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Champion cleave with theoretically getting my hands on a starforge? Hm
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Dec 2, 2022 21:23
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External Organs posted:Elentor also ran Explosive Trap a few leagues ago iirc - wasn't it doing like...a billion damage? You mean her MineTrapper?
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Dec 2, 2022 21:26
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whypick1 posted:You mean her MineTrapper? That's the one!!
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Dec 2, 2022 21:28
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Stux posted:why doesntn it just say that instead of the name that doesnt mean anything lol totalnewbie posted:Because then the mod list would cover your screen and if you refuse to look things up, that's 100% on you, not on GGG. pork never goes bad posted:Fair enough. That's on you. I'm not saying that GGG couldn't do better (they could), but I am saying it's simply factually incorrect to say either that GGG hasn't told players (they have), or that "they've completely given up on the game itself ever telling you anything" (the new help system is, like, far and away better than it was before that - they clearly haven't given up). Being charitable, it's true that the game doesn't explicitly tell you all the details. Instead, the new AN system has mostly better graphical and visual identity for mod effects and skill abilities, has better colour coding of mod names so you know what damage type they do for basic mods and whether they're rare/rippy for the more complex ones, and in general makes it so rares are more visually readable in my experience. The game's help points you to the official forums for deeper mechanics - other than hosting the forums and wiki in game, I'm not sure how the game could communicate mod identity better while it keeps the sheer level of complexity which, ultimately, is what draws me personally to this game.   
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Dec 2, 2022 21:46
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v important info that i refuse to look up
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Semi-newb questions. I got into this a while ago (I forgot the name of the league but it was the one where you go deeper and deeper into the mine) and then lost interest with the next "Syndicate" league. Are there 8 million new league things that have all carried over I would need to learn? Also, my biggest issue was that it seemed really easy outside of random 1-shots. I would kill things easily and tank everything without my life barely ever moving. But occasionally some random mob would just instakill me from I-dont-know-what. I want to like the game but I found that aspect pretty unenjoyable. Basically I'd like more D3 style Greater Rifting type gameplay where I can push my character against stronger and stronger stuff without having to worry so much about instakills. Have they made any changes in this regard since that time?
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Dec 2, 2022 21:49
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Kazanski posted:Semi-newb questions. I got into this a while ago (I forgot the name of the league but it was the one where you go deeper and deeper into the mine) and then lost interest with the next "Syndicate" league. Are there 8 million new league things that have all carried over I would need to learn? Delve and Betrayal were those leagues. It's more like 6 million league things you need to learn. I do have a cheat sheet for all the league stuff. There's still plenty of one-shot opportunities, but building for defense is easier than it has been in years' past.
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Dec 2, 2022 21:54
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Kazanski posted:Semi-newb questions. I got into this a while ago (I forgot the name of the league but it was the one where you go deeper and deeper into the mine) and then lost interest with the next "Syndicate" league. Are there 8 million new league things that have all carried over I would need to learn? There are a lot of league mechanics, I would say at least.. 8? That have been rolled into core gameplay since Delve. So yeah. BUT once you're at the endgame system it's also easy to spec into nodes in your Atlas Tree that remove the possibility of encountering that content, so you can pick and choose what you want to see. It is possible to invest nicely into defenses now that make one shots a lot less likely, particularly with a high level Determination (Armor) aura + cast when damage taken Molten Shell, which gives you a temporary shield based on your armor. a new mechanic called Spell Suppression also exists which is a % chance to cause you to take 50% damage from a spell hit, which is huge. It takes some effort but it's not impossible to get it to a reasonable percentage. It all kind of depends on your build; I'm sure someone can recommend a tanky one to you.
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Dec 2, 2022 21:54
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Current tree on the left, new nodes circled on the right.  This is what I'm most excited about this patch, can't wait till we get the actual details on all the new atlas tree nodes.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:00
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Instead of a making a new good flicker build like I normally do, I'm going to take an old bad flicker build and make it good. That's right, it's time for Oro flicker league start.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:00
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J posted:
https://poeplanner.com/ has the new tree
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Dec 2, 2022 22:01
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Kazanski posted:Semi-newb questions. I got into this a while ago (I forgot the name of the league but it was the one where you go deeper and deeper into the mine) and then lost interest with the next "Syndicate" league. Are there 8 million new league things that have all carried over I would need to learn? There are 8 million new league things but you can also turn a bunch of them off once you hit maps to focus on things you know and like. Instakills still happen and it takes experience to decipher why exactly you got pasted but it's usually one of a) your character is lacking defensive layers b) you knowingly or unknowingly made bad decisions gambling on risk/reward c) gently caress you. They also made the first couple areas much harder for some reason but that should be less bad next league.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:02
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:https://poeplanner.com/ has the new tree
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Dec 2, 2022 22:04
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Whoops IDK how I shortcutted past the fact they were talking about atlas tree
Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Dec 2, 2022 |
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Dec 2, 2022 22:08
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quote:Last Rites 
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Dec 2, 2022 22:12
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Kazanski posted:Semi-newb questions. I got into this a while ago (I forgot the name of the league but it was the one where you go deeper and deeper into the mine) and then lost interest with the next "Syndicate" league. Are there 8 million new league things that have all carried over I would need to learn? I played at the exact same time as you and just came back for this past league. I found most of the new mechanics fairly easy to learn, some were a bit frustrating and one I've kinda punted on. In general though the goons here and on the discord have been really helpful with answering questions. I still get instakilled a bunch but i played a pretty squishy character.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:15
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Dec 2, 2022 22:15
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kofie yeboah get out of the poe thread
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Dec 2, 2022 22:16
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Arivia posted:kofie yeboah get out of the poe thread is that actually a secret base clip? I missed that one and demand a link
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Dec 2, 2022 22:18
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No Safe Word posted:is that actually a secret base clip? I missed that one and demand a link It appears not: https://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/09/ea-made-a-trailer-out-of-the-tiny-madden-glitch/
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Dec 2, 2022 22:18
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yeah sorry to disappoint
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Dec 2, 2022 22:19
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What cold or fire single target attack would you use to start out on Champ going into Heatshiver?
