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3/130 doesn't seem wild for a pitcher who is expected to be great and has shown basically no signs of losing it, except the injury that he just recovered from and came back better. Also it's not my money what do I care.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:19
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Any multi-year deal for a 40 year old power pitcher with one TJ surgery has to have options on the back end in case something goes wrong or he falls off a cliff. Coming off of TJ, he signed a one year deal with the Astros tha tincluded a second year player option that was contingent on hitting an IP threshold. I don't know if that kind of stuff is on the table now because JV is in far, far better negotiation position than he was as an unknown commodity prior to this year, but I wouldn't want my team signing him without some sort of arm-fall-off insurance.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:20
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1598786455681306629 I always liked Toro even if he wasn't very good just because of the grand slam off Graveman after he was traded one-for-one for Graveman. Not surprised Winker is out already. Yeesh.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:20
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Now it's time for our regular segment, Where the gently caress is Toro
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Dec 2, 2022 22:21
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You guys think Jerry Dipoto likes making trades? I'm skeptical.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:22
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Pungry posted:https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1598786455681306629 Hope Winker bounces back and Toro finds himself in Milwaukee.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:22
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1598786482155753494 Dunno who that is, but he had a bunch of strikeouts and didn't walk anyone this year, so could be good?
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Dec 2, 2022 22:36
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mcmagic posted:You guys think Jerry Dipoto likes making trades? I'm skeptical. Someone add it to the spreadsheet and tell us the new total
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Dec 2, 2022 22:38
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The Pussy Boss posted:https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1598786482155753494 Would NOT count on Dodger RP's repeating their peak seasons but what do i know
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Dec 2, 2022 22:40
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mcmagic posted:Would NOT count on RP's repeating
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Dec 2, 2022 22:41
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https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1598761431947681792 Pat Tabler seems very nice but he is perhaps the most boring colour man to have ever lived so godspeed Tabby
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Dec 2, 2022 22:44
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Pungry posted:https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1598786455681306629 Seems like a pretty great trade for the Brewers even if Winker recovers some of his Reds form
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Dec 2, 2022 22:51
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Intruder posted:Seems like a pretty great trade for the Brewers even if Winker recovers some of his Reds form If not, I think the Mariners fleeced the Brewers.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:56
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er poo poo I meant great trade for the M's regardless of if Winker goes back to his Reds form unless he goes right back to 2021 numbers I guess Winker is bad defensively right?
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Dec 2, 2022 22:57
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Yeah, he was pretty awful on both sides.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:59
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The Pussy Boss posted:https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1598786482155753494 When did the Coldplay guy pick up baseball?
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Dec 2, 2022 22:59
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Some Numbers posted:If not, I think the Mariners fleeced the Brewers. I'm 99% sure Intruder meant "Mariners" instead of "Brewers". It is a good trade for the Mariners though they need one more top-of-the-line bat to make me feel really good about this offseason. I really love JP Crawford as a clubhouse guy but he isn't worth keeping as the starting shortstop versus one of the big free agent shortstops like Turner. What other great bats are out there? Correa is probably a non-starter for the fanbase but would be funny.
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Dec 2, 2022 22:59
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It's still pretty hilarious to me that Eugenio Suarez was an add on salary dump the Reds made the Mariners take in order to get Winker.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:00
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Pungry posted:I'm 99% sure Intruder meant "Mariners" instead of "Brewers". It is a good trade for the Mariners though they need one more top-of-the-line bat to make me feel really good about this offseason. I really love JP Crawford as a clubhouse guy but he isn't worth keeping as the starting shortstop versus one of the big free agent shortstops like Turner. What other great bats are out there? Correa is probably a non-starter for the fanbase but would be funny. One corner outfield position is still open, unless we want to platoon Haggerty and Kelenic.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:01
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Some Numbers posted:It's still pretty hilarious to me that Eugenio Suarez was an add on salary dump the Reds made the Mariners take in order to get Winker. I've always liked *Pat Hughes voice* Eyy-you-hennio Suarez, it's cool that he's getting some time on the contending... Seattle Mariners? That can't be right
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Dec 2, 2022 23:05
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Thank you for leaving the AL West Mr. Toro - we love you forever.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:06
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Anthopoulos is a warlock and I mean that as ambiguously as possible. https://twitter.com/matteddyba/status/1598742268751614009?s=46&t=cWpJUM03QKlGivmmO-K7lA
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Dec 2, 2022 23:07
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Some Numbers posted:One corner outfield position is still open, unless we want to platoon Haggerty and Kelenic. It's going to go to Haggerty/Kelenic/Trammell. This ownership group refuses to spend money. The Robbie Ray signing is this decade's Cano signing.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:07
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1598761431947681792 With Tabby not coming back and Buck probably not coming back either I wondering who's going to be working with Schulman next year.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:20
