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deep dish peat moss posted:Difficulty 4 is weird because there's no mechanical incentive to do it once you hit level 30 - it gives more money and xp but you largely stop needing money at 30 and you definitely stop needing xp. For whatever reason it still seems to have the highest success rate of any public missions I run because I imagine people who are playing at 4* are doing it because they find the challenge fun and not because they're biting off more than they can chew in the name of rewards. But the queues have always been a bit long for it compared to 1-3 I like playing it right now because people are aggressive, don't take too much damage, and play together. It's fun and challenging without being punishing. I do think the whole thing needs a balance pass though. Vets are just too good. The other classes have things they can do that are good and helpful, but I'm still pretty sure an "optimal" team is like 4 vets with various ranged weapons and power swords. Maybe you'd run out of ammo, I don't know, but at least 2 good vets makes the mission go a lot smoother
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CuddleCryptid posted:Infinite multiplayer games like Call of Duty or F2P like fortnite broke the brains of a lot of people, to the point if they don't get 2000 hrs out of a sixty dollar purchase then it's a scam. If I put 20 hours into a game we're even as far as I am concerned. Yeah, it's been a bit of a shock - I don't think I've bought a game on launch since uhhh borderlands 2 on the 360? I'm glad I mainly post here and you're all as reasonable (or as out of touch) as I am.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the game had nailed the visual and auditory aspects of the 41st millennium so hard, the music slaps, and it feels super good to chop four zombies in half at once or blast a heretic into chowder from the waist up. I don’t care about anything else. The combat feel is :chefkiss: , you can notice it's the third iteration of the same concept, and at this point they have great mastery over it, the know how to polish it to a sheen.
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psyker rules and when I finish the penances for that I'll work on veteran or something plenty to entertain for me
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The bolter is just the most ridiculous thing. https://i.imgur.com/HE9m7d7.mp4
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i never thought they'd top space marine re: bolters but here we are
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I've been getting increasingly weird bugs in Darktide. Right now the game plays at 5 FPS even on medium settings, but if I alt-tab to something else it goes back up to 60 in the background.  At least it isn't crashing anymore? This is on a i7-10700k + RTX 3080 btw.
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to give you a sense a perspective a bolter for humans is basically an inferior bolt pistol for astartes
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I haven’t yet played with a weapon that felt bad. The heavy sword was kinda meh but everything else has been ace.
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This is definitely a game I can see people coming back to a year later and there being more maps and weapons, a finished crafting system, and hopefully more classes and it being like night and day. The core gameplay is so solid but most of this stuff wasn't ready for launch which sucks. The support VT2 got means I'm not worried about the longevity of this game but I'm sure it'll take a while to get there just like VT2 did.
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tbh the only thing that's gonna annoy me is them charging for subclasses like these World of Warcraft circa 2012 talent trees are this rich, valuable experience
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explosivo posted:This is definitely a game I can see people coming back to a year later and there being more maps and weapons, a finished crafting system, and hopefully more classes and it being like night and day. The core gameplay is so solid but most of this stuff wasn't ready for launch which sucks. The support VT2 got means I'm not worried about the longevity of this game but I'm sure it'll take a while to get there just like VT2 did.
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DreadUnknown posted:As far as VT2, they added stuff over time, then put out the not great Winds of Magic thing. I read something that said the Darktide crafting system was scrapped and they started over about halfway through development. Eh, in VT2 the original 13 missions are all there (3 Acts of 4 missions, with the Skittergate finale). And they were chock full of memorable moments. There's ringing the bell at Righteous Stand to summon the horde. There's the cliffside path to Halescourge with the shifting cliffs and then the fight itself. There's the finale of Fort Brachsenbrücke and the cannon (a standard 'carry the heavy thing to the place' finale mechanic but with flavour you remember), there is escorting the battering ram through the Rotblood warcamp so you can fight the warchief there. And then there's the Skittergate mission, which is all kinds of fantastic. I can't think of a single Darktide mission 'moment' that leaps out in the memory like those do.
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quickplayed into a game where players had somehow forced their way into a monster closet. they could see out but couldn't leave
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victrix posted:(or uh, b4b? did they do anything with that? man I haven't thought about that game in a year) B4B got some content. They changed up the card system so that you start with the full deck loaded instead of picking one card every round. But most people ended up hating the randomized Hive system and you can still end up stuck in a safe room for up to 3 minutes because a pub on your team went afk the second they hit quickplay. There's some big content drop coming soon.
