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Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


My favourite Bar Sinister play right now is using Viper turn 2. The end result is one Viper on your side and three on their side. Normally followed by a Debrii turn 3.

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bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

I’ve played Scorpion on Bar Sinister only to get retreats most of the time

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

bobjr posted:

I’ve played Scorpion on Bar Sinister only to get retreats most of the time

I can see doing this. The value play here is snap on like turn 2 and then play him on turn 3 or 4 when your opponent has more cards and/or a better chance of their high card play. At least then when they retreat it's 2 cubes so it's like an unsnapped win.

I had a match a while ago where one of the locations was luke's bar and my opponent played ice man there on 1, scorpion on 2 and then both on turn three and I didn't stick around for what other bullshit they had planned.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


This has been a good opportunity to really try out my Patriot deck. Dropping him on Bar Sinister and then playing Mystique next turn sure makes the numbers go big

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

Opopanax posted:

This has been a good opportunity to really try out my Patriot deck. Dropping him on Bar Sinister and then playing Mystique next turn sure makes the numbers go big

Both times I've done that I've played patriot turn 3 and they have played enchantress turn 4

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Dravs posted:

Both times I've done that I've played patriot turn 3 and they have played enchantress turn 4

I am getting lucky in that I've been running a Patriot deck these past two days and I only got an Enchantress once.

That said, I think I prefer dropping Blue Patriot onto the bar and Patriot + Mystique + Ultron in the neighbouring cell.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Yeah, I feel like Blue Marvel on Bar is the play usually. The value add on him is too good to pass up.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Dravs posted:

Both times I've done that I've played patriot turn 3 and they have played enchantress turn 4

I usually wait for turn 5. You risk a Green Goblin but you protect yourself from stuff like that and Shang Chi

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Psyker posted:

Adapted the moneyshot Bar Sinister Onslaught strategy to Wong.

Nightcrawler -> move 3 -> Wong -> move last Nightcrawler -> drop a solution.

Wong is still exponential so it’s 8 On Reveal triggers.

Fill the board with tigers or watch ironheart drop 48 power randomly or make 4^8 black panther or whatever - using all your normal win cons anyway.

Are you sure it's 8 triggers? I've tried Wong + Nightcrawler on turn 5, followed by a Tiger next turn. It only did 6 reveals. There were enough slots for seven tigers.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Wong would never be exponential, each one just makes On Reveals happen twice, there’s nothing there that would do any doubling

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
D.estroy value with yondu on bar sinister
E.ngage in other lanes
N.eglect to play cards turn 2-3
I.nspire hope by dropping killmonger
S.era bar sinister
S.nap

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!
Interesting Bar Sinister interaction:

If you have 1 card there already and you drop a Goblin on it, you end up with 4 Goblins on the other side and none on yours.

So it's even better than putting a Goblin on an empty Bar Sinister.

(Obviously assuming the opponent's side is empty.)


Edit: another one I just saw. I don't have Luke Cage yet, but an interesting fact: since he's ongoing, he's actually retroactive. The actual interaction that happened was Venom eating a bunch of Goblins, eventually going to -36 or something. Luke Cage played after the fact removed all the negative power and he ended up as +1.

uXs fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Dec 4, 2022

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
holy poo poo Galactus might be the most fun card in the game, been having an absolute blast playing him

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


What kind of sadastic psycho plays Cable on Bar Sinister?

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Opopanax posted:

What kind of sadastic psycho plays Cable on Bar Sinister?

I saw someone else do this too! Weird move, didn’t even have a collector down.

Barry Bluejeans
Feb 2, 2017

ATTENTHUN THITIZENTH
I was having fun and getting good results with a movement deck but it's really hard to make that work in a Bar Sinister meta. Switched back to my big hand deck and have been doing much better, which is as follows:

(1) Agent 13
(1) Mantis
(2) The Collector
(2) Cable
(2) Okoye
(3) Nakia
(4) Shang-Chi
(4) Moon Girl
(4) White Queen
(5) Devil Dinosaur
(5) Gamora
(6) Arnim Zola

I don't love my early game as it stands, I'm considering swapping out Mantis for Iceman and Gamora for a three-drop. Doesn't seem like I have any that add synergy to my deck so I'm thinking of going with Punisher or Cosmo.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Opopanax posted:

What kind of sadastic psycho plays Cable on Bar Sinister?

The kind that doesn't own Death, so they can play Yondu there and clean it out again with Skillmonger.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
Aw, it could be more cruel than that.

Turn 1 Yondu.
Turn 2 Cloak.
Turn 3 Cable.

Or maybe Moon Knight would be more effective on 3.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Dec 4, 2022

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

doingitwrong posted:

This is my current favorite version of the daredevil/aero/prof x control deck. I call it “Foresight”.

:words:

I am on the lookout for replacements for Iceman, Lizard, and Gamora. I am very interested in opening Magneto. I’d love to try Wasp because there have been a lot of games where being able to add 1 more power on the Professor X turn or similar would have really mattered.

Love this writeup. I can't wait to open Juggernaut, he seems so clutch for this deck. And I still also feel like Gamora is lacking. I may try Vision instead, who doesn't have the Turn 5 reaction synergy but seems in line with the "move and play where they ain't" theme. Vision on 5 if you don't have a good Prof X or Aero play, and move him on 6 while also dropping Aero or Magneto on T6 for lots of misdirection.

Polaris seems like she could fit well here, decent power for tempo and an effect that fits the deck's theme. Same with Kingpin. Would happily try either card when I get them. Magneto is so clutch when you get him, he plays very well here and notably pulls both Storm and her often-partner Jessica Jones.

