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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

Arc Hammer posted:

The flesh is weak.

And bruised and spongey

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rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

lonelylikezoidberg posted:

All I want to know is if Horus is cut or uncut

The foreskin is cut in the shape of the chaos emblem.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

rufius posted:

The foreskin is cut in the shape of the chaos emblem.

And when he pees, there are eight streams.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009


No way an ork is running away from a cool rear end explosion like that

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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lonelylikezoidberg posted:

All I want to know is if Horus is cut or uncut
They explained in one of the anthologies that his foreskin regrew.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

SardonicTyrant posted:

They explained in one of the anthologies that his foreskin regrew.

He now has 8 of them

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

S.J. posted:

He now has 8 of them

8 foreskins or 8 dicks? Or is it 8 dicks with 8 foreskins apiece?

lonelylikezoidberg
Dec 19, 2007
Warhammer: it all comes down to dicks

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Tzeentch gave him a literal anteater for a dick.

EDIT: One of my favorite parts of Throne Of Light is how the dude is like "Just sacrifice a random group of prisoners and cultists and whoever, Tzeentch will figure out the pattern later."

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Dec 3, 2022

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
You've heard of the bifurcated stem, now bear witness to the eight pointed star

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

The Black Library preview event has started by the way.
Totally missed the time for it and just realised as I saw the WarCo tweet. :v:

Edit:
First reveal is a Dawn of Fire book written by... Nick Kyme.
Oh no.

I guess they had to remind us that the Dawn of Fires series was still a thing that exists.

It's Kyme writing Black Templars. Lovely.

They announced a novel tie-in character. Or series since it's also Dawn of FIre related.
Who is surprised to learn that it is yet another Space Marine?

And obviously the first volume of the "final" 30k books is shown off.
I can't believe Abnett gets to write a book that has a decent ending.

Cover of Volume 2 showed as well. Pictures will be up whenever WarCo decides to put up the articles.

Our first AOS entry (at last) is a Bad Loon Rising by Andy Clark. About Zograt and Skrog, a Grot shaman and Troggoth having wacky adventures together. Concept reminds me of the Thanquol and Boneripper books from back then.

Oh look, another book about Space Marines. :rolleyes:
An artbook about the First Founding chapters.

And we're also getting a book about Cypher the Fallen by John French.
Hooray, even more Space Marine books.

Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Dec 4, 2022

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

Do we know what Abnett wrote for Darktide? There’s not much story in it

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

I assume plot stuff. The dialogue and flavour was a bunch of other BL writers. And Matt Ward was the lead if I remember right to make things kinda funny.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

Miguel Prado posted:

Do we know what Abnett wrote for Darktide? There’s not much story in it

I imagine the inevitable DLC/updates will add more

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

I'm half expecting there to be some kind of framework for future seasonal content where they have a 3 month story arc and theme, like Deeprock.

That said I'm so incredibly underwhelmed by the story in Darktide and it's my biggest disappointment about the game after they hyped it up with Abnett last year. I want to believe Inquisitor Rannick is a dupe or a fake because he's the most underwhelming character ever portrayed, I got into the game thinking the lady captain was the Inquisitor. But this is fatshark so I'm 99% sure they cut everything interesting and 6 cutscenes of people saying hello and go to more missions is all we have for a year.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

I hate it when they dump all the interesting books at the end.
Because we're getting a new Gotrek book, Blightslayer. By Richard Strachan in this case. And a new companion, kinda sad to see Malineth seemingly leaving the slayer.

A book about Genderbent Ursarkar Creed Ursula Creed, by new author Jude Reid.

The Last Volari, by Gary Kloster, is a Soulblight Gravelords book.

Then finally Pilgrims of Fire by Justin D. Hill, supposedly the start of a new series about the Sisters of Battle.

Oh, and ADB's Armageddon book is getting a Collectors Edition in 2023, alongside Anthony Reynolds Word Bearer series.
And for the map collectors you can look forward to a new 30k map about the battles for the interior of the Imperial Palace.

Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Dec 4, 2022

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Yeah that was disappointing tbh.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/04/heres-whats-coming-to-black-library-in-2023/

And here's the collated reveals article for anyone wanting more details.

Which also includes a bunch of extra stuff not mentioned in the stream (I think, I definitely tuned out for a lot of it).


Guy Hayley’s Skarsnik and William King’s Angel of Fire got selected for reprints by readers for the Black Library Celebration next year.


