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I really thought Trump calling for the US Constitution to be torn up pursuant to him being reinstalled as president would have been a bigger topic of discussion. https://twitter.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/1599076564372967424
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That oversight implies that no one of note is paying attention to his Truth account, which is a good thing
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Dec 4, 2022 04:13
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haveblue posted:That oversight implies that no one of note is paying attention to his Truth account, which is a good thing Fair point.
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Dec 4, 2022 04:15
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Cabbit posted:I really thought Trump calling for the US Constitution to be torn up pursuant to him being reinstalled as president would have been a bigger topic of discussion. its because he is stewing in his own poo poo, probably literally. everything since the election has gone bad for him and he hosed up with his big gambles in the midterms bad enough that a bunch of the GOP are looking for some new ghoul who will say his poo poo nicer or focus or hurting trans kids more or some poo poo. anyway, now he basicaly has to stick on his super echo chamber and crack ping brain super loving hard with the purist chud bullshit so now you mostly just get this stuff now. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Dec 4, 2022 |
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Dec 4, 2022 04:17
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Cabbit posted:I really thought Trump calling for the US Constitution to be torn up pursuant to him being reinstalled as president would have been a bigger topic of discussion. It really is a shame that the Democrats abusively used their control of executive power to strong arm twitter into destroying democracy. It's just too bad there wasn't a big strong President known for being the best in power at the time. As we all know, not having Hunter Biden's dick picks shoved into all of our feeds is what truly stole the election from the national belt holder, and hall of famer, Donald J. Trump.
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Dec 4, 2022 04:21
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dpkg chopra posted:Fulton County (which includes most of Metro Atlanta) stopped using the scanners in the General. they were using the scanners in dekalb
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Dec 4, 2022 04:22
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dpkg chopra posted:Re: Georgia voting Jesus Christ. In Colorado they mail me a ballot a month ahead of time, I google everything to make an informed vote over a pot of coffee at my kitchen table, fill it out, walk it to the 24/7 ballot drop at literally any time until polls close. Then they text you when the ballot is received and again when it’s counted.
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Dec 4, 2022 05:54
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When we went to vote early in Wisconsin, we had to have our names verified by the poll worker, fill out the ballot, put it in an envelope, and then write our names on the sealed envelope on front of a different poll worker. Presumably day of voters just needed to visually compare IDs to voter roll.
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Dec 4, 2022 07:37
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It's always all about which neighborhood you're voting in. Down here in America's Wang absentee, early voting, and day of voting is among the easiest and most efficient in the entire country. Unless you're in certain areas of St. Petersburg, Miami, Orlando, or Tampa. For those precincts, and only those precincts(bar hurricanes), every cycle ends up with a court battle to extend voting hours because for some strange reason only these places have long lines and people still waiting to vote at poll closure.
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Dec 4, 2022 07:53
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Universal mail ballots in CO took effect right around the time I was eligible to vote. I've literally never stood in line at a polling location, the worst I've had to do is show up to one to ask where the drop box is. I've never worn pants while filling out a ballot, just on the sheer principle that that's a thing I can do. It owns bones and I want everybody to have the same voting experience.
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Dec 4, 2022 09:29
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The Maroon Hawk posted:Universal mail ballots in CO took effect right around the time I was eligible to vote. I've literally never stood in line at a polling location, the worst I've had to do is show up to one to ask where the drop box is. I've never worn pants while filling out a ballot, just on the sheer principle that that's a thing I can do. Agreed. In PA i never had the opportunity to vote by mail until COVID hit. I mail my ballot in like a month ahead of time, it owns so much.
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Dec 4, 2022 09:45
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In MD I took my mother down to our board of elections (closest location to my house) parked, walked in, stated my name and address to one of the 6 people sitting down, got my ballot 30 seconds later, filled it out, put it into the scanning machine, then waited 20 minutes for my mother to fill hers out. all told 30 minutes to vote and most of that was waiting for my mother to finish her ballot.
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Dec 4, 2022 12:53
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In south Florida, I drove by my polling place on the way to the weed store eta: I also stopped to get an iced coffee at 7-11 and I bought a guy in a wheelchair outside a sandwich and a pack of smokes, which is more good returned to the world than any $10 I ever gave to a democrat Lib and let die fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Dec 4, 2022 |
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Dec 4, 2022 13:04
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Cabbit posted:I really thought Trump calling for the US Constitution to be torn up pursuant to him being reinstalled as president would have been a bigger topic of discussion. I was just about to post this. Hey, remember when Obama was going to outlaw elections, tear up the constitution and install himself as king?
