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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The extensions the Cards handed out for KKK remain mystifying I get Kyler. QB scarcity is real, and Kyler has had flashes of brilliance. I get Kiem. Kiem is a friend of the owner, and his reign has been the longest sustained success in possibly the history of the franchise. Kliff is a dead ringer for Matt Nagy.
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Forrest on Fire posted:I get Kiem. Kiem is a friend of the owner, and his reign has been the longest sustained success in possibly the history of the franchise. I had time to kill so I looked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arizona_Cardinals_seasons Keim's been GM since 2013. In that time they've had 4 double-digit winning seasons, an NFC Championship appearance, and 2 .500 seasons. The only other GM they've had who even compares to the heights Keim reached was the prior GM, Rod Graves, who was GM from 2003 to then and had only two years above .500 but made the Super Bowl one of those years. Post-merger, no other GM even got them past the first round of playoffs before Rod. So. Yeah. Understandable why the leash is longer for them As for HCs, the worst Cards' season ever is 3 wins/13 losses. Happened twice, once in 2000 and once during the Keim era in 2018 (Steve Wilks' only year coaching the team). With the Pats, Broncos, Bucs, Falcons and Niners left on the schedule, they can still very much tie the most losses they've ever had by losing out. Both times they've had that 13-loss season, the coach that started week 1 wasn't employed there the following year (Wilks was given the whole year and Vince Tobin was gone mid-season) TL;DR Russell Wilson is Kliff's last chance at having some hope for staying
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The extensions the Cards handed out for KKK remain mystifying Someone asked Bill Bidwell if he wanted to bring back KKK and he jumped at it.
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fsif posted:No because Kyler is still a starting caliber, 25-year-old quarterback. Kyler is starting caliber for fanty football, but not actual football.
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Chris James 2 posted:TL;DR Russell Wilson is Kliff's last chance at having some hope for staying 
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Chris James 2 posted:TL;DR Russell Wilson is Kliff's last chance at having some hope for staying To be fair, if you had to pick one QB to save your job against right now, Russ is your man. Kliff is coming back, baby 
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MrLogan posted:Kyler is starting caliber for fanty football, but not actual football. This take is dumb, starting caliber means top 20? Top 32? Kyler isn't top 5 but arguing he's not top 20 is bad faith.
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Forrest on Fire posted:arguing he's not top 20 is bad faith. You're arguing with a guy who thinks Carr should be league MVP every year and keeps a separate win count based on games stolen by the refs.
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Forrest on Fire posted:This take is dumb, starting caliber means top 20? Top 32? Kyler isn't top 5 but arguing he's not top 20 is bad faith. Going to say the guy who thinks the Raiders are really 9-2 right now isn't arguing in good faith.
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Forrest on Fire posted:This take is dumb, starting caliber means top 20? Top 32? Kyler isn't top 5 but arguing he's not top 20 is bad faith. Ok, if you want to say he's top 20, then I'll believe you. But Kyler is much closer to Danny Jones than he is to Patrick Mahomes. Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:You're arguing with a guy who thinks Carr should be league MVP every year and keeps a separate win count based on games stolen by the refs. He should have been league MVP two years in his career so far.
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MrLogan posted:Last year and 2016. Lol Carr in 2016 was 14th in yards, 8th in TDs, 15th in completion percentage, and 8th in passer rating. He got 6 MVP votes, which feels fair, and finished tied for third with rookie Zeke.
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fartknocker posted:Lol Carr in 2016 was 14th in yards, 8th in TDs, 15th in completion percentage, and 8th in passer rating. He got 6 MVP votes, which feels fair, and finished tied for third with rookie Zeke. the refs stole his yards
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fartknocker posted:Lol Carr in 2016 was 14th in yards, 8th in TDs, 15th in completion percentage, and 8th in passer rating. He got 6 MVP votes, which feels fair, and finished tied for third with rookie Zeke. Screwed by pro Dallas bias.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:the refs stole his yards Mr. Logan’s Raiders math is almost as bad/insane as Kawalimus’ Ravens math with virtual ties.
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Can't believe the refs paid off Trent Cole to break Carr's leg right before the playoffs started
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FizFashizzle posted:gently caress the Cowboys 
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I agree that Carr is vastly underrated, but I don't think he has an actual mvp candidate yet. I will agree he's better than Kyler.
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Hot take: Carr is bad and also not good
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Carr is definitely a QB in the NFL
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a neat cape posted:Carr is definitely a QB in the NFL I call BS on this.
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BlindSite posted:I agree that Carr is vastly underrated, but I don't think he has an actual mvp candidate yet. I dunno about vastly. He seems about Kirk Cousins tier which is where you look at all the guys ahead of him and wish you had better but then look at the doofuses behind him and just don't want to cut bait and risk you end up with those. He's not bad but the rest of the roster would need to be amazing to make a deep playoff run.
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a neat cape posted:Carr is definitely a QB in the NFL Are we sure I'll need a new list to believe that
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MrLogan posted:Last year and 2016. What's wrong with your brain?
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Crescent Wrench posted:What's wrong with your brain? he's been stricken with terminal Gimmickposteritis rip ParmesanBasil
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Carr's good enough that I wouldn't complain about having him, especially with how he's looked considering who's been coaching him so far. He's top 15 for sure, maybe even top 10. Too bad he pissed off the refs so much that they go out of their way to screw him over.
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Which over 30 QB would you rather have for the next 2 seasons (plus the rest of this one), Carr or Geno Smith? And are they the two best QBs over 30?
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Penisaurus Sex posted:Which over 30 QB would you rather have for the next 2 seasons (plus the rest of this one), Carr or Geno Smith? Jimmy G e: Tannehill is probably better than both Carr and Geno too
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I'd say Tannehill = Carr > Geno, but that's mainly because I want to see more than one season of Geno, plus he's kinda had more bad moments the past several weeks. As a Titans fan though I'm happy with Tannehill (besides how he sucks in the playoffs) and wouldn't mind Carr if we had him.
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Mega64 posted:I'd say Tannehill = Carr > Geno, but that's mainly because I want to see more than one season of Geno, plus he's kinda had more bad moments the past several weeks. Yeah Geno needs to do more than look ok for 2/3rds of one season
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^i think it’s fair to say Geno is playing better than “ok” Geno is playing unbelievably great ball relative to expectations but I need to see at least one full season of it before I’d take him over Tannehill or Carr. E:fb lol
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Ornery and Hornery posted:^i think it’s fair to say Geno is playing better than “ok” Would really appreciate Geno busting out a couple of 5 TD games over the next couple of weeks so I can crow about "NFC BEST QB" again.
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How far Seattle is overperforming expectations is wild. Their preseason win total was set at 5.5 on the book I just looked at and I thought they would easily go under. Instead they could very reasonably finish with 10. And you have to give a ton of the credit to Geno, he’s been legit great. Makes you wonder what else Pete was right about 
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^yeah it’s nuts how they’ve exceeded the win total already. Seattle’s rookie class has exceeded expectations to a comical level. Basically every pick from the first round through the fifth has been an immediately “good” player. Not just “good for a rookie”, but legitimately good. Geno has exceeded expectations to a comical level. Seattle has been relatively healthy. Seattle has had a trash fire strength of schedule. …with that said it took multiple goal line fumbles beat Denver and seattle has lost to some pretty bad teams too… What a wild ride, mr Carroll.
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