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Private Speech posted:Well it has >3 times the resolution per eye, so relatively a lot. The lenses they use are theoretically co-developed with valve but can be a bit finnicky with focus so that's less clear. Hmm maybe it would be worth the upgrade then since I do a lot of sim stuff. Edit : well I just pulled the trigger. It’s not shipping till January lol MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Nov 30, 2022 |
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Nov 30, 2022 13:01
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MarcusSA posted:Hmm maybe it would be worth the upgrade then since I do a lot of sim stuff. Yeah I was finally going to pull the trigger one one until I saw the shipping date. No fun for the holidays.
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I have a friend who bought into VR with the Reverb G2 v1 and swears by it, though he integrated it with lighthouses and index controllers since he couldn't stand the Reverb's controller tracking (note the v1 was worse than the v2 about this by all accounts). It's a big reason why I almost pulled the trigger on the G2 earlier this month. The only reason I didn't is because my CV1 still functions and I probably wouldn't be able to tolerate bad controller tracking so I'd still have to cave and make a meta account when the new year rolls around. Which I really don't want to do, but none of the next gen non-Oculous hardware has materialized and I'm not blowing ~1k on old tech when my (even older) current tech still functions. If Beat Saber weren't the biggest single use case that I have for VR (with Valheim coming in second), I wouldn't care about tracking enough for it to matter. If I were playing vehicle games and/or slow-paced VR games, the G2 would be a steal at 300. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Nov 30, 2022 |
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Nov 30, 2022 16:41
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Anything to declare Lemming? Any secret you were holding up? :P
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Can you use a Reverb or similar not-good-hand-tracking sets alongside lighthouses and vive/index controllers for the best of both worlds? Obv. the headset won't get any benefit from the lighthouses, but the hand tracking will be much better.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Can you use a Reverb or similar not-good-hand-tracking sets alongside lighthouses and vive/index controllers for the best of both worlds? Obv. the headset won't get any benefit from the lighthouses, but the hand tracking will be much better. Yeah you can, that's the best option, if expensive. The headset tracking is actually fine, the controller tracking issue is something to do with the side cameras pointing down I think - more lost tracking than bad tracking. Also happens if you bring your hand very close to your chest or very high without looking at it; it still tries to use accelerometers but it's not very good. Basically it's a coverage issue mainly. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Nov 30, 2022 |
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Ah that's good to know, I still have my old VIVE hooked up, was considering the Index but it's been out a few years; just boxing up the headset but keeping the controllers & lighthouses in play would be no problem. Now, a Reverb in January or wait to see what Deckard brings..? 
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Turin Turambar posted:Anything to declare Lemming? Any secret you were holding up? They can't ignore him anymore. Bad look when unofficial games have higher review counts than official ones.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Can you use a Reverb or similar not-good-hand-tracking sets alongside lighthouses and vive/index controllers for the best of both worlds? Obv. the headset won't get any benefit from the lighthouses, but the hand tracking will be much better. Yes, if you would like to spend about $700. Two Lighthouses : $300 Two Controllers : $279 Two USB Dongles needed to receive input from the Controllers: $100 The HP Motion Controllers are fine. The idea that you can't use them for shooters is just wrong. They are sensitive to bad lighting conditions and will lose tracking if you hold them motionless outside the headset's tracking range (over your head or by your knees). The inertial tracking will compensate even if you move them outside this range, as long as they are in motion. Sure, a pair of Index controllers are better, but they're not $700 better.
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ChocNitty posted:Does upgrading to Windows 11 have an impact on PCVR? Yes. Stay the gently caress away from win 11 with VR currently. People can argue with me all they want. They are wrong. I loved 11, but there was just too many small fuckery things and they've been tweaking how process priority n poo poo works so its a mixed bag of dicks with VR.
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My old computer running a 1070 and Windows 10 did fine with VR, although the 1070 struggled at times. My new computer with a 3080 and Windows 11 does fine with VR also. I’m not sure how much the 3080 may be compensating for any Windows 11 shortcomings. So what I’m saying is, if you don’t have an actual basis for comparison, it’s fine. If you do have such a basis, who knows, maybe poster above me is right? But going in blind it’s fine.
