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Blut posted:
Not defending Belgium but these maps skew toward reports. In some countries it's not worth it to report a robbery. In some more countries still, it's the cops who rob you.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:52 |
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Count Roland posted:Sweden being such an outlier is also interesting. Sweden's had a pretty awful last 15 years for crime increases: They're not doing well absorbing/integrating their recent immigrant wave at all: quote:This study conducted by Göran Adamson and Tino Sanandaji is the first purely descriptive scientific investigation on the matter in fifteen years. The investigation (from 2002 to 2017) covers seven distinct categories of crime, and distinguishes between seven regions of origin. Based on 33 per cent of the population (2017), 58 per cent of those suspect for total crime on reasonable grounds are migrants. Regarding murder, manslaughter and attempted murder, the figures are 73 per cent, while the proportion of robbery is 70 per cent. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-019-00436-8
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 20:03 |
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https://twitter.com/ritardatario1/status/1594359451779493888 Also more English subway map talk.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 20:19 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:https://twitter.com/ritardatario1/status/1594359451779493888 The one in northern Denmark is a big artillery battery and underground bunker complex the Germans built in WW2 so they could shoot anything entering the Baltic. In practice it became a place that well connected Germans could have their sons sent to get as far away from the action as possible. It's now a museum. I'm guessing the dot directly across from it in Norway is its twin base. Does that count as a castle?
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 04:13 |
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I've fought this internet argument before, a castle is just a fort
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 06:26 |
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Specifically a castle is supposed to be a fort that is also a primary residence.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 06:28 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:The one in northern Denmark is a big artillery battery and underground bunker complex the Germans built in WW2 so they could shoot anything entering the Baltic. In practice it became a place that well connected Germans could have their sons sent to get as far away from the action as possible. It's now a museum. what happened with the gun?
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 08:23 |
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Blut posted:Sweden's had a pretty awful last 15 years for crime increases: Does the report make a difference between actual migrants and people who descend from immigrant families? Because I thought it was common sociological wisdom that immigrants themselves are actually less likely to commit crimes.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 18:12 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Specifically a castle is supposed to be a fort that is also a primary residence. Missile silos are forts for missiles. Ergo, missile silos that have been converted into residences are castles.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:48 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:https://twitter.com/ritardatario1/status/1594359451779493888 I expected Britain to have a lot more castles
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:53 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I expected Britain to have a lot more castles England had subjugated Wales (not to mention itself) for the most part by the time our conception of masonry castles had come into vogue. You can see the concentration of castles in southern Scotland.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:56 |
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what's with galicia? it wasn't a major front in the reconquista compared to central and southern spain
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 20:08 |
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Defence against the Aztec invasion.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 20:27 |
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i say swears online posted:what's with galicia? it wasn't a major front in the reconquista compared to central and southern spain Santiago is a pretty important pilgrimage site, maybe church/religious order fortifications?
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 20:33 |
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Pope Hilarius II posted:Does the report make a difference between actual migrants and people who descend from immigrant families? Because I thought it was common sociological wisdom that immigrants themselves are actually less likely to commit crimes. Yes, the report only counts immigrants themselves, not descendants of such. The common sociological wisdom that immigrants themselves are actually less likely to commit crimes is highly dependent on the immigrants region of origin, their education level, and their age/sex. The data shows crime rates differ hugely between say South-East Asian immigrants vs Middle-Eastern origin ones, in Europe at least that I know of, for example. And also that undereducated, single, young men are far more likely to commit crimes than say family units with parental college degrees. The migrant wave to Sweden in recent years skewed much more heavily young, male and undereducated and from problematic regions than immigrants to Europe/the US have done historically on average which explains a lot of the subsequent integration problems. This is for Denmark but shows the disparity in crime committed by immigrants by region of origin, and compared to natives, well:
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 20:52 |
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Isn’t the data for that “castle” map quite bad (in the sense that you are expecting it represent some sort of fortress as opposed to a chateau or anything that happens to have an equivalent term)? I wouldn’t read too much into it.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 21:49 |
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King Hong Kong posted:Isn’t the data for that “castle” map quite bad (in the sense that you are expecting it represent some sort of fortress as opposed to a chateau or anything that happens to have an equivalent term)? I wouldn’t read too much into it. yeah i google mapped some places in galicia and lots are like two-storey stone buildings with a smaller sqft than my house i remember seeing a few in bavaria that were the size of closets
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 21:52 |
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Here's a much, much better interactive map for Spain that allows you to select by type (e.g. a castle vs. a tower) and era: https://www.elconfidencial.com/cultura/2021-10-13/castillos-conservacion-arquitectura-especial-datos_3303733/ See e.g.:
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 22:04 |
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i'd like to think those two yellow overlapping circles near burgos was the result of a century-long lawnmowing dispute
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 22:39 |
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The majority of castles were wood and didn't leave any ruins either.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 23:11 |
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The whole "immigrants do crimes" is at the core of the considerable Danish xenophobia espoused by all major politic parties and has been for over a decade at this point, so there's some scope to be sceptical. Hence e.g. the legislation mandating that people from immigrant neighbourhoods face higher criminal penalties (lol, lmao). NYTimes posted:For decades, integrating immigrants has posed a thorny challenge to the Danish model, intended to serve a small, homogeneous population. Leaders are focusing their ire on urban neighborhoods where immigrants, some of them placed there by the government, live in dense concentrations with high rates of unemployment and gang violence. map: Private Speech fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Dec 1, 2022 |
# ? Dec 1, 2022 01:25 |
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i assume good jobs with secure benefits are widely available for those communities and they just choose to Do Crimes of their own volition
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 01:27 |
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The "ghettos" also look pretty okay tbh.
