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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Hunter Biden posted:

Ignore my username.

Can we not post links to private nude photos? A basic description is as much as we need.

yeah on reflection you do actually raise a valid point

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Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

I now just realised that they must have gotten that voicemail from the Small Wiener Club off of Hunters laptop.

It's all very clear now.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598804557722972160

Yall know Musky was checking out Bidens dong for 40min

Wanted to make sure all the dong pics were in order

For 40min

Shazback
Jan 26, 2013

Infinitum posted:

Yall know Musky was checking out Bidens dong for 40min

Wanted to make sure all the dong pics were in order

For 40min

"Uhh, yea... This... This, this is really shocking... Just you... Uhh... Close the door on the way out, ok?"

nullEntityRNG
Jun 23, 2010

Mostly pseudo-random.
Hog so long musk has to make 2 parts about it

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?

Trixie Hardcore posted:

My husband says Hunter’s dick might not be that big and that it’s probably just an angle thing. He’s clearly trying to trick me into looking for more hog shots and I’m not going to fall for it.

It is indeed that big. I'm on the ISS and we have to swerve to avoid it

busalover
Sep 12, 2020

nullEntityRNG posted:

Hog so long musk has to make 2 parts about it

The schlong con

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Shazback posted:

"Uhh, yea... This... This, this is really shocking... Just you... Uhh... Close the door on the way out, ok?"
*40 minutes later* should we post the thing?
Musk, sleepily: what? Yeah, sure zzzz

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens
Let's not overlook that both the Biden and the Trump team had direct lines to the mods and got things removed. Only one of those teams was actually government at the time so I'll leave that one to the 1st amendment warriors currently screaming for impeachment because a dad, running for president, wanted his son's dick pics to be removed if possible. Taibbi clearly states this too in his bombshell thread, that nobody is gonna read because gently caress Twitter threads, and then glosses over it himself.

This is genuinely so sad but they committed to being outraged so they can't back down anymore and all have to pretend it's a huge scandal

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Private Cumshoe posted:

shaggy hog story

:hmmyes:

Also lol at the occasional implication that a foreigner can spend 10 years doing business in Russia and not be hand in glove with the mafia state the whole time. There is no incorrupt, legitimate business in Russia above the level of a dude selling his farm produce.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Steadiman posted:

Let's not overlook that both the Biden and the Trump team had direct lines to the mods and got things removed. Only one of those teams was actually government at the time so I'll leave that one to the 1st amendment warriors currently screaming for impeachment because a dad, running for president, wanted his son's dick pics to be removed if possible. Taibbi clearly states this too in his bombshell thread, that nobody is gonna read because gently caress Twitter threads, and then glosses over it himself.

This is genuinely so sad but they committed to being outraged so they can't back down anymore and all have to pretend it's a huge scandal

I legitimately want to know what the gently caress Taibbi thinks he's doing here, and how much Elon paid him to make this much of an rear end out of himself.

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
Srsly wtf did puin tell musk in that one phone call months ago?

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

god please help me posted:

Srsly wtf did puin tell musk in that one phone call months ago?

literally everything about this stinks of some kind of Russia. Musk, the guy who tried to buy a decommed Dnepr and started SpaceX when he wasn't allowed to buy a decommed Russian ICBM through weapons dealers, then 20 years later interfered in the Ukraine war by loving with Starlink access after calling Putin not two months ago; Taibbi, a journalist who very famously lived in Russia for 10 years; internal Twitter emails regarding a fake scandal generated by the GOP throwing around a compromised iCloud hack that almost assuredly was obtained through Russian sources. Biden family heavily involved in Ukrainian business and constantly under attack for it by the GOP for years running now.

Even if it's all coincidental, it's pretty loving coincidental.

MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Dec 3, 2022

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Hunter Biden posted:

Ignore my username.

Can we not post links to private nude photos? A basic description is as much as we need.

Yeah don't do that poo poo

If Hunter released his Honkin' Hog himself that's a different issue. But these were stolen which is no different than the hundreds of female celebs this has happened to

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum

busalover posted:

The schlong con

Sir John Falstaff
Apr 13, 2010

MrQwerty posted:

I legitimately want to know what the gently caress Taibbi thinks he's doing here, and how much Elon paid him to make this much of an rear end out of himself.