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Dec 4, 2022 13:13
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On one hand, Trump President. On the other, no more first or second amendment. Or Fifth.
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Dec 4, 2022 14:30
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Haven’t seen this really yet on the national news circuit yet but it seems an anti-trans/drag show group of crazies shot up a bunch of power substations in Moor County, NC to try and stop a drag show from happening
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Dec 4, 2022 14:57
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Haven’t seen this really yet on the national news circuit yet but it seems an anti-trans/drag show group of crazies shot up a bunch of power substations in Moor County, NC to try and stop a drag show from happening Literally some "It Could Happen Here" poo poo. That's terrorism.
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Dec 4, 2022 15:04
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Cabbit posted:I really thought Trump calling for the US Constitution to be torn up pursuant to him being reinstalled as president would have been a bigger topic of discussion. No, we infact do not do those things. Can we please loving arrest this moron Jesus Christ.
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Dec 4, 2022 15:16
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Haven’t seen this really yet on the national news circuit yet but it seems an anti-trans/drag show group of crazies shot up a bunch of power substations in Moor County, NC to try and stop a drag show from happening If you’re a queer or another demographic of marginalized persons in the US, you need to take steps to defend yourself and organize.
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Dec 4, 2022 15:20
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Automata 10 Pack posted:This is happening after we figuratively won the midterms, imagine if we lost. Imagine what’ll happen if DeSantis wins 2024. They're cowards, they only act when they think they have the upper hand It'll get a hell of a lot worse in 2024 if things slip more
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Dec 4, 2022 15:23
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Gonna love to see the GOP squirm and try to dance around the idea of putting forth and supporting a nominee who said that they should just toss away the thing that is the absolute unconditional job of the office of president to defend, protect and uphold. Like above literally all other things. It's like the absolute most sacred text in the US Government and he's just casually says that it sucks and they should do away with it and now Biden, Jeffries and other key Democrats are already out on the attack and kicking the metaphorical hot potato over to the GOP leadership to deal with and they're going to do something stupid with it obviously like try to essentially eat it while it's literally on fire.
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Dec 4, 2022 16:36
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cr0y posted:No, we infact do not do those things. I mean...I'm sitting here picturing the average conservatives that I know and trying to imagine how the ones that worship this dude like a cult leader can rationalize this. These goobers go on about the constitution as if it were carved on stone tablets and delivered by Moses from on high because AMERICA = GOD and their golden calf idiot greaseball real estate mogul with a reality TV show who used to bang porn stars saying we should suspend it doesn't ruffle a feather. Or I guess it's more fake news (?) and he never said that. Or if he did, he didn't mean it. Or if he meant it, what about Sanders, Michelle Obama, AOC, etc etc? Picture Obama, Clinton or Biden tweeting this. For Trumpists and MAGA's this seems like their local parishioner standing in front of his congregation and saying "You know what? As a matter of fact, gently caress this bible right here. This book is wrong and should be put away until the collection plate fills up faster. Jesus has been very mean and unfair to me." and the entire flock goes "yeah, that book is too liberal. Here, have some more of my money".
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Oxyclean posted:On one hand, Trump President. What's wrong with the fifth amendment?