Gav Thorpe’s Angels of Darkness is getting a CE reprint.

Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Dec 4, 2022

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Miguel Prado posted:

Do we know what Abnett wrote for Darktide? There’s not much story in it

apperently the story is gonna be slow pushed out over the months and years since its more of live game then vermintide was. but you can see abnetts influence. chaos is there but its mostly just regular guardsman and cultists fighting regular dudes. no marines of any variety yet.


Cooked Auto posted:

I hate it when they dump all the interesting books at the end.
Because we're getting a new Gotrek book, Blightslayer. By Richard Strachan in this case. And a new companion, kinda sad to see Malineth seemingly leaving the slayer.

A book about Genderbent Ursarkar Creed Ursula Creed, by new author Jude Reid.

The Last Volari, by Gary Kloster, is a Soulblight Gravelords book.

Then finally Pilgrims of Fire by Justin D. Hill, supposedly the start of a new series about the Sisters of Battle.

Oh, and ADB's Armageddon book is getting a Collectors Edition in 2023, alongside Anthony Reynolds Word Bearer series.
And for the map collectors you can look forward to a new 30k map about the battles for the interior of the Imperial Palace.

sisters of battle book looks ok. i like sisters books even if they are mostly bolter porn.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Darktides combat is excellent, but I'm already burning out on generic industrial hellscape XYZ and the lack of a meaningful plot and missing the fantastic characterisation of Vermintides characters means I can't see myself playing this in the long haul.

Peyote Panda
Mar 10, 2019

Cooked Auto posted:

And obviously the first volume of the "final" 30k books is shown off.
I can't believe Abnett gets to write a book that has a decent ending.

Cover of Volume 2 showed as well. Pictures will be up whenever WarCo decides to put up the articles.
Pictures are here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/04/heres-whats-coming-to-black-library-in-2023/

Since Horus and Sanguinius are fighting on the cover of volume 2 of The End and the Death I'm guessing we don't even get to that penultimate confrontation much less Horus v the Emperor until volume 2.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


At what point in the Heresy should I read Garro?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Deptfordx posted:

Darktides combat is excellent, but I'm already burning out on generic industrial hellscape XYZ and the lack of a meaningful plot and missing the fantastic characterisation of Vermintides characters means I can't see myself playing this in the long haul.

i assume upper hive spire and cathedrals and other places will come sooner or later. I don't fully mind the lack of characterization since its supposed to be inquisitorial canon fodder and probably working with different folks each time but yeah its alot weaker then then vermintide.

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

Book about Cypher by John French. Pretty sure I have promised myself to never read anything by him again. He’s the poor Guy Haley right?

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Miguel Prado posted:

Book about Cypher by John French. Pretty sure I have promised myself to never read anything by him again. He’s the poor Guy Haley right?



No French is good. Not one of the greats but he is certainly better than Haley. Horusian Wars series is excellent as is the Ahriman series. He has some misses though, like Mortis. Slaves to Darkness was good.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!

D-Pad posted:

No French is good. Not one of the greats but he is certainly better than Haley. Horusian Wars series is excellent as is the Ahriman series. He has some misses though, like Mortis. Slaves to Darkness was good.

Yeah, I was going to say, he's definitely mid-tier, not quite as good as wraight or abnett or dembski-bowden, but still good.

OPAONI
Jul 23, 2021

D-Pad posted:

No French is good. Not one of the greats but he is certainly better than Haley. Horusian Wars series is excellent as is the Ahriman series. He has some misses though, like Mortis. Slaves to Darkness was good.

French loves his Puzzle Box plots. I'd be extra wary with a character like Cypher about it.

Random Integer
Oct 7, 2010

Demiurge4 posted:

I'm half expecting there to be some kind of framework for future seasonal content where they have a 3 month story arc and theme, like Deeprock.

That said I'm so incredibly underwhelmed by the story in Darktide and it's my biggest disappointment about the game after they hyped it up with Abnett last year. I want to believe Inquisitor Rannick is a dupe or a fake because he's the most underwhelming character ever portrayed, I got into the game thinking the lady captain was the Inquisitor. But this is fatshark so I'm 99% sure they cut everything interesting and 6 cutscenes of people saying hello and go to more missions is all we have for a year.

Rannick is an Interrogator, Grendyl is the Inquisitor and the only interaction you get with them is the pre-recorded "Welcome to Inquisition" hr tape they play for you and the other peons. Presumably if they do some actual plot at any point the reveal of Grendyls identity will be part of it. I'm putting money "Actually Grendyl died years ago and no one is really in charge of all this".

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

D-Pad posted:

No French is good. Not one of the greats but he is certainly better than Haley. Horusian Wars series is excellent as is the Ahriman series. He has some misses though, like Mortis. Slaves to Darkness was good.

French has very great moments, sometimes even whole chapters that are golden, but his actual bigger plots and narratives are usually middling.

Except for Mortis, where everything just clashes and congeals, as if someone tried the teleport 5 different soties in the brundlefly machine.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Miguel Prado posted:

Book about Cypher by John French. Pretty sure I have promised myself to never read anything by him again. He’s the poor Guy Haley right?



I'm a big fan of John French, and a bit biased, he's not the best prose writer, but he "gets" the 40k vibe more than anyone else.

Anyway on that note, I have high hopes for this book, considering Cypher seems to have an important part in the whole new metaplot regarding "The Emperor Knew" theory, and his involvement not just with Roboute in the Great Rift era of 41K, but also with a lot of events in 30k and 40k and everything inbetween, makes me hopeful for this book. I'm hoping for some more of that metaplot hinted at in Penitent, and in John French's own series, Horusian Wars.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


How much do the abridged versions of the first three Hoary Heresy books actually abridge? It's almost a pointless question because duty compells me to re-read the unabridged versions (I read them years ago and I'm hoping audiobooks will make it easier to stick with the series), but I'm kinda curious.
edit: "Duty" is neurodivergence

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord
I like John French but it seems like his quality varies based on the subject matter.

I mentally divide warham aythors into 3 rough categories: writers that are always worth reading, writers who are worth reading if you're interested in the characters the book is about and writers that are not worth reading.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Random Integer posted:

Rannick is an Interrogator, Grendyl is the Inquisitor and the only interaction you get with them is the pre-recorded "Welcome to Inquisition" hr tape they play for you and the other peons. Presumably if they do some actual plot at any point the reveal of Grendyls identity will be part of it. I'm putting money "Actually Grendyl died years ago and no one is really in charge of all this".

my guess is the servitor HR thing WAS grendyl because he strikes me as a radical type inquisitor.

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

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Deptfordx posted:

Darktides combat is excellent, but I'm already burning out on generic industrial hellscape XYZ and the lack of a meaningful plot and missing the fantastic characterisation of Vermintides characters means I can't see myself playing this in the long haul.
Darktide feels like Necromunda Hired Gun. Or Transformers: War for Cybertron. The environment doesn't feel like a place where people actually live and work. Where are the apartments? The public squares? The markets? It feels... like a video game gauntlet with sci-fi greeble wallpaper.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Kurzon posted:

The markets?
There's one right outside the Arbites stronghold in that one hit mission.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord
Hired Gun was a secret sequel to E.Y.E. The Divine Cybermancy and it owns. I'm glad that many 40k games are decent or even actually good these days

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Developers finally realized what Bolters are supposed to do.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Improbable Lobster posted:

Hired Gun was a secret sequel to E.Y.E. The Divine Cybermancy and it owns. I'm glad that many 40k games are decent or even actually good these days

I haven't played it, does it the immersive sim elements, the absolute mind gently caress of a story, or general weirdness of E.Y.E?

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Kurzon posted:

Darktide feels like Necromunda Hired Gun. Or Transformers: War for Cybertron. The environment doesn't feel like a place where people actually live and work. Where are the apartments? The public squares? The markets? It feels... like a video game gauntlet with sci-fi greeble wallpaper.

There's a bunch of public squares and stalls and workplaces and poo poo. Not too many apartments, but I'm certain some hive cities essentially don't have them when you get a click down or so. You just tuck yourself into a storage closet the five hours you're not mounting skulls on a skull.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Kurzon posted:

Darktide feels like Necromunda Hired Gun. Or Transformers: War for Cybertron. The environment doesn't feel like a place where people actually live and work. Where are the apartments? The public squares? The markets? It feels... like a video game gauntlet with sci-fi greeble wallpaper.

You literally walk through a market, a public square, and an apartment block in the game. Along with a train station, a subway, a church, and a shantytown. This is a weird criticism to level at darktide because a) lots of other games have this exact problem and darktide is unusual in not having it, and b) darktide has plenty of things to criticize!

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