Taibbi is more than capable of making an rear end out of himself without pay; it's not really out 9f character for him.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Ignis posted:



must've been quite the collision

This isn't even Collusion though?

Lmao that Dim Tool is the only one who even cares, which is always a bellwether of anyone without lobatomy scars under a beanie will as well.

This is the most nothing "scandal" yet.

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Dec 3, 2022

Offler
Mar 27, 2010
It brings me great joy that Elon seems to have lost his former status as "real life Iron Man" on Reddit forever.

This was one of the most upvoted pics there today, under the heading "Murdered by words" with close to 70k upvotes:

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
The scene from Alien 3 where Ripley is cornered, only its Hunters' superb funcannon and I'm loving delighted by it

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Had I known Biden's son has such a large penis, I definitely would have voted for Trump

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
Why do ppl carewhat some failson be doing

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

anchorpunch posted:

I mean if evidence was found for trumps sons doing drugs and prostitutes in Ukraine while getting payed millions for 'adviser' jobs from oligarchs I would very much have expected that to be a huge story, especially around the election.

who cares about sons when trump himself gets in on the deal?
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/

OTOH everyone in the trump family is too square to do fun party drugs, and too embarrassed about their tiny micro-hogs to take pictures of banging prostitutes

Gros Tarla
Dec 30, 2008

Was trying to make some sense out of this, so discussed with my GF that works in advertising and it all makes sense now.

Right now is the most important time of the year for advertisers: between Black Friday and Christmas. They will be particularly looking out for the best return for each $ in whatever metric they care about (impressions, conversions, etc). Week-ends are also some of the days where most of the budget is allocated: that's when people shop for the holidays, either in stores or online.

Also, the way the "news" was released: specific time, where people would go on the website and refresh a bunch of time. Then a second specific time after the "fact check". Whole bunch of people generating impressions waiting for it to release. Then the way the thing was released: slow trickle of tweets at an inconsistent timing: more people refreshing pages, generating more impressions.

Basically what she thinks is going on is pretty simple: this time of the year is hyper critical for advertisers, this is where they make the most money in the year, by far. They look on the daily for the return on each of their ad buys and will adjust spending on the fly to maximize return. All of this Hunter Biden bullshit is going to give a big boost to these stats and make Twitter appear as a better investment for advertisers. It's probably a desperation move, because yeah, advertisers are scared of Twitter right now.

So all the rest doesn't really matter to him: whether or not the story is important, whether this was an efficient way to deliver the story, whether releasing it on a friday makes any sense about making sure the actual story has reach. It's all about inciting advertising spending, nothing less, nothing more.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Gros Tarla posted:

Was trying to make some sense out of this, so discussed with my GF that works in advertising and it all makes sense now.

Right now is the most important time of the year for advertisers: between Black Friday and Christmas. They will be particularly looking out for the best return for each $ in whatever metric they care about (impressions, conversions, etc). Week-ends are also some of the days where most of the budget is allocated: that's when people shop for the holidays, either in stores or online.

Also, the way the "news" was released: specific time, where people would go on the website and refresh a bunch of time. Then a second specific time after the "fact check". Whole bunch of people generating impressions waiting for it to release. Then the way the thing was released: slow trickle of tweets at an inconsistent timing: more people refreshing pages, generating more impressions.

Basically what she thinks is going on is pretty simple: this time of the year is hyper critical for advertisers, this is where they make the most money in the year, by far. They look on the daily for the return on each of their ad buys and will adjust spending on the fly to maximize return. All of this Hunter Biden bullshit is going to give a big boost to these stats and make Twitter appear as a better investment for advertisers. It's probably a desperation move, because yeah, advertisers are scared of Twitter right now.

So all the rest doesn't really matter to him: whether or not the story is important, whether this was an efficient way to deliver the story, whether releasing it on a friday makes any sense about making sure the actual story has reach. It's all about inciting advertising spending, nothing less, nothing more.

If there is anything Macy's loves it's advertising women's sweaters next to pictures of Hunter's Massive Hog.

Holy poo poo if this is actually the plan someone should check Elon for the same lobotomy scars as Tim Pool.

