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The Dolphins out gained the Vikings 458 to 234 and lost by 8. (with a Bridgewater/Skylar combo at QB) The Vikings aren't very good at football but they are good at winning games they probably don't deserve to. Though thinking about it now, they swept the best division in football so maybe they are good?
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:One team has Josh Allen. if he got outplayed by zach wilson how good is he really? makes you think
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TheBizzness posted:The Dolphins out gained the Vikings 458 to 234 and lost by 8. (with a Bridgewater/Skylar combo at QB) They have a terrible defense, a mediocre at best QB and one all world WR. Very weird team. They are 100% losing their first round playoff game. It would be cool to be in a division where you just get a bye into the playoffs and a home playoff game lol
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Dec 5, 2022 17:47
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Josh Allen is good but he has not been playing at the elite level that he was last year.
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Dec 5, 2022 17:48
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I think Allen's been better this season than he was last year. His gently caress off incredible postseason has kind of obscured that he didn't even make the initial Pro Bowl roster last year (though that was a joke).
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Dec 5, 2022 17:53
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Like if you told be before the game we'd outgain them 486-287, Jefferson would be held to 45 yards, Kirk would have a 4.9 Y/A, and Garrett Wilson would go off for 162 I'd have assumed it was Jets in a blowout. Kirk was top 5 in QBR though.
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mcmagic posted:They have a terrible defense, a mediocre at