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as buggy and undercooked as darktide/vermintide 2/fatshark games in general feel at least they're fun to play. i remember my brief try of back 4 blood just feeling like a pale, clunky, crummy imitation of left 4 dead
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Yeah even comparing launch VT2 to launch Darktide, I think VT2 was more complete of a game. Did they advertise anything in VT2 leading up to release that wasn't in release? I've got 69 hours in Darktide (lol) and while I've had a lot of fun, I like the game, and I don't regret spending the $40... there is a ton of valid criticism to be had. If someone doesn't care about that criticism, that's fine, but it doesn't make the criticism invalid. POSITIVES: + Fun and engaging combat that does a good job of mixing up melee and ranged through a run, regardless of how you're specced + Enemy variety, both aesthetically and mechanically, is pretty good and on par with VT2 + Looks and sounds very 40k, all the aesthetics are strong, good soundtrack + Fatshark are fuckups but they are communicative and I like them NEGATIVES: - Feature-incomplete (promotional material showed guns that aren't in the game, crafting is like 25% available, etc) - Horrifically buggy and crash-happy for an enormous amount of users, way more than is usual for a new release. Objectively unacceptable for a product you are charging money for - While the voice work is good, the dialogue itself is generic as a consequence of there being ~12 different personalities or whatever. In VT2 your party had conversations - in Darktide it is more the norm that three people say things that are clearly written so as to be generic enough to be used regardless of party composition. Would be less of a big deal if VT2 hadn't really knocked it out of the park in this area, it feels like a step backwards - Drop rate for new gear is bad compared to VT2 which would let you open a chest every run for the first few dozen hours of the game. A store rotating every hour to give you FOMO if you aren't checking is a HUGE step backwards both mechanically and in terms of respecting your players - Only four classes. VT2 had, what, 15 at release? I don't understand why there are so few. 6 talent tiers, some passive bonuses, and a unique ult. I understand coding is a lot of work but this seems like it would have been a good place to spend some energy - Cash shop with scummy mobile pricing structure and currently no way to earn the paid currency in-game (which was promised). This made it into the game while a host of more important things went unfixed. Weird, I wonder why - Very little variety in map environments, objectives, set pieces, and boss fights - Weapons with multiple versions that are difficult to distinguish from one another, even when looking at their stats screen (how about a couple lines about how this is the gun with a few more shots in the mag, this one has a bit bigger range, this one has better sights, etc. dont make me guess). This is compounded by some weapons, and sometimes entire weapon types, being straight dogshit compared to others In summary - game is fun. Game is also unacceptably broken, imbalanced, and unfinished. Both of these things are true. I know they will pull up eventually like they did with VT2 but it's crazy how they found a way to start at an even LOWER point than VT2 and people will still defend this product.
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Thinking about picking this up, did they fix the bug where controller settings reset every launch?
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Christ, don't even compare this game to B4B. I wanted to like B4B a lot but talk about a game that felt like it was designed by people who had nothing but contempt for their players, drat... And that's saying a lot, considering how some special spawns can feel like in a Fatshark game!
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I am liking this enough that I'm now regretting not picking of the VT2 bundle from a few months back. Also agree with vets being kind of overpowered. I mean, that base toughness on top of everything doesn't really make sense to me.
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There's numerous issues with weapons, special enemy design, itemization etc but I'm honestly finding things much less broken than expected. The gameplay actually works for the most part, whereas VT2 was broken as poo poo when it launched. I have not seen things like this in my darktide matches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj2J6DWPSqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McX2x8iWb9Y
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Anyone having issues with your account being credited with the twitch drops?
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So what exactly do the "+X% Power" blessings do?
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I want to buy different versions of the Zealot penance gear and the ones I want just don't seem to be available for different skins. That sucks.
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I love the power fantasy of Psyker, but I don't think the class is for me. I feel like with Ogryn and Veteran, I can carry a cursed team to victory, but I can't do that with Psyker. Your power is too limited and specialized to save a team that's failing at its various jobs.GruntyThrst posted:Anyone having issues with your account being credited with the twitch drops? I got the first three from previous days, but the autogun from yesterday hasn't shown up in my inventory yet.