:lol:

Gros Tarla
Dec 30, 2008

TulliusCicero posted:

If there is anything Macy's loves it's advertising women's sweaters next to pictures of Hunter's Massive Hog.


I was wondering about that too and from what I understand. there is a disconnect between the people making decisions about avoiding a platform/vendor and the people doing the actual ad buying. And the people doing the buying, more often than not regular employees at an agency, are the ones who just look at the return for every given $ in ad spend. They don't really care where the ad actually lands generally, if there's to be something about avoiding a platform or whatever, it would mostly be up to their customer.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

TulliusCicero posted:

If there is anything Macy's loves it's advertising women's sweaters next to pictures of Hunter's Massive Hog.

Giggling uncontrollably at the idea of the various big retail companies having Xmas ads on Twitter saying stuff like "this year, give your loved one the gift they'll never forget", placed right next to tweets featuring Hunter Biden's monster dong

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

TulliusCicero posted:

If there is anything Macy's loves it's advertising women's sweaters next to pictures of Hunter's Massive Hog.

Holy poo poo if this is actually the plan someone should check Elon for the same lobotomy scars as Tim Pool.

:lol:
I was going to say maybe he's gunning for the lucrative sex toys and porn market, but the producers of porn for penis likers at least pretend to be a little more left leaning than twitter is these days.

PsychedelicWarlord
Sep 8, 2016


This is such a dangerous claim to make. Putting a target on the backs of his own employees
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598990820665065472?t=v7TIuoFvHJVU23uWagjjPQ&s=19

Shazback
Jan 26, 2013

Gros Tarla posted:

I was wondering about that too and from what I understand. there is a disconnect between the people making decisions about avoiding a platform/vendor and the people doing the actual ad buying. And the people doing the buying, more often than not regular employees at an agency, are the ones who just look at the return for every given $ in ad spend. They don't really care where the ad actually lands generally, if there's to be something about avoiding a platform or whatever, it would mostly be up to their customer.

Wouldn't the behaviour you're noting above decrease ad return though?

It would increase ad spend through more impressions / ad shows, but wouldn't it decrease the click-through rate (& consequent return metrics)?

Sure, repeat exposure might lead to some people clicking through on the 3rd or 4th ad show... But I can't imagine it works well when people are refreshing a page on short notice - for them it's functionally the same advert! Re-targeting, etc. is shown to be efficient when it triggers a recall.

I mean, if the number of impressions is all that matters, who is keeping twitter honest? Why wouldn't Elon just spin up a million bots that refreshe a page with a thousand ads every 20 milliseconds? Or just say "totes trust me, ad impressions are up 20% this week!"

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
that's too smart a plan for elon

it's not a smart plan, but still too smart for him

i'm sticking with "jealous Kanye was getting attention and desperate to make amends to the yelling nazis"

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



PsychedelicWarlord posted:

This is such a dangerous claim to make. Putting a target on the backs of his own employees
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598990820665065472?t=v7TIuoFvHJVU23uWagjjPQ&s=19

Un-loving believable

This loving clown really believes if you fight disinformation at all you are inherently left wing, and I don't know how much more "Pro Dictator" you can get than supporting Bolsonaro or Putin.

This guy should be given a loving super swirlie.

Almost Smart
Sep 14, 2001

so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway. when you had sex with me and that monkey
It’s almost like “conservative voices” got moderated more because they lie more, spread more misinformation, make more threats, and incite more violence.

Now I’m no nth level genius or nothing, but I think a more pressing issue might be why conservative ideology has become so tightly entwined with the above and how to rectify that, but introspection is for pussies and we’re here for dicks.

Giant Metal Robot
Jun 14, 2005


Taco Defender
Can Elon bring #basta back?

Or can he come up with a new exciting catchphrase like #dong or #goosh?

PsychedelicWarlord
Sep 8, 2016


TulliusCicero posted:

Un-loving believable

This loving clown really believes if you fight disinformation at all you are inherently left wing, and I don't know how much more "Pro Dictator" you can get than supporting Bolsonaro or Putin.

This guy should be given a loving super swirlie.