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BiggerBoat posted:I mean...I'm sitting here picturing the average conservatives that I know and trying to imagine how the ones that worship this dude like a cult leader can rationalize this. These goobers go on about the constitution as if it were carved on stone tablets and delivered by Moses from on high because AMERICA = GOD and their golden calf idiot greaseball real estate mogul with a reality TV show who used to bang porn stars saying we should suspend it doesn't ruffle a feather. Or I guess it's more fake news (?) and he never said that. Or if he did, he didn't mean it. Or if he meant it, what about Sanders, Michelle Obama, AOC, etc etc? It's simple to rationalize. "Democrats broke the Constitution first with their election-stealing conspiracies, so we can't let the Constitution get in the way of protecting the Constitution by defeating them and their anti-constitutional rule at all costs". It's pretty easy to for people to compromise whatever principles they claimed to have if they believe that the other side is an existential threat to those principles. It's not unique to fascists, either - we see it happening all up and down the political spectrum.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:06
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BiggerBoat posted:For Trumpists and MAGA's this seems like their local parishioner standing in front of his congregation and saying "You know what? As a matter of fact, gently caress this bible right here. This book is wrong and should be put away until the collection plate fills up faster. Jesus has been very mean and unfair to me." and the entire flock goes "yeah, that book is too liberal. Here, have some more of my money". So, church.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:07
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The only true stance the GOP and conservatives have is “We are the ones who deserve power and everyone else is a subhuman to be placed under our boot heel”. They only claimed to worship the constitution because they used bullshit constitutional originalism to further solidify their power and anything that clearly went against the constitution they hand waived away as they were interpreting *~the founder’s intent~* even if it directly contradicts what is actually written in the constitution (see anything dealing with imposing evangelical Christian demands vs the separation of church and state). If ditching the constitution means holding on to power, they’ll do it and if Trump has given the GOP anything it’s that he’s shown their base is perfectly fine with saying the quiet parts out loud now
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Dec 4, 2022 17:14
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Main Paineframe posted:It's simple to rationalize. "Democrats broke the Constitution first with their election-stealing conspiracies, so we can't let the Constitution get in the way of protecting the Constitution by defeating them and their anti-constitutional rule at all costs". It's the same reason that 99% of the time when you hear about actual election fraud it's from the Republican side -- they've convinced themselves the Dems are already doing it, so it's ok if they do it too
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Imagine what’ll happen if DeSantis wins 2024. DeSantis is trying to position himself (and this is their metaphor, and I mean that are saying it explicitly) as Joshua to Trump as Moses.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:25
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It can easily be both. Democrats are loving them over, and Republicans are offering racism. It's the only thing on the table. I think it was both too, but I think people's bigotry is the primary reason they voted for Trump. All other reasons were completely secondary.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:38
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VikingofRock posted:What's wrong with the fifth amendment? Nothing; my point was that getting rid of all those things would be an own goal. Trump himself probably has benefitted greatly from the Fifth, and all his followers/supports love the first and second.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:38
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Oxyclean posted:Nothing; my point was that getting rid of all those things would be an own goal. Trump himself probably has benefitted greatly from the Fifth, and all his followers/supports love the first and second. Ummm, I also love the first and fifth amendments? The second I would prefer to be a bit more specific, but the first and fifth are really good ideas.
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https://twitter.com/gopleader/status/1596214855635464192 Reporter: "Hey Kevin, that thing you want to have read aloud in chambers before the first GOP session that is generally already read a gently caress ton in there, your guy Trump says it sucks and they should get rid of it and just make him president again. Any comments? Do you still want the thing read aloud and think that thing is a good thing that should stay around despite what Donald Trump the currently private citizen says?" McCarthy: "Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  "I don't know things really don't seem to be going well for the MAGA republicans and affiliates like Musk, Putin, Alex Jones and friends in the last month. You know despite their protestations that it's going really great and everyone in America and abroad agrees with everything they say all the time including the things that contradict themselves. Kale fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Dec 4, 2022 |