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I think the key to Psyker, and what I've found to carry the baddie rando's, is getting a deflection force blade and the kinetic feat to block bullets, with enough block cost reduction on curio's or the sword you be better at picking up downed teammates than a ogyn. Also block reduction might be the trait to pick up on everyone just for how useful it is for picking up people.
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Idgi, can you hold block while picking a teammate up???
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Pharmaskittle posted:Idgi, can you hold block while picking a teammate up??? Yeah
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o poo poo!!
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I feel like even without my level 30 talent the sheer destructive power that is chaincasting half charged voidstrikes has made most of my psyker runs easier than my vet ones. You can fire them point blank and clear hordes better than melee weapons can until theres enough free room to headpop anything thats tough enough to survive that. You can throw them at your teamates to catch enemies near them in the splash and then finish them off. You can dodge backwards and kite lines of chasing enemies together into big clumps to destroy them easier. You can spam them into large mixed groups of heavy armor enemies to keep them stunned. Very jack of all trades tool.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I think the key to Psyker, and what I've found to carry the baddie rando's, is getting a deflection force blade and the kinetic feat to block bullets, with enough block cost reduction on curio's or the sword you be better at picking up downed teammates than a ogyn. Psyker with peril block and force sword is actually quite tanky in a pinch and can deal with a sudden pack of gunners or whatever. The biggest problem is snipers will still shoot you through it
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Corruption resistance is a weird stat. I got like +15% from a trinket and it cut my corruption from grimoires by more than half.
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Awesome, started a game and two people immediately start making george floyd jokes. Man gently caress people
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Gameslantern just got loving replaced. There's a Darktide Wiki with detailed stat breakdowns available for many obscure stats and updated perk lists for weapons.
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just bought a level 340 grey hammer from the broker. time to finally spend that diamantine
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Just did three missions, only one counted toward my weekly tasks. Super obnoxious, has anyone found out what causes that yet?
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:just bought a level 340 grey hammer from the broker. time to finally spend that diamantine what's the highest item budget you can get to stats? 350? 380?
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litany of gulps posted:Just did three missions, only one counted toward my weekly tasks. Super obnoxious, has anyone found out what causes that yet? Did you join any in progress? thats the only thing ive heard that breaks it terrorist ambulance posted:what's the highest item budget you can get to stats? 350? 380? Ive seen greys at 380 in the shop Nehru the Damaja posted:I love the power fantasy of Psyker, but I don't think the class is for me. I feel like with Ogryn and Veteran, I can carry a cursed team to victory, but I can't do that with Psyker. Your power is too limited and specialized to save a team that's failing at its various jobs. Had the same issue while leveling today, failed more missions than ive ever done on vet just because so many of the teams were really stupid. Almost failed a scanner mission where my team was running around not scanning on the floor above where all the scan targets were, like wtf guys cmon lol I was running dueling saber and i did save 1 3 down scenario by endlessly dodging backwards while waiting for my peril to cool down which was fun Jerkface fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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I think the big issue with Psyker is that they're kind of a force multiplier. A lot of their abilities are not crucial but do make runs much easier - things like tying up big mobs with fire or lightning, breaking up clusters of ranged enemies with fireball, popping heads too far for other players to reach. They aren't self sufficient. And in a weird way, they're kind of like support in that they mostly make it slightly easier for other classes to do their jobs. I know as a Zealot I appreciate have half the mob I'm working on electrified because that means I'm not going to get hit in the back. I appreciate having the gunner or reaper I didn't see have their head popped. I can deal with those threats but having Psyker Middle Manager there to help direct the flow of combat is very helpful.
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big cummers ONLY posted:- While the voice work is good, the dialogue itself is generic as a consequence of there being ~12 different personalities or whatever. In VT2 your party had conversations - in Darktide it is more the norm that three people say things that are clearly written so as to be generic enough to be used regardless of party composition. Would be less of a big deal if VT2 hadn't really knocked it out of the park in this area, it feels like a step backwards Part of this is the fact that the system is designed so that you can take multiple copies of the same character on missions. VT2 has stronger characterization, but that came at the cost of limiting you to one Kruber, one Elf, etc. IMO this is a net plus, because I can play ogryn every time I want to play ogryn and never end up having to choose between playing something else or playing with bots.
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