It's just true that high profile conservative influencers and politicians post more disinformation and violative content on social media. There's been several studies run that show that they post more inciting content, more false claims, and more content that is likely to be aggressively moderated. And at the same time, they're also engagement hounds who take advantage of algorithmic amplification to spread this poo poo everywhere. The claim that there's left wing censorship just doesn't hold out.

It's also laughable to claim that the Brazilian right is suppressed on social media when its largely successful today because of unfettered platforms. They have far right YouTubers in their government ffs

Underwhelmed
Mar 7, 2004


Nap Ghost

Shazback posted:

Wouldn't the behaviour you're noting above decrease ad return though?

It would increase ad spend through more impressions / ad shows, but wouldn't it decrease the click-through rate (& consequent return metrics)?

Sure, repeat exposure might lead to some people clicking through on the 3rd or 4th ad show... But I can't imagine it works well when people are refreshing a page on short notice - for them it's functionally the same advert! Re-targeting, etc. is shown to be efficient when it triggers a recall.

I mean, if the number of impressions is all that matters, who is keeping twitter honest? Why wouldn't Elon just spin up a million bots that refreshe a page with a thousand ads every 20 milliseconds? Or just say "totes trust me, ad impressions are up 20% this week!"

Elon doesn't understand how to work the beast he is riding. Imagine a toddler trying to drive a car. It's all just shiny knobs and buttons, and he is pushing and turning everything to make it go. Sort of like Trump in the dump truck again.

Elon believes he is the smartest man on earth, and if he can't be bothered to consider how inflated these numbers are going to look to potential advertisers, he assumes they won't know either.

Ralph Crammed In
May 11, 2007

Let's get clean and smart


"So Kanye is talking up Hitler on Alex Jones, I wonder what's next from the clown squad...oh Musk is posting stolen pics of the President's son's President Johnson. OK."

2022 writers really going hard for the end of the year. What incredibly stupid thing will happen next? Find out on our next episode, Monday!

PsychedelicWarlord
Sep 8, 2016


I'm not sure Elon's mode of creating a crisis every day to drive huge traffic is sustainable. Do advertisers look at DAU or are they looking at clicks on ads? Apparently revenue for ads was down 80% from expected at the beginning of the world cup so I'm not surprised they're getting desperate

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

If you're working on an exclusive story late afternoon on a Friday and it can wait until Monday morning, you schedule it for Monday morning, because more people will be sitting in their offices pretending to work so they'll be more likely to read it. Jesus Christ.

"Listen Matt, my coke dealer's busy the next few days, we gotta get this up NOW!"

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

PsychedelicWarlord posted:

I'm not sure Elon's mode of creating a crisis every day to drive huge traffic is sustainable. Do advertisers look at DAU or are they looking at clicks on ads? Apparently revenue for ads was down 80% from expected at the beginning of the world cup so I'm not surprised they're getting desperate

it also implies said advertisers dont look at, well, the news. Or anything.

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Gros Tarla
Dec 30, 2008

Shazback posted:

Wouldn't the behaviour you're noting above decrease ad return though?

It would increase ad spend through more impressions / ad shows, but wouldn't it decrease the click-through rate (& consequent return metrics)?

Sure, repeat exposure might lead to some people clicking through on the 3rd or 4th ad show... But I can't imagine it works well when people are refreshing a page on short notice - for them it's functionally the same advert! Re-targeting, etc. is shown to be efficient when it triggers a recall.

I mean, if the number of impressions is all that matters, who is keeping twitter honest? Why wouldn't Elon just spin up a million bots that refreshe a page with a thousand ads every 20 milliseconds? Or just say "totes trust me, ad impressions are up 20% this week!"


PsychedelicWarlord posted:

I'm not sure Elon's mode of creating a crisis every day to drive huge traffic is sustainable. Do advertisers look at DAU or are they looking at clicks on ads? Apparently revenue for ads was down 80% from expected at the beginning of the world cup so I'm not surprised they're getting desperate

Different campaigns are different goals. Sometimes a campaign's goal is brand awareness, so impression is more important. Sometimes they want to get a customer to their website or just even get someone to go through with a potential purchase already in their carts, in which case conversions would be more important. Even in that case, you rely on impressions to convert, which are at their more expensive around the holidays.

Sorry if some of it is explained badly, just trying to relay my understanding of it :D

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