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If you don’t have a compelling reason to upgrade to 11 then you shouldn’t probably upgrade just yet anyway.
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I will say I've noticed some weirdly inconsistent performance with W11, sometimes I'm rocking a solid 90fps and sometimes in the exact same game I'm at 70fps in the exact same situation. So I have no trouble believing there's weird priority fuckery going on.
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MarcusSA posted:If you don’t have a compelling reason to upgrade to 11 then you shouldn’t probably upgrade just yet anyway. This is the answer. If I wasn't doing VR, Win 11 was great. I had better general gaming performance on flat games and I don't dislike the new "theme" windows has going on. VR was the sole reason I went back to 10. I can't work in VR and have my poo poo randomly not working correctly. The process priority thing is just one part of it but like in general 11 was just fucky with VR. Sometimes everything would be absolutely fine, next time I boot steamvr who the hell knows. It was way worse on my oculus stuff. SteamVR at least was usable most of the time. While the oculus poo poo was honestly a total dice roll every boot.
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huh so it turns out the weird inconsistent performance, graphical glitching and other associated issues in SteamVR were entirely caused by its default-to-on supersampling, which I was apparently just supposed to know to find and turn off because the Oculus software also has default-to-on supersampling and the doubling up causes them to freak out. At least that's it working perfectly now after about 10 months of just assuming that this was normal.
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I had to upgrade to windows 11 because I got a 13600k, and while it's been great in most things there some stupid stuff with win 10. Most egregious it was that it turns every drive as a read only that only the active user/administrator can change or something that just hosed up any emulators and non citified programs that you are running. It might be why I can't seem to get VD and occulus killer working properly.
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I can't find the original effort post but in the next few days I'll have my (windows 11, RTX 3070, 13600k) machine up and ready to play all the steam games i bought. What is the path to getting this to play on my meta quest 2? Virtual desktop (settings to change ? Keymappings to load ? ) I am clutch on WiFi 6 , with plenty of signal. I have had PCVR working via my old janky computer so I know its basically connectable to PC in the house I just want the least amount of frustration
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Roundboy posted:I can't find the original effort post but in the next few days I'll have my (windows 11, RTX 3070, 13600k) machine up and ready to play all the steam games i bought. What is the path to getting this to play on my meta quest 2? Open Virtual Desktop, connect to PC, launch game in Steam. You shouldn't have to change any settings and the Quest should be detected as your headset and controllers even if you haven't got the Oculus launcher installed. Though in SteamVR's settings turn supersampling off and turn the per-eye resolution down to about 60% to more closely match the Quest's actual resolution.
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Roundboy posted:I can't find the original effort post but in the next few days I'll have my (windows 11, RTX 3070, 13600k) machine up and ready to play all the steam games i bought. What is the path to getting this to play on my meta quest 2? See my post a couple up from yours and disable supersampling in the SteamVR settings immediately lol, I'm on a Quest 2 and 3070 as well and it's solved every problem I was having
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:See my post a couple up from yours and disable supersampling in the SteamVR settings immediately lol, I'm on a Quest 2 and 3070 as well and it's solved every problem I was having oh jeez I see that I totally missed it, thanks! njsykora posted:Open Virtual Desktop, connect to PC, launch game in Steam. You shouldn't have to change any settings and the Quest should be detected as your headset and controllers even if you haven't got the Oculus launcher installed. Though in SteamVR's settings turn supersampling off and turn the per-eye resolution down to about 60% to more closely match the Quest's actual resolution. Short. Sweet. Saved. Thanks as well
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ughhhh posted:I had to upgrade to windows 11 because I got a 13600k, and while it's been great in most things there some stupid stuff with win 10. Windows 11 doesn't do any of that.
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Tupper made an (unofficial) guide to the best setup for VRChat (and that is best, with no regard to cost). He recommends Windows 11 due to its CPU scheduler. https://tupper.notion.site/The-Current-Best-PC-For-VRChat-0636cbf57062499e80f02554afda2be4
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I definitely didn't do any controlled comparison and I don't play a lot of VR so I'm not going to say my experience is worth as much as those who do it regularly, but I haven't noticed any meaningful difference between 10 and 11 as far as VR. My Vive still fails to wake the base stations half the time and my Quest 2 still sometimes just can't see the PC at all, both of which are just the same as they were on 10. Performance with a 3070 and 3900X is still good either way.