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Dec 2, 2022 22:25
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Traitorous Leopard posted:I also really like this guy's Trickster version maaaaaaan idk. his version is minmaxed much more so he's got quadruple the DPS but i'm not convinced it outweighs raider bonuses. phasing, easy spell suppress, easy ailment avoidance, +1 and free frenzies
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Dec 2, 2022 22:36
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Arivia posted:kofie yeboah get into the poe thread
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Dec 2, 2022 22:43
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External Organs posted:Elentor also ran Explosive Trap a few leagues ago iirc - wasn't it doing like...a billion damage? It had a 1bi salvo, yes. If I had bought the items at the market at the time instead of swapped currency to my Temporal Stasis Boneshatter idea, it would have had a 4bi salvo with the items I could buy. So this Uber Shaper would have been much faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ybM8USuU0 I don't know what the full potential damage-wise was, I'd say maybe 6-8bi? I didn't theorycraft further the point where it could do all content in the game. Highlights are uhh. I could farm The Feared with 1k HP from start to finish - all the bosses, all the keys, all the way up to the invitation, deathless, for a massive profit. It trivialized most of the Uber fights, though apparently Seismic at its peak was better since it covered the entire screen or something, I dunno, I preferred the explosions. I could run Uber Atziri and Vaal Temple with -Chaos Res and blitz through any Cortex with less than 2k HP. The build was mod agnostic and could run every map mod. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maPRrh2Ymbw Could do all bosses that could be empowered, empowered by 50% sentinels, including possessed Guardian Metamorphs. Elderslayers all at once for challenge, deathless. Could do Simulacrum 30 with 4 double bosses in the last 5 waves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXHn34dZ_4U And last this compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UleAtZ_v73s
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Dec 2, 2022 22:51
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I'm thinking about molten strike. is there a good deadeye build for that still?
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Dec 2, 2022 22:51
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...destroyed? Goddammit, is that yet some other new status that I've never heard of? Searched for destroy and destroyed on the wiki, no results.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:58
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Jinnigan posted:maaaaaaan idk. his version is minmaxed much more so he's got quadruple the DPS but i'm not convinced it outweighs raider bonuses. phasing, easy spell suppress, easy ailment avoidance, +1 and free frenzies He’s run that exact build SSF in another video series to great effect, although I do agree that the gear in his higher-end PoBs would still be considered “good to great” in Trade league. Raider is absolutely viable too, though. Really just comes down to how you want to tailor your defenses since a lot of the damage scaling comes from Nightblade and Heatshiver.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:01
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xZAOx posted:...destroyed? Goddammit, is that yet some other new status that I've never heard of? They have that on a few things, like alternate quality cleave and a ignite themed cluster notable. Things like porcupines won't explode out the spikes if they are destroyed. Edit: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cremator rawk cawk fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Dec 2, 2022 |
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Dec 2, 2022 23:02
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i know im very late reacting to this but - drat massive rogue harbor nerfs, those insane MTX effects are gonna murder graphics cards
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Dec 2, 2022 23:02
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xZAOx posted:...destroyed? Goddammit, is that yet some other new status that I've never heard of? Probably corpse destruction like shatter or the Axe mastery
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Dec 2, 2022 23:03
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xZAOx posted:...destroyed? Goddammit, is that yet some other new status that I've never heard of? Destroyed means they leave no corpses. Phantasmal Cleave, for example, removes the enemy's corpses (and death animation lol) meaning that they cannot be used as corpse explosions against you. It also means that they can't be raised as minions or consumed as offerings or give you bonuses for Plaguebringer. Usually not leaving corpses is a net positive though as it prevents enemies from using corpses against you.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:04
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Man, Vaal Cleave looks fun, but the league mechanic itself looks poo poo for it
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Dec 2, 2022 23:07
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So I have never done Cold Dot or Frost Blades before. Is Occultist going to be the go-to league starter for Cold Dot?
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Dec 2, 2022 23:14
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DangerDongs posted:So I have never done Cold Dot or Frost Blades before. yes Occultist is very good at cold DoT, I think Trickster could be pretty good with it too but Occultist is clearly a favorite for that archetype
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Dec 2, 2022 23:25
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Occultist cold DoT is probably the strongest and easiest to follow SC league starter if you want to complete your atlas and stones.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:25
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Gonna start with cold dot occultist and maybe try and pivot into int stacking whispering ice cyclone if it seems feasible.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:33
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I forgot the gem is on the webpage So you can have infinite fissures at once Sorry if I was the only one wondering
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Dec 2, 2022 23:41
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I'm 100% sold on VF. Let's loving go.
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Dec 3, 2022 00:08
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I know next to nothing about scaling slams and such - are the numbers on VF "good enough" compared to other slams? The skill looks good mechanically.
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Dec 3, 2022 00:17
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it's numbers are worse than molten strike but we don't know the lvl 20 gem stats so v0v
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