and then he did."

On the far other end of this, has he read any of the Craft Sequence? The first book is my favorite book about magic laywers.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Right now my vote is Haunted Mesa anyway and say it's a prank gift

DO IT

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Xiahou Dun posted:

Dude loves Tim Powers. He woke me up to translate the French in On Stranger Tides when I lived in Taiwan because it was apparently that important.

He bounced off of Between Two Fires when he borrowed my copy. He's horror tolerant but not a horror fan, if that makes sense. John Langan's The Fisherman is probably the most capital-h Horror he's read at a sitting, and that was because it took place in our home region so we went on a nice little hike finding the river where the fish monsters come out of and stuff. He's always made fun of my "spooky books".

The Rook he enjoyed, but I don't think he's had any great desire to follow up with O'Malley. Or at least he hasn't mentioned any.

Catherine Webb (Fifteen Lives, under a pseudonym) is a favorite of his already. I don't think I'm gonna break any ground there. But that did remind me that he really loved The 7 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle if that helps. If nothing else maybe someone reading this post hasn't heard of it, and it's a great little locked-room mystery with a cute sci-fi twist, even if the reveal on that twist could've been improved.

If I tried to hand him anything by Louis L' Amour he would throw it at my head, by which I mean be vocally appreciative but secretly judge the poo poo me and his failures as a parent. He has some Opinions about L' Amour.

I hope this doesn't sound dismissive ; I love the suggestions and appreciate them immensely. The dude is legit very hard to shop for though. You've got the broad strokes of his taste down, now you've joined me in the real problem which is that he's been cranking through 2+ nerd books a week for 60 years.

Maybe American Elsewhere by Robert Jackson Bennett?

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Xiahou Dun posted:

Hey sorry to bother you guys, but I'm trying to find my father a book for his birthday/Christmas.

He's a giant old nerd and we read vaguely the same genres of nerd books so the pseudo-tradition is he hands everyone else in the family a list of actual books he wants, while I give him the gift of a new book/author he might like because I'm the only person who has a prayer of finding a new book he'd actually enjoy.

And this year I am just completely stumped because I haven't been reading as much as I'd like due to life fuckery, so I thought maybe you could help me bounce some ideas off? We're both big ol' Charlie Stross fans and have been reading his stuff since A Colder War was just a blog post, so he's current on that. Harry Connely's 20 Palaces stuff is likewise something he's current on. He did enjoy The Kaiju Preservation Society and likes Scalzi in general.

He absolutely despises Harry Dresden. We both liked the first book but once the noir pastiche got set aside for exploring the larger world, he was just over that poo poo. He kind of dislikes series in general unless they have good short game ; lots of "o we'll wrap up this story in the next book" gets him to shut down right quick.

Basically, he likes nerd books in general but he's 1) got moderately high standards (and these are gifts so I want them to be good) while also 2) he reads this genre too so I need to find something he hasn't found himself. He's an old, but he's also a math professor at a liberal arts college so he has the kind of politics you'd expect from someone who moves from Seattle to New York by way of Berkley, so anything with too much of a military bent will probably turn him off, but because of fascism and not like violence ; he's down to clown with sword fights and like Richard K. Morgan before he revealed his true TERFy form.

Any ideas? Sorry, I know this is vague and rambling ; I'm trying to summarize a moderately complicated man's entire tastes in books. Basically imagine you had a cool nerd dad who's been handing you foundational sci-fi and fantasy all your life and now you're trying to return the favor, keeping in mind he's also capable of using the internet and current with trends.

He may have already read it, but Glenn Cook has an old urban fantasy series called the Garrett Files that might fit the bill. It's a bit of an inversion of the usual Urban Fantasy in that the main character is a normal human PI in a fantasy world. It borrows a lot from the Nero Wolfe mysteries with a heavy set smart person sending Garrett around as the dumbish muscle. It doesn't have an overarching arc, and each novel is a stand alone mystery. Lots of recurring characters and the odd thing mentioned in one novel will become a B-plot later, but no big bad waiting at the end of the series.

It is heavily noir influenced written the 80's. So the sexism is there, and there is a fair amount of "and she had legs that went all of the way up" kind of writing. Cook is better at writing female characters than Butcher though so it feels a bit better. He's the same person who wrote the Black Company series, but the Garrett books are much less bleak but still anti-war.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Thomamelas posted:

He may have already read it, but Glenn Cook has an old urban fantasy series called the Garrett Files that might fit the bill. It's a bit of an inversion of the usual Urban Fantasy in that the main character is a normal human PI in a fantasy world. It borrows a lot from the Nero Wolfe mysteries with a heavy set smart person sending Garrett around as the dumbish muscle. It doesn't have an overarching arc, and each novel is a stand alone mystery. Lots of recurring characters and the odd thing mentioned in one novel will become a B-plot later, but no big bad waiting at the end of the series.

