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goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

No Wave posted:

Too hard to define. I would say Cyclops and M'Baku in terms of reasons to put them in a deck but I would expect Sandman to be worse for my winrate than either of those.

Cyclops has such an insanely cool animation when you play him from hand, it's really funny

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Charity Porno posted:

she denies the opponent a draw, essentially "adding" a junk card to their deck

And for that you gave up at least 2 power and also spent 2 energy. That's not to say Widow is bad, but she needs a specific type of deck.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
I faced my first opponent with a deck built around patriot today and was like "lol these don't have any abilities you idiot" then I got wrecked

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


At least Cyclops gets a boost in a Patriot deck, M'baku doesn't even have that. You can Kazar/Blue Marvel him but you can also do that with a dozen other 1/2 cards that have actual good powers

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Tom Smykowski posted:

I faced my first opponent with a deck built around patriot today and was like "lol these don't have any abilities you idiot" then I got wrecked

Yeah, when you see people playing Cyclops, Misty Knight, Brood, etc that’s your signal that they’re going Patriot+Blue Marvel+Onslaught so be ready with your Enchantress if you have one and mentally add 3-6 to each card.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

buffalo all day posted:

Idk if it’s the best snapping way (I’m sure there’s lots of math here) but I generally:

*try to snap in the first couple turns if I draw the nuts (or am close, like I have Kazar and Angela in my opening hand in zoo) - you can always retreat if your opponent snaps later and things have broken bad for you. This way I generally deny my opponent information - all they know is I liked my opening hand, as opposed to “I just played devil dino and they snapped so they have Shang chi”

*never snap t6 - would rather take the 2 cubes than push my opponent out

*snap more frequently but also retreat more frequently — snapping and retreating costs you the same cubes as not snapping and playing through the whole game. The goal is 8 cube wins

This advice has completely changed my success on the Ranking track. Thank you.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009



Opopanax posted:

At least Cyclops gets a boost in a Patriot deck,

Yeah, but he's the same cost as Patriot, so you're hopefully playing Patriot instead of him. That's what makes him inferior to every other "no ability" card.

M'baku is still worse, though.

Waffleopolis
Apr 24, 2005

It's time....for the MAIN event!
Should I buy Green Goblin? In the store and I have 3700 tokens. He's good at what he does but I am on the fence right now.

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

doingitwrong posted:

This advice has completely changed my success on the Ranking track. Thank you.

:cheersdoge:

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

buffalo all day posted:

*never snap t6 - would rather take the 2 cubes than push my opponent out

I've actually started snapping on 6 again. Not always, just sometimes.

And today I bluffed someone with it. They couldn't play anywhere and were actually winning (I didn't have the power to overcome their lead of 12 or so in this one lane), but I snapped to see if I could get them to retreat and it worked.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

I answered my own question as to finding a more consistent deck than my Deadpool slot machine, and that is throwing Dracula, Gambit, and Ghost Rider into an Apocalypse discard deck stacked with some additional hefty lads like Hulk and Infinaut. Having a couple different win conditions is nice.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

I started using a Discard deck, and it's kinda broken my losing streak as of late (I went from 53 to 44)
I'm still not back into the 50s, but at least I win every once in awhile, even if the deck isn't optimized.

Blade
Morbius
Moon Knight
Lady Sif
Sword Master
Dracula
Ghost Rider
Strong Guy
Hell Cow
Hela
Apocalypse
America Chavez

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

the_steve posted:

I started using a Discard deck, and it's kinda broken my losing streak as of late (I went from 53 to 44)
I'm still not back into the 50s, but at least I win every once in awhile, even if the deck isn't optimized.

Blade
Morbius
Moon Knight
Lady Sif
Sword Master
Dracula
Ghost Rider
Strong Guy
Hell Cow
Hela
Apocalypse
America Chavez

That's kind of similar to a cheap Dracopolyse deck I made, it works quite well, with Dracula picking up a massive Apoc at the end, although I need Lockjaw to really make it work.