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 02:24 |
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They look like the loving projects to me
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 04:31 |
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Natty Ninefingers posted:They look like the loving projects to me They look like cute little apartment buildings lol wtf Starks fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Dec 1, 2022 |
# ? Dec 1, 2022 04:42 |
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*sees mid rise apartment building with gardens and bicycle racks* is this a screencap from The Wire?
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 04:45 |
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Mid rise complexes, each a little island of concentrated poverty in a sea of grass? Little in the way of visible amenities, street life, defensible space, or connections to the greater city/town/whatever the heck? There’s more funding and upkeep but the visible issues are pretty similar.
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 05:50 |
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Natty Ninefingers posted:Mid rise complexes, each a little island of concentrated poverty in a sea of grass? Little in the way of visible amenities, street life, defensible space, or connections to the greater city/town/whatever the heck? making up some projects in my head to get mad at
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 05:53 |
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i don't see everything that's on my richard scarry blanket in that single pic and gettin' upset
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 05:54 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:what happened with the gun? Well there were 29 robberies, not 0
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 06:24 |
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Natty Ninefingers posted:Mid rise complexes, each a little island of concentrated poverty in a sea of grass? Little in the way of visible amenities, street life, defensible space, or connections to the greater city/town/whatever the heck? It's pretty well connected to the rest of the city. In any case it's a non-profit housing co-op managed democratically by the inhabitants themselves.
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 06:26 |
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Owling Howl posted:It's pretty well connected to the rest of the city. In any case it's a non-profit housing co-op managed democratically by the inhabitants themselves. It looks a lot better in actual complex, rather than the lovely sad google maps photo. Still smack bang on the wrong side of the tracks, of course
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 06:35 |
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Starks posted:*sees mid rise apartment building with gardens and bicycle racks* is this a screencap from The Wire? One of the bicycles has fallen over; chaos reigns and the end is nigh.
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 08:10 |
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Starks posted:They look like cute little apartment buildings lol wtf Looks like any residential block in any Scandinavian city. Buildings are nicer on the outside than where I lived in Trondheim, otherwise you could take a very similar picture there; those were mostly inhabited by single adults and younger couples, turn around 180 degrees and walk one block and you would find a sequence of shops, restaurants, a park etc. No telling from that picture what the rest of the neighbourhood looks like.
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 08:19 |
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i say swears online posted:i assume good jobs with secure benefits are widely available for those communities and they just choose to Do Crimes of their own volition The problem here is that we are talking about small countries, where well paying jobs need applicable education, language skills and of course the potential employee must not to stand out too much in the eyes of racist employers so the barriers of entry to job markets is high. And they are only becoming higher thanks to the economic situation in the EU. Combine that with the long ongoing project of slowly dismantling the welfare state and support structures, the situation for poor immigrants is very dire in the Nordics. Denmark has taken the most reactionary path in the Nordics while Sweden has traditionally been the most liberal. This has lead to situation where Sweden has taken in a huge population of immigrants in recent years and thanks to reasons stated above, they've failed in integration with crime rates exploding and especially violent gang crime becoming a huge issue (at least relative to Nordic baseline). I think that something like 1 800 000 people in Sweden are foreign born (out of population of 10 500 000, so 17%), but part of those are EU citizens so not as "problematic" in racists eyes. And now all the reactionaries are pointing at Sweden saying 'now you don't want to end up like them, do you?' and they have a pretty clear contrast between liberal policies and their own reactionary policies to use in their messaging. Situation is hosed up.
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 09:28 |
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i say swears online posted:i assume good jobs with secure benefits are widely available for those communities and they just choose to Do Crimes of their own volition
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 09:56 |
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It'd be interesting to see that broken down to smaller regions. Also, does it count non-permanent-residents (I guess not?)
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 10:00 |
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Natty Ninefingers posted:They look like the loving projects to me Such a North American post, lol. Like 90% of people living in cities in Europe live in places that look exactly like that. Including non-immigrants. Europe in general has an absolute poo poo ton more graffiti than the US, so the very small amount of graffiti in that photo isn't really meaningful either. Saladman fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Dec 1, 2022 |
# ? Dec 1, 2022 10:34 |
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Once again Portugal is Eastern European
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 10:54 |
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Saladman posted:Such a North American post, lol. Like 90% of people living in cities in Europe live in places that look exactly like that. Including non-immigrants. Europe in general has an absolute poo poo ton more graffiti than the US, so the very small amount of graffiti in that photo isn't really meaningful either. I'm north American too and it looks like regular rear end apartments, that poster is just weird
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# ? Dec 1, 2022 11:07 |