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Pungry posted:I'm 99% sure Intruder meant "Mariners" instead of "Brewers". It is a good trade for the Mariners though they need one more top-of-the-line bat to make me feel really good about this offseason. I really love JP Crawford as a clubhouse guy but he isn't worth keeping as the starting shortstop versus one of the big free agent shortstops like Turner. What other great bats are out there? Correa is probably a non-starter for the fanbase but would be funny. Trea Turner has said dozens of times he's not playing on the West coast unless it's for the Dodgers, he's not signing in Seattle. Correa's probably the best player of all 4 but it seems like the market on them is going so fast that Seattle's out of it. And when you're talking about paying Boegarts $200+ million for 8 years and agreeing that he's your starting SS I don't blame them.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:20
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mcmagic posted:Would NOT count on Dodger RP's repeating their peak seasons but what do i know To be fair he was having about just as good a season with the Cubs before we traded him at the deadline.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:33
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Penisaurus Sex posted:Trea Turner has said dozens of times he's not playing on the West coast unless it's for the Dodgers, he's not signing in Seattle. Boegarts and Correa are close enough as players that you should just sign the guy who isnt a cheating piece of poo poo imo
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Dec 2, 2022 23:36
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The Pussy Boss posted:https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1598786482155753494 surprised he went to the Red Sox, I always thought his favourite colour was Yellow
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Dec 2, 2022 23:38
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Penisaurus Sex posted:Trea Turner has said dozens of times he's not playing on the West coast unless it's for the Dodgers, he's not signing in Seattle. Kevin Brown wouldn't re-sign with the Padres after the 98 World Series because he wanted to pitch closer to his home in Georgia, then signed with the Dodgers. Baseball players go where the money is.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:39
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Julio Cruz posted:surprised he went to the Red Sox, I always thought his favourite colour was Yellow 
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Dec 2, 2022 23:42
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AlbertFlasher posted:With Tabby not coming back and Buck probably not coming back either I wondering who's going to be working with Schulman next year. Likely Joe Siddall.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:43
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Good for the Mariners sending Winker back to the NL Central. If he really hasn't been able to see his daughter, playing the Reds semi-regularly should be a relief.
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Correa is actually awesome as a player, and my opinion of him completely changed after seeing how much his Twins teammates bonded with him. By all accounts, he was a really positive influence on the team this year. I don't have to love every player on the team, I treat Miguel Sano at bats as commercial breaks for instance (because he's probably an abuser, not because of performance) so I was plenty ready to hate him and ignore him. But he's actually really cool and I just couldn't dislike him. Anyway, my point is, short of the Dodgers and Yankees, I dunno that there's a fanbase that can't learn to love him and you should want him on your team. He'll quickly quell the dissent imo Also the Twins should 100% be in on Verlander at that price (they should be in on every top end starter). Maybe they can get creative and do a big buy out on the third year or something. The Twins have money to spend, and a pretty set roster. They'll take a hit at SS, but I doubt they are willing to spend $250+ for an elite one. They also never spend big on FA pitching, so doubt is warranted, but now is the time where signing one stud player could put them over the top
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Players like Correa generally fall into the “hate him if he’s against us, love him if he’s with us” category for most fans. Many teammates will love a guy who fiercely, vociferously acts as a shield for them and takes the heat whether that’s for cheating or getting mad at a pitcher dominating them. Fans will love him for making GBS threads on the other team and reflecting some of that fandom “passion” you don’t usually see in players. It won’t work for everyone. I don’t like an rear end in a top hat and I don’t like poo poo talking. But for a lot of people when he’s being an rear end in a top hat for your team it gets a lot easier to swallow. Yankees spent last spring talking about Josh Donaldson was gonna “bring that edge” to the team. Thing is there’s no secret ingredient. If your team is winning and gelling it’s cool. If they’re not an rear end in a top hat is just an rear end in a top hat.
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You want Carlos Correa on your team, you have never seen a SS arm as good as his. Jason Castro retired today. He is, amazingly, the Astros franchise leader in HRs as a catcher. zoux fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Dec 3, 2022 |
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live with fruit posted:Kevin Brown wouldn't re-sign with the Padres after the 98 World Series because he wanted to pitch closer to his home in Georgia, then signed with the Dodgers. Baseball players go where the money is. Didn’t Vlad take a second best deal with Anaheim because they had Spanish broadcasts his mom could watch? It happens. Players are human and a lot of stuff factors into their decisions. Obviously money is a big part of that but at some point the numbers become so large that personal comfort can mean a lot.
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zoux posted:You want Carlos Correa on your team, you have never seen a SS arm as good as his. Castro's last AB was a 9th inning go ahead HR against the Mets - he also got the most important hit of the 2021 ALCS. <3 u Jason - our 3 spot hitter during the dark ages.
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STAC Goat posted:Didn’t Vlad take a second best deal with Anaheim because they had Spanish broadcasts his mom could watch? It happens. Players are human and a lot of stuff factors into their decisions. Obviously money is a big part of that but at some point the numbers become so large that personal comfort can mean a lot. And yet Kris Bryant signed with the Rockies.
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I honestly forgot Kris Bryant existed.
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live with fruit posted:Good for the Mariners sending Winker back to the NL Central. If he really hasn't been able to see his daughter, playing the Reds semi-regularly should be a relief. seeing this and relief about wong not playing against the cubs much anymore makes me think folks are forgetting the new scheduling mix: quote:The new schedule format includes 52 divisional games (previously 76), 64 other intraleague games (previously 66), and 46 interleague games (previously 20). Each team will play a four-game home-and-home series against their geographic interleague rival (think Mets vs. Yankees, etc.) plus one three-game series against the other 14 teams in the other league.
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