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MikusR posted:Windows 11 doesn't do any of that. Like in said, I don't know what it is, and I might be wrong about the cause. But I am having a hard time getting occulus killer to work atm so am just using VD to use steam VR from my quest 2. The only other gripe I have had so far is that I haven't found an option to place task manager in the right click menu, it only shows up when you right click the start button. Do people still utilize occulus tray tools or is there a better way to turn off occulus processes now? Are there some needed PC side applications that people suggest to use these days with occulus in airlink?
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Not related to VR issues but if you want to customise the Win11 interface I recommend installing Explorer Patcher (https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher). It lets you make things work the way they did in 10 or whatever combination you want - including square window corners, old start menu with tiles and the old taskbar, among other things. It's opensource and gets regularly updated too. e: It even has the win10 weather widget. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Dec 1, 2022 |
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Does anyone know the best place to get prescription VR inserts for the Index? Actually better question, should I even bother? The issue I have is that my eyes are bad and I have a strong prescription. This means the further away from the focal point of my glasses, the blurrier my vision gets. High refractive index lenses help, but that also just sorta replaces the blurriness with chromatic aberration. So if prescription inserts are just a comfort thing and won't actually improve my VR sight, ehhhhhhhh. Oh also random thing, now that I'm getting back into VR I really hate when you download a song you like in beatsaber, and oh whoops the mapper set the beats to the vocals, not the instruments. So annoying.
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BadMedic posted:Does anyone know the best place to get prescription VR inserts for the Index? For my astigmatism, having lens inserts made a HUGE difference, both in clarity and comfort (especially since I no longer need to wear my glasses in the headset). Very happy I pulled the trigger on that. I used WidmoVR, since they still shipped to Canada at the height of the pandemic, but I know other services are regularly recommended in this thread.
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Brownie posted:I used WidmoVR, since they still shipped to Canada at the height of the pandemic, but I know other services are regularly recommended in this thread.
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For people that liked the idea of Supernatural but hated the coaches they now have a "Focus Mode" option that completely disables coaches except warmup and cool down (and you can skip warmups and coooldowns altogether if you want too). I may selectively do it with certain coaches that are too fakey to me.
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Chin Strap posted:For people that liked the idea of Supernatural but hated the coaches they now have a "Focus Mode" option that completely disables coaches except warmup and cool down (and you can skip warmups and coooldowns altogether if you want too). u got a problem with me, athlete? also: some changes to VRchat. maybe we can make a goon group then again maybe thats the worst idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4p8KwXMuV8
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Turin Turambar posted:The loser of the month is Quest 2, and the winner... could that "other" be Pico Neo 4? I don’t see how when the Neo 2+3 both are on the list.
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njsykora posted:I don’t see how when the Neo 2+3 both are on the list. Well, Neo 4 is much more new? Usually Valve lags somewhat in adding new headsets.
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Chin Strap posted:For people that liked the idea of Supernatural but hated the coaches they now have a "Focus Mode" option that completely disables coaches except warmup and cool down (and you can skip warmups and coooldowns altogether if you want too). Oh nice! Yeah there's a few coaches that I'm not always in the mood for.
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Sounds like many indies are turning away from Meta, since it's not worth it supporting Quest and instead of helping, having them tell you to just get the same word of mouth as Gorilla Tag on AppLab. For us it's definitely just PSVR2 and PCVR from now on. At least we got on Humble Bundle, there's something: https://www.humblebundle.com/games/premier-vr
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Kharan posted:Sounds like many indies are turning away from Meta, since it's not worth it supporting Quest and instead of helping, having them tell you to just get the same word of mouth as Gorilla Tag on AppLab. How difficult was it to get on PSVR2? Did you have to prove prior sales levels or whatever to get access to dev kits? I'm working on a couple VR titles and I'm kinda interested. Also curious what the humble bundle process was like.
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