This is what I'm working with, calling it "Chaos Control". The destruction package is awkward but works enough for now, although I'll happily slot it out when I get any of the cards I'm looking for. Electro seems like he has a place here but I'm already so stretched for low-energy power I don't think I can run him.

# (1) Nova
# (2) Bucky Barnes
# (2) Daredevil
# (2) Lizard
# (3) Cosmo
# (3) Killmonger
# (3) Deathlok
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (5) Professor X
# (5) Gamora
# (5) Aero
# (6) Magneto
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Burginator
Sep 10, 2007

Two ALL BEEF patties,
Special Sauce?
Let Us Cheese.
Bar Sinister has to be my favourite spot in rotation just because of the sheer volume of games I win by dropping a moon knight on the space. As long as I'm not against another discard deck this is just hilarious

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Donnerberg posted:

Aw, it could be more cruel than that.

Turn 1 Yondu.
Turn 2 Cloak.
Turn 3 Cable.

Or maybe Moon Knight would be more effective on 3.

This is a really fun play.

It’s certainly got room for improvement but right now I’m rolling with the following. Venom gets very very big.

# (1) Iron Fist
# (1) Nightcrawler
# (1) Yondu
# (2) The Collector
# (2) Cable
# (2) Armor
# (2) Cloak
# (3) Venom
# (3) Killmonger
# (4) Moon Girl
# (6) America Chavez
# (9) Death
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Scrap Dragon
Oct 6, 2013

SECRET TECHNIQUE:
DARK SHADOW
BLACK FALLEN ANGEL!


How much longer is Bar Sinister gonna be the hot location? I do not have the Series 3 cards necessary to take advantage of it

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
Friendly heads up, Mystique may say "On Reveal: If the last card you played has an Ongoing ability, this card gains it." but it should have "and loses this ability."

JFC does the wording need a few more passes.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

PJOmega posted:

Friendly heads up, Mystique may say "On Reveal: If the last card you played has an Ongoing ability, this card gains it." but it should have "and loses this ability."

JFC does the wording need a few more passes.

when does this matter? not being snarky, curious

Scrap Dragon
Oct 6, 2013

SECRET TECHNIQUE:
DARK SHADOW
BLACK FALLEN ANGEL!


PJOmega posted:

Friendly heads up, Mystique may say "On Reveal: If the last card you played has an Ongoing ability, this card gains it." but it should have "and loses this ability."

JFC does the wording need a few more passes.

So wait, if the card she's copying loses it's ability then she does too?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


PJOmega posted:

Friendly heads up, Mystique may say "On Reveal: If the last card you played has an Ongoing ability, this card gains it." but it should have "and loses this ability."

JFC does the wording need a few more passes.

She doesn’t lose it, it’s an on reveal, it activates and ends

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
I think it's that mystique doesn't get an ability twice if she activates twice

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

flatluigi posted:

I think it's that mystique doesn't get an ability twice if she activates twice

It's this. No Wong/Kamar Taj fun.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Scrap Dragon posted:

So wait, if the card she's copying loses it's ability then she does too?

If it loses the ongoing ability before she reveals (say from Enchantress) then she won't gain it.

Once she has gained the ongoing ability she won't lose it if the source loses it.

Not sure if the previous card being destroyed before she is revealed will prevent the copy.

Scrap Dragon
Oct 6, 2013

SECRET TECHNIQUE:
DARK SHADOW
BLACK FALLEN ANGEL!


PJOmega posted:

If it loses the ongoing ability before she reveals (say from Enchantress) then she won't gain it.

Once she has gained the ongoing ability she won't lose it if the source loses it.

Not sure if the previous card being destroyed before she is revealed will prevent the copy.

Ah okay, I knew about that first interaction. Thankfully it's only happened once but I did get rudely sniped by an opponent's Rogue that flipped before my Mystique did

Toebone
Jul 1, 2002

Start remembering what you hear.
Odin on Bar Sinister is terrible, I love it

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


I'm liking Bar Sinister not gonna lie

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

I think Mystique also suffers from the Dark Dimension thing where it will count a card flipped over on Dark Dimension as the most recently "played" even if you played it before another card.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I wish you could just disable the emoticons because I find them aggravating. Just let me believe I am being beaten by bots instead of sassy tweens!!

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Tekopo posted:

I'm liking Bar Sinister not gonna lie



Funny, I was about to say how much I'm getting sick of this. Turn one Nightcrawler into a shitload of zoo buffers, or one zoo buffer and three Onslaughts every other game is real loving dull and I'm not sure what the counterplay is other to do it myself or ignore Bar Sinister entirely unless I've got an Enchantress. And doing that leaves me wide open to getting Green Goblin spammed.

Might just sit the rest of this hot location out.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009



Hot locations are both the best and the worst thing about Marvel Snap.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

priznat posted:

I wish you could just disable the emoticons because I find them aggravating. Just let me believe I am being beaten by bots instead of sassy tweens!!

Nothing gets me more red and mad than a Kamala thumbs up or a "Snap?" right after I get owned. I'm such a mark for trolling.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
The thumbs up emote is just super toxic. I mute every time I snap now.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009



On the other hand, nothing makes me happier than when my opponent and I both pull out the Spider-Man point emoji after playing the same card.

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Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

No Wave posted:

The thumbs up emote is just super toxic. I mute every time I snap now.

They should replace it with "I'm using tilt controls!"

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