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Dr. VooDoo posted:The only true stance the GOP and conservatives have is “We are the ones who deserve power and everyone else is a subhuman to be placed under our boot heel”. They only claimed to worship the constitution because they used bullshit constitutional originalism to further solidify their power and anything that clearly went against the constitution they hand waived away as they were interpreting *~the founder’s intent~* even if it directly contradicts what is actually written in the constitution (see anything dealing with imposing evangelical Christian demands vs the separation of church and state). Yeah, it's this. Conservatives don't actually care about any of their poo poo and most personally never did except as a tool to further their interests. They can, will and do ditch something the moment they see it as no longer useful. This is one of the reasons why accusations of hypocrisy are utterly useless against them. They don't actually care about of that poo poo and are increasingly sick of pretending when it isn't fun anymore.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I've been having a hard time keeping up with all the news regarding the railway contract situation but is it certain that this congressional passage is actually going to avert a wildcat strike? Could a strike still happen? From a couple of interviews I've heard with workers/union members it unfortunately doesn't sound like there's much appetite for a wildcat strike. There are a lot of workers feeling very worn down and demotivated; even months ago before they voted on the deal it sounds like a pretty common sentiment was "Why even bother to vote, Congress will just screw us over anyway if we reject it". That said, most of those interviews were from the day or two after Biden's announcement so hopefully the recent actions and/or the level of support they've been seeing from people who are like "Wait, they can't call in sick in 2022?" might have galvanized some of them. BTW, I just want to emphasize again that by the rail carriers' own estimates, it would cost literally less than 2% of the profits they'd taken in through September of this year to give into the workers' demands around sick leave - likely right around 1% by the time we get the numbers through December. Just utterly disgusting unbridled corporate greed that our ostensibly pro-union party/president have enabled by undercutting labor at the moment when it had maximum leverage.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:The only true stance the GOP and conservatives have is “We are the ones who deserve power and everyone else is a subhuman to be placed under our boot heel”. Main Paineframe posted:It's simple to rationalize. "Democrats broke the Constitution first with their election-stealing conspiracies, so we can't let the Constitution get in the way of protecting the Constitution by defeating them and their anti-constitutional rule at all costs". Gonna steal that bolded part up there. And these responses remind me again of exactly how much of the MAGA GOP mindset is projection. Like, if you are a thief or an adulterer, you view everyone else and your partner as a stealer and a cheater. They are painting their political opponents as trying to destroy democracy - when that is, in fact what they are doing or attempting to do. Their dear leader is clearly stating here that the constitution they worship is invalid now. Some of the republicans who don't buy it still do the projection thing because it's an old and effective tactic perfected by Karl Rove. And Dr. VooDoo is spot on. When democracy and voters don't do what I want them to do, then it is democracy that is wrong and certain people must not be allowed to vote anymore so we'll invent the concept of mass voter fraud and then pass laws designed to prevent this non existent problem because "hey, whattaya' got against free and fair elections, lib?" Same thing with capitalism, actually. When the free market makes decisions that they dislike, then it's censorship and cancel culture run amok all over their free speech. When private insurance socks them with a massive healthcare bill, well then poo poo, something really needs to be done since this is outrageous. I know, let's limit tort laws!
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theCalamity posted:The workers feel that the Democrats betrayed them and I would, too. Many of these workers have supported Democrats for decades only for the party to stab them in the back. I believe this is going to turn out bad for the democrats in the long run. Union members will now see Democrats as duplicitous and be less likely to vote for them. This is probably the best example of democrats turning their backs on workers so far. I agree with this completely. I was a union member for about 12 years and I absolutely will not be voting for the Democrats in 2024. This is the time when cause needs to lead to effect. If this is the Democratic Party now then I want NO part of it.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:53
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Maybe this is the timeline where Republicans hastily pass a bunch of laws trying to fix “stolen” elections but they accidentally install Al Gore.
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Beast Pussy posted:Ummm, I also love the first and fifth amendments? The second I would prefer to be a bit more specific, but the first and fifth are really good ideas. I'm not sure if anyone on the right is actually backing Trump on this idea, not that it would ever happen. I was just trying to humorously point out that it would be very self-destructive. Honestly, it's just the typical Trump/right "the rules should apply to my enemies but not me" so pointing out this is ultimate pointless.
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Oxyclean posted:Yes those are good things. I think you might be misunderstanding my tone/implication. I'm trying to say the right wing aught to hate the idea of losing those amendments as much or more the anyone else, particularly because they see the first and second as like these pillars to protect them from the evil left wing boogeymen or whatever. That's fair enough, but I personally think that left leaning people have more to lose in a center right to right leaning government than it's more conservative constituents. More what I don't agree on is that the right won't necessarily pick up ideas from this Trumper tantrum. Losing the 5th seems especially on brand for the right, with their "they wouldn't have been arrested if they weren't committing crimes" bit. They won't get rid of the constitution, no matter what Trump says, but it's not unbelievable to think that we're a couple bad elections away from a terrible rewrite.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:The only true stance the GOP and conservatives have is “We are the ones who deserve power and everyone else is a subhuman to be placed under our boot heel”. They only claimed to worship the constitution because they used bullshit constitutional originalism to further solidify their power and anything that clearly went against the constitution they hand waived away as they were interpreting *~the founder’s intent~* even if it directly contradicts what is actually written in the constitution (see anything dealing with imposing evangelical Christian demands vs the separation of church and state). "The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
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