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FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

Ups_rail posted:

I know your being flippant, but I also see my remarks come off as staining for kanye.

So I ll try to put a better point. Who are the leaders of the white nationalist/power/ supremeist/ american nazi movement? let alone a political party. For example if Kanye was a due paying member and office holder in say the green/liberaterian/ democratic socialist's of america I would view him more through the eyes of being part of a political group, and speaking for that group. Instead he speaking for himself.

If kanye was paling around with richard spencer or jared taylor talking about ethno states or race realism, instead like others have pointed out he s going from bible verse to saying shocking poo poo or the sake of being shocking gently caress he out shocked alex jones.

Basically Kanye was part of the KKK or ANP and was showing his membership card and speaking for, and rasing money for a political party then I yeah I wouldnt be calling him crazy.

the guy with him, here and everywhere else for the last month or so, nick fuentes, is the defacto leader of the modern american christian nationalist white supremacist fascist movement

Kanye is letting fuentes tweet through his phone and they're apparently spending all their time around each other

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1598401009579352064

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Political_Action_Conference


kanye's in as deep with the far right as you can possibly get at this point.

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Gresh
Jan 12, 2019


STABASS
Apr 18, 2009

Fun Shoe
c'mon guys, just because he said he's a nazi doesn't mean he's a nazi

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Oldsmobile posted:

I dunno, I bet he's less crazy than most people give him credit. He's basically just saying a lot of the stuff filthy rich Americans secretly think anyway and the only reson people think he's crazy is the fact that he's black.


i don't think that's why people think he's crazy dude

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
The one thing Hitler had going for him is that he killed Hitler.

But he also killed the guy who killed Hitler, so…

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Oldsmobile posted:

I dunno, I bet he's less crazy than most people give him credit. He's basically just saying a lot of the stuff filthy rich Americans secretly think anyway and the only reson people think he's crazy is the fact that he's black. Yet he doesn't seem to think that ought to slow him down.

lol what

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

FirstnameLastname posted:

the guy with him, here and everywhere else for the last month or so, nick fuentes, is the defacto leader of the modern american christian nationalist white supremacist fascist movement

Kanye is letting fuentes tweet through his phone and they're apparently spending all their time around each other

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1598401009579352064

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Political_Action_Conference


kanye's in as deep with the far right as you can possibly get at this point.

At one point you have to just say “the right”, because I don’t see any conservative leaders disavowing this “alt-right” trash

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Who is @ali

LordoftheScheisse
Jan 16, 2016
Really feeling vindicated that I never hopped on the Kanye West bandwagon. Going to sleep well tonight.

mcvey
Aug 31, 2006

go caps haha

*Washington Capitals #1 Fan On DeviantArt*

Blue Raider posted:

Who is @ali

Ali Alexander

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

I chuckle every time the camera cuts to Nick Fuentes. He always looks like the 14 year old who stole a 10 year old's skateboard, and then immediately wrecks and breaks his arm.

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012
https://twitter.com/SilverSoul164/status/1598395793710657536

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Endorph posted:

Kanye said hitler was responsible for the microphones he and jones were using and that he invented the highway

I know this is obviously wrong but I did some reading trying to uncover the moon logic that might have led to it and the closest I could find is that the Neumann bottle mic is apparently the first condenser mic in the world and was invented in Germany 1928. So hitler used one in all his rallies. Plus some online references to an NPR show talking about it that jokingly referred to that design as the "hitler bottle". So probably he was sitting around in a studio some day and someone picked up a Neumann and mentioned that and it got garbled into this.

Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020

Kanye listens to NPR? *Now* the right will disown him.

Fucking Moron
Jan 9, 2009

Blue Raider posted:

Who is @ali

Not this guy:



But this guy:

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

parthenocarpy posted:

Oh poo poo sorry that was me making up lines, I'll clarify

He would not wear an earpiece tho

The lines made me laugh, and it's worth poking around for the source material that inspired them outside of Infowars/waiting for someone to upload it to Youtube so I can download it before it gets deleted :)

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Chimp_On_Stilts posted:

Kanye is "paling around" with Nick Fuentes, leader of the Groypers, which wikipedia describes as:

I mean, he literally had dinner with Trump and Fuentes a few days ago. That was just exiting the news cycle when today's Alex Jones interview hit.

Yes and I ve said before nick fuentes a closeted catholic Mexican savior of the white race.

Spencer and Taylor gave us Charlottesville 2017 unite the right "ralley" that had a loving death toll.

What has nick fuentes done? Look for cum, and got caught watching transgender porn on his phone.

If Kanye was wearing a suit and talking about Henry fords book. And not wearing a mask doing a puppet show with a loving aquarium net, I d be worried.



Tarkus posted:

Like, I get that Ye has gone crazy and is spewing hateful rhetoric, but what about Hillary's emails? When are we going to talk about those?

Huh well that would be something stonetear could talk about not me

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

massive spider posted:

I know this is obviously wrong but I did some reading trying to uncover the moon logic that might have led to it and the closest I could find is that the Neumann bottle mic is apparently the first condenser mic in the world and was invented in Germany 1928. So hitler used one in all his rallies. Plus some online references to an NPR show talking about it that jokingly referred to that design as the "hitler bottle". So probably he was sitting around in a studio some day and someone picked up a Neumann and mentioned that and it got garbled into this.