It is heavily noir influenced written the 80's. So the sexism is there, and there is a fair amount of "and she had legs that went all of the way up" kind of writing. Cook is better at writing female characters than Butcher though so it feels a bit better. He's the same person who wrote the Black Company series, but the Garrett books are much less bleak but still anti-war.

This is a good rec but the problem with the Garrett Files is that they just make me want to read Nero Wolfe and Wolfe is better.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Xiahou Dun posted:

But that did remind me that he really loved The 7 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle if that helps. If nothing else maybe someone reading this post hasn't heard of it, and it's a great little locked-room mystery with a cute sci-fi twist, even if the reveal on that twist could've been improved.
The author of 7 1/2 Deaths recently wrote another book, The Devil and the Dark Water. It's a historical mystery set on a merchant ship and it has fantasy/horror overtones; I enjoyed it a lot.

Note (massive spoiler, don't read this if you plan on reading the book): there's zero magic or demons involved, it's just all very contrived.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



O’Brien’s my stuff so he’s read some but he’s not super into historicals. He’s fine with them but learning a bunch of sailboat facts isn’t a draw. Unlike weird space ship stuff which he’ll read loads of so long as it’s accurate and he recreationally got a physics degree, so high bar.

Brust he likes some stuff but lacks the rigor he enjoys. He likes science fantasy but you can’t muck about with internal consistency.

Garret Files is a good call but older stuff I need to check his office to see if he already read it. If it’s older than 10 years and not a classic it goes to the Math Department Lending Library a.k.a. a bunch of bookshelves he stole and set up in just an unused room. He’s a little more tolerant of sexism than me because old, but the first Dresden Files is getting up there for him. I’ll try to concoct a scheme to get in there this week.

Really I think he just wants to play Unknown Armies but is wary of RPGs. Dude can play all of Gloomhaven but just refuses to take the plunge and pretend to be an elf. And he’d smell a tie-in book from space.

There are multiple on-going sequences of joke presents in the family, one specifically targeting him* so I’m hesitant to add more.

*He likes having calendars around and needs 3-4 a year for various tasks so he always gets at least one joke calendar too. Sexy X where X is increasingly specific professions are common, e.g. my sister found a Sexy Waste Treatment Engineer of the Month calendar that was clearly not for mass market sale but just a thing some dudes made.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

This is a good rec but the problem with the Garrett Files is that they just make me want to read Nero Wolfe and Wolfe is better.

This is true. But sometimes you run out of Wolfe and need a break with re-reading them.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Xiahou Dun posted:


Garret Files is a good call but older stuff I need to check his office to see if he already read it. If it’s older than 10 years and not a classic it goes to the Math Department Lending Library a.k.a. a bunch of bookshelves he stole and set up in just an unused room. He’s a little more tolerant of sexism than me because old, but the first Dresden Files is getting up there for him. I’ll try to concoct a scheme to get in there this week.


The sexism in the Garrett files is more the kind of sexism you expect with noir. Dames, every client is super hot, Garrett is easily distracted by a pair of breasts kind of thing. And it almost always leads to Garrett getting an rear end beating for being a sexist idiot. So it feels more authentic to noir than the sexism in Dresden which is more Butcher trying to copy that kind of noir feel but being an rear end and not really having the skill. But it is a series written in the 80's so I just want to give a heads up it's there.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Thomamelas posted:

The sexism in the Garrett files is more the kind of sexism you expect with noir. Dames, every client is super hot, Garrett is easily distracted by a pair of breasts kind of thing. And it almost always leads to Garrett getting an rear end beating for being a sexist idiot. So it feels more authentic to noir than the sexism in Dresden which is more Butcher trying to copy that kind of noir feel but being an rear end and not really having the skill. But it is a series written in the 80's so I just want to give a heads up it's there.

Word up. Thanks. It’s the current lead of the pack, but it’s still shaking out so we’ll see.

Also what up, nerd, didn’t know you came by this way too. Good to see you.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Xiahou Dun posted:

There are multiple on-going sequences of joke presents in the family, one specifically targeting him* so I’m hesitant to add more.