# (1) Sunspot
# (1) Iceman
# (1) Blade
# (2) Morbius
# (2) Swarm
# (2) Colleen Wing
# (3) Moon Knight
# (3) Lady Sif
# (3) Sword Master
# (4) Dracula
# (4) Hellcow
# (6) Apocalypse

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Can't wait until I pull Colleen Wing, being able to reliably hit Swarm or Wolverine with a discard seems really handy.

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011

Waffleopolis posted:

Should I buy Green Goblin? In the store and I have 3700 tokens. He's good at what he does but I am on the fence right now.

If you enjoy playing disruption style decks, then absolutely.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Snapping with Daredevil after the opponent plays their turn 5 is almost a guaranteed retreat. I just usually only get one cube from it which is kinda annoying.

Psyker
Jun 21, 2004

[Binge and] Purge the xenos!

No Wave posted:

I see so much complaining about collector's reserves but getting random cosmetics all the time is pretty fun...

I like it but I'd much rather get cards over cosmetics for cards I don't use.

Psyker
Jun 21, 2004

[Binge and] Purge the xenos!

Tender Bender posted:

Snapping with Daredevil after the opponent plays their turn 5 is almost a guaranteed retreat. I just usually only get one cube from it which is kinda annoying.

Run Professor X too and lock a lane in your favor.

The problem with running control in this game is that if you're too aggressive or too disruptive they just leave. The balance is to disrupt and leave them with the illusion that they can still win, then blow them out in turn 6.

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard
While SNAP! has its frustrating moments I feel even losing is okay and not a problem compared to Hearthstone where you spend 60 minutes for 2 worst case matches you both lose. In 60 minutes you usually have done alle 6 daily Snap Missions.

Once you stop caring about the ladder and play with your grey and green cards to level them up, it’s amusing to win some games by the help of RNG/locations.

I quit Hearthstone for Snap, even if it less „depth“. It’s more fun for me. And the matches happen so fast, perfect mobile gaming.

Mr.PayDay fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Dec 3, 2022

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Psyker posted:

Run Professor X too and lock a lane in your favor.

The problem with running control in this game is that if you're too aggressive or too disruptive they just leave. The balance is to disrupt and leave them with the illusion that they can still win, then blow them out in turn 6.

Oh for sure. I've got Aero and Professor X in there. Gamora is my third t5 option, tried Hobgoblin but he feels too situational.

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard
Re: Sometimes you win with a stupid deck of your least quality grey, green and blue cards lol . Opponent snapped on turn 1 and I felt I donate some cubes, but RNG is RNG.

CitizenKeen
Nov 13, 2003

easygoing pedant
Blew all my tokens on Valkyrie. Now I need a deck.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


goferchan posted:

I also have Patriot in the shop and I'm tempted, especially because I've got Ultron and Debrii, but if I grab him I feel like then I'll just be sitting around waiting for Mystique so I can make the "real" Patriot deck. Thinking at this point I'll just save my remaining 3k for Titania but if Death pops up I'll probably cave

Wait, you use Mystique in your Patriot deck?

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Quackles posted:

Wait, you use Mystique in your Patriot deck?
Doesn't everyone?

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Quackles posted:

Wait, you use Mystique in your Patriot deck?

Do you not?

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
She's also good with Dino. (As I just found out, sigh.)

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

No Wave posted:

Doesn't everyone?

Of course not. I don't use Patriot either. Might have something to do with not having those cards, but hey I do have Ultron and the recently acquired Doctor Doom.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Dec 4, 2022

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Megazver posted:

She's also good with Dino. (As I just found out, sigh.)

I've only ever tried pairing her up with Wong, but 7 times out of 10, the opponent has a Cosmo ready to go, and the other 2 times, I can't draw anything to bring the combo home

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


No Wave posted:

Doesn't everyone?

My current list is:

(1) The Hood
(1) Ant-Man
(1) Misty Knight
(2) Mister Sinister
(2) Shocker
(3) Patriot
(3) Cosmo
(3) Cyclops
(4) The Thing
(5) White Tiger
(6) Hulk - though I'm testing (6) Ultron.

It plays fairly straightforwardly.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




rydiafan posted:

Yeah, but he's the same cost as Patriot, so you're hopefully playing Patriot instead of him. That's what makes him inferior to every other "no ability" card.

M'baku is still worse, though.

He's also got the worst power/cost ratio of all vanilla cards, every other one is at least 3:2,

I don't have M'Baku but I imagine with a bump in both cost and power he could run. Or even if his ability functioned from hand too, like Angel should. I can see him as an alternative for Zoo or Patriot decks.

One issue is that the space at cost 1 is limited. You've got Rock at 0, multiplying power at 1 (Squirrel Girl, Elektra, Sunspot), and 2 is your baseline with upside, so he'd instantly be power creep at 3 power. If he were, say, 4/5, there's more space to play around with. Could go to 4/6 to see, maybe even 4/4, on par with Enchantress, and still have enough power to break a close lane.

Might also be a good idea to have cards that shuffle things back. Maybe something like Beast or Falcon, but it shuffles back with a discount, dunno, there's space there


Quackles posted:

My current list is:

(1) The Hood
(1) Ant-Man
(1) Misty Knight
(2) Mister Sinister
(2) Shocker
(3) Patriot
(3) Cosmo
(3) Cyclops
(4) The Thing
(5) White Tiger
(6) Hulk - though I'm testing (6) Ultron.

It plays fairly straightforwardly.

Ultron kicks rear end, I don't run Sinister or Ant Man in my build at all. Misty, Squirrel Girl (possibly cutting her soon), Shocker, Cyclops, Cosmo, Ka-Zar, Shang-Chi, Abomination, Blue Marvel, Ultron, Doctor Doom. My plan is to get some cards around, focusing more on one lane, and drop Ultron, with Doom as a backup.

Serperoth fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Dec 4, 2022

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat


Scrap Dragon
Oct 6, 2013

SECRET TECHNIQUE:
DARK SHADOW
BLACK FALLEN ANGEL!


My Patriot deck looks like this:

# (1) Squirrel Girl
# (1) Misty Knight
# (1) Zero
# (2) Shocker
# (2) Lizard
# (3) Mystique
# (3) Patriot
# (4) The Thing
# (4) Typhoid Mary
# (5) Abomination
# (6) Doctor Doom
# (6) Hulk
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.

I prefer Patriot into Mystique over running Blue Marvel and Onslaught because Mystique doesn't have to be at the same location, making you less vulnerable to getting sniped by Enchantress or Rogue.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


To be fair, Mystique could replace Cosmo. I usually use Cosmo as an honor guard for Patriot, to protect him from Enchantress etc.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I just popped Mystique in my Patriot deck, seems like a good call. I had Onslaught there and she does effectively the same thing for 3 cost instead of 6. If you time it right you can drop her and Patriot together on turn 6 for a fun surprise

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


T6 She-Hulk and Infinaut on the location that copies the card to another location. :discourse:

Migertantix
Jul 15, 2003

Opopanax posted:

I just popped Mystique in my Patriot deck, seems like a good call. I had Onslaught there and she does effectively the same thing for 3 cost instead of 6. If you time it right you can drop her and Patriot together on turn 6 for a fun surprise
I play an AMP version. Magik on 5, Apocalypse on 6, Mystique and Patriot on 7. No one expects a 17 power rock, squirrel or Wasp. You just need to ensure you have three slots open in one location to land it so you have to be conscious of filling your board with tokens.

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
Saw this on the official Discord server. Good to know info that isn't really explained in-game.

Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004


WOKE UP IN THE DESERT AGAIN

Serperoth posted:

My plan is to get some cards around, focusing more on one lane, and drop Ultron, with Doom as a backup.

This has crushed me so many times this week. Ultron Patriot decks focusing on that one lane and never taking the initiative back means my turn 6 Killmonger is useless and I generally don't run Enchantress/Rogue/Cosmo.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

First of May posted:

T6 She-Hulk and Infinaut on the location that copies the card to another location. :discourse:

I just did something similar. Had The Infinaut and Hulk in hand, dropped Sif onto Sinister London to discard them both and then Ghost Rider the next turn to slam the both of them on to the board on turn four. My opponent did not stick around.

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My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.
Here's another "fun" Hulkbuster interaction I just found via Morph: If you Hulkbust Lockjaw he bounces himself off the board and back into your deck lmao

My Second Re-Reg fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Dec 4, 2022

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