Alternative theory

https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1598380158301671430

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019


Kanye West's interview with Alex Jones explicitly defending and praising Hitler and the Nazis easily surpasses Mel Gibson's career implosion in the mid 00s.

He doesn't even have a substance abuse defense to fall back on like Gibson did. Lol, whats his defense gonna be when he inevitably backtracks? That he was tricked and used by Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, and Milo?

neato burrito
Aug 25, 2002

bitch better have my chex mix

Did anyone say Death Con Ye yet?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

some said a few weeks ago during West's older meltdown is that mental problems arent your fault, but they are your responsibility.

also all the nameless yes men should be stuffed into the same box as West and dumped into the ocean.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

neato burrito posted:

Did anyone say Death Con Ye yet?
Zyklon Ye

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Gresh posted:

Kanye West's interview with Alex Jones explicitly defending and praising Hitler and the Nazis easily surpasses Mel Gibson's career implosion in the mid 00s.

He doesn't even have a substance abuse defense to fall back on like Gibson did. Lol, whats his defense gonna be when he inevitably backtracks? That he was tricked and used by Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, and Milo?

I think he cited deep pornography addiction as the sin God is punishing him for. God is responsible for everything that happened to Ye but the Jews are behind it, so I understand.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Guy talked poo poo about banging supermodels to two puppets representing one prime minister

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
netn couldn't get it with a supermodel

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

Blue Raider posted:

It’s too weird, there’s no narrative to be had here


it's all very intentional, the narrative is in the interplay between their claims. when they can make the debate become "I think it's the jews" vs "I don't think it's the jews, but there is a global illuminati of rootless cosmopolitans poisoning our society with immigration and liberalism" end result either way is that there's an enemy trying to destroy our society from within who must be eliminated by any means aaaand wink wink it's prolly the jews.

that way they either they push things further in that direction as a whole or they make the GOP policy appear 'moderate/centrist' enough for people to support again, buying them time to shift things further rightwards.

it's not a political narrative aimed towards getting votes/support or winning elections as much, the far right has recognized they can't seize or hold onto power though a legitimate democratic process anymore

it's about bringing extreme rightwing views to the forefront to shift the overton window to the right and provoking more stochastic terror

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

frankly the right cares more about the gays than the jews rn, kanye is behind the times

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Jews appeals more to the online right though at this point I don’t think Ye cared about any of that poo poo

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

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Ups_rail posted:

Yes and I ve said before nick fuentes a closeted catholic Mexican savior of the white race.

???

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

StrangersInTheNight posted:

netn couldn't get it with a supermodel

he could have in his IDF soldier days, woof

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1598402243266760705

ryde
Sep 9, 2011

God I love young girls
https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1598398957985464321?t=FRPrrHKzMjZu8XigLcj0jA&s=19

Its really funny to see right wing personalities try to put the toothpaste back in the tube, only to have it splurt back out all over them.

Basically this:

https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1598370994837667840

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
this eric andre interview went to some dark places

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Lol are people itt defending the Nazi?

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
https://twitter.com/parler_app/status/1598422341553364993

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

Ups_rail posted:

Yes and I ve said before nick fuentes a closeted catholic Mexican savior of the white race.

Spencer and Taylor gave us Charlottesville 2017 unite the right "ralley" that had a loving death toll.

What has nick fuentes done? Look for cum, and got caught watching transgender porn on his phone.

If Kanye was wearing a suit and talking about Henry fords book. And not wearing a mask doing a puppet show with a loving aquarium net, I d be worried.

fuentes def has deeply seated issues wrt his sexuality but that doesn't matter, what does is that he has a very motivated and loyal base of followers. he's the one elevating, coalescing and pushing the incel 4chan crowd into extremism more than anybody else. the colorado club shooter, most likely a fan of his the buffalo shooter absolutely was.

he's an extremely dangerous person and to see him as anything else is a mistake. he downplays how truly bout it he is except when he's speaking to his core audience, the dude wants the Turner diaries irl

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Now, this is funny.

Gomez Chamberlain
Mar 22, 2005

Subakh ul kuhar!

:hmbol:

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FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

Endorph posted:

frankly the right cares more about the gays than the jews rn, kanye is behind the times

the right cares about having an enemy

this isn't the republican party, these are hardcore fascists who reject democracy, think the wrong side won WW2, and want to overthrow the american government and install a christofascist autocracy

they do not care about the sphere of public opinion except for how they can manipulate it to help them on their way to seizing enough power to where they can ignore it.
they openly do not care about winning hearts and minds or votes. they care about radicalizing the base and creating/growing a nationwide domestic insurgency that can coerce and suppress its opposition through fear and violence

quote:

In March 2022, Fuentes stated that he is a reactionary who supports autocracy and called himself "a 12th century man", adding "Catholic autocracy? Pretty strong. Pretty strong record. Catholic monarchy? Catholic monarchy, and just war, and crusades, and inquisitions? Pretty good stuff." Fuentes also decried democracy, saying "You know what democracy has given us? Obesity. Low rates of literacy. It's given us divorce, abortion, gay marriage, liberalism, pornography. That's what democracy has given us. Ghettos and crime and political correctness. Diversity. Yeah, the track record of democracy? Not so good."

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