*He likes having calendars around and needs 3-4 a year for various tasks so he always gets at least one joke calendar too. Sexy X where X is increasingly specific professions are common, e.g. my sister found a Sexy Waste Treatment Engineer of the Month calendar that was clearly not for mass market sale but just a thing some dudes made.

Your family rules.

If he hasn't discovered Effin' Birds yet, I highly recommend the coffee table book and/or the calendar.

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

Xiahou Dun posted:

O’Brien’s my stuff so he’s read some but he’s not super into historicals. He’s fine with them but learning a bunch of sailboat facts isn’t a draw. Unlike weird space ship stuff which he’ll read loads of so long as it’s accurate and he recreationally got a physics degree, so high bar.


Has he read any Alastair Reynolds? It’s not urban fantasy, but he’s a former European space agency astrophysicist who writes hard sci fi for space nerds.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



You folks are cool and good and helpful, by the way. I asked a vague question and you'd think the bat signal went up. Very appreciated.

anilEhilated posted:

The author of 7 1/2 Deaths recently wrote another book, The Devil and the Dark Water. It's a historical mystery set on a merchant ship and it has fantasy/horror overtones; I enjoyed it a lot.

Note (massive spoiler, don't read this if you plan on reading the book): there's zero magic or demons involved, it's just all very contrived.

Didn't want you to get ignored. While that spoiler is gonna be a deal-breaker for him, it ain't for me so I'm excited to hear it's good. I really loved 7 1/2 and my only problems were with the ending, so that's good news as far as I'm concerned. Spoiler for that book : it would have been so much better if they'd kept the framing sci-fi thing vaguer. That part sucked and was so much less well thought through than the rest of the book. Like if the dude had taken off the plague doctor outfit and it was literally just the Matt Smith-era The Doctor it would've been less silly. Then it gets back to the actual story and it's much better again but gently caress that reveal ugh. Didn't ruin the book but it was really the one bad bite in an otherwise perfect meal.

Definitely checking out The Devil and the Dark Water over the holidays for myself. Thanks!


ConfusedUs posted:

Your family rules.

If he hasn't discovered Effin' Birds yet, I highly recommend the coffee table book and/or the calendar.

They're a bunch of chill dorks who just want to get poo poo-faced, play boardgames and cook/eat tasty food in the woods. It's a good loving time. We do the whole 12 Days of Christmas but we're all atheists so it's just family and fun instead of Jesus. Good times, would recommend.

Also good call on Effin' Birds, although once again we've beaten you to it. Those calendars are in the hopper for his actual ones that he keeps cause he likes them, instead of the ones he puts in a free pile and never knows what happens to them. (Who the hell wants those calendars is a frequent topic of discussion because they never stay in the free pile for more than an hour or two, and it's been going on for at least 10 years now. Someone at that department likes them some man candy and is willing to go with some niche directions to get it.)


xsf421 posted:

Has he read any Alastair Reynolds? It’s not urban fantasy, but he’s a former European space agency astrophysicist who writes hard sci fi for space nerds.

Personal favorite of his, arguably even more than how much he loves Ian M. Banks.

If you have others, feel free to toss 'em my way up until you think it's clogging the thread or something. I didn't check the sci-fi thread because he likes his sci-fi diamond hard and it's beyond me. My physics knowledge stops at the undergraduate level because I'm a disappointment and went into non-STEM sciences. Peter Watts is the high bar for crunchy sci fi I'll still read for fun.

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

Xiahou Dun posted:

Dude loves Tim Powers. He woke me up to translate the French in On Stranger Tides when I lived in Taiwan because it was apparently that important.

He bounced off of Between Two Fires when he borrowed my copy. He's horror tolerant but not a horror fan, if that makes sense. John Langan's The Fisherman is probably the most capital-h Horror he's read at a sitting, and that was because it took place in our home region so we went on a nice little hike finding the river where the fish monsters come out of and stuff. He's always made fun of my "spooky books".

The Rook he enjoyed, but I don't think he's had any great desire to follow up with O'Malley. Or at least he hasn't mentioned any.

Catherine Webb (Fifteen Lives, under a pseudonym) is a favorite of his already. I don't think I'm gonna break any ground there. But that did remind me that he really loved The 7 1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle if that helps. If nothing else maybe someone reading this post hasn't heard of it, and it's a great little locked-room mystery with a cute sci-fi twist, even if the reveal on that twist could've been improved.

If I tried to hand him anything by Louis L' Amour he would throw it at my head, by which I mean be vocally appreciative but secretly judge the poo poo me and his failures as a parent. He has some Opinions about L' Amour.

I hope this doesn't sound dismissive ; I love the suggestions and appreciate them immensely. The dude is legit very hard to shop for though. You've got the broad strokes of his taste down, now you've joined me in the real problem which is that he's been cranking through 2+ nerd books a week for 60 years.

The Matthew Swift novels. Not available in audible, but Kindle versions. True "urban" fantasy.

Edit: did anyone suggest the Ben Aaronovitch books?

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Xiahou Dun posted:

Word up. Thanks. It’s the current lead of the pack, but it’s still shaking out so we’ll see.

Also what up, nerd, didn’t know you came by this way too. Good to see you.

Here I lurk more. And maybe Lois McMaster Bujold's stuff might work. Her Vorkosigan is a series but it's written out of chronological order. And it is military sci-fi. But it's not the Weber/Drake/Flint "here are 30 pages of very detailed specs on this weapon system" it's more military sci-fi mixed with a regency comedy of manners. The books are a lot of fun and the politics shouldn't give him any heartburn.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

torgeaux posted:

The Matthew Swift novels. Not available in audible, but Kindle versions. True "urban" fantasy.

Edit: did anyone suggest the Ben Aaronovitch books?

Matthew Swift is really good and so were the Magicals Anonymous follow-ups.

Doc Sidhe is really good as well.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Everyone posted:


Doc Sidhe is really good as well.

That loving cover lol.

Also I know by just sight that the title is not going to get pronounced like the actual Irish.

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

Xiahou Dun posted:

That loving cover lol.

Also I know by just sight that the title is not going to get pronounced like the actual Irish.
If I recall correctly, it's pronounced "shee" - no idea if that's how the actual Irish would say it. I had completely forgotten this book but I do remember thinking it was pulpy fun. Sort of "if Doctor Strange was a steampunk elf" vibes.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



wheatpuppy posted:

If I recall correctly, it's pronounced "shee" - no idea if that's how the actual Irish would say it. I had completely forgotten this book but I do remember thinking it was pulpy fun. Sort of "if Doctor Strange was a steampunk elf" vibes.

O huh. That’d be about right.

gently caress me to hell, someone pronounced an Irish spelling.

Now let’s just get them to say “geas” correctly. imagine Sean Connery saying “guess”

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Xiahou Dun posted:

That loving cover lol.

Also I know by just sight that the title is not going to get pronounced like the actual Irish.

Probably not. And there's a follow-up, Sidhe Devil.

wheatpuppy posted:

If I recall correctly, it's pronounced "shee" - no idea if that's how the actual Irish would say it. I had completely forgotten this book but I do remember thinking it was pulpy fun. Sort of "if Doctor Strange was a steampunk elf" vibes.

More Doc Samson than Doctor Strange, but yeah, pretty much. It's a really fun pulp 20s-30s couple of books

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
It's not quite urban fantasy but it's quite good - Nod by Adrian Barnes. Kind of a bit sciency horror?

Only suggesting it because a teacher friend of mine really liked it.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Sloth Life posted:

It's not quite urban fantasy but it's quite good - Nod by Adrian Barnes. Kind of a bit sciency horror?

Only suggesting it because a teacher friend of mine really liked it.

Well gently caress.

I have no idea if he'll like tthat, but I know I sure as poo poo will. Just bought it for myself. We're book communists so if he wants to read it he'll just steal mine, like so many others before.

loving hell, my person, that seems like a mighty fine book you just told me about.

Also I'm sufficiently confident that I got him covered I hand-me-downed some suggestions to my sisters. So like, the emergency is behind us now but the dude's (hopefully) gonna keep having birthdays and Christmases* and that's close enough to my wheelhouse that I ain't gonna say no.

Thanks again!



*Typing that made me really sad. :smith:

Calidus
Oct 31, 2011

Stand back I'm going to try science!
Is Butcher’s kid’s book any good?

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Calidus posted:

Is Butcher’s kid’s book any good?

Not read it myself but there's some talk about it a page or two back.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Xiahou Dun posted:

Now let’s just get them to say “geas” correctly

...I know this because of a Piers Anthony novel.

In my defense, I was 13.

*still hides face in shame*

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anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

rndmnmbr posted:

...I know this because of a Piers Anthony novel.

In my defense, I was 13.

*still hides face in shame*
It's okay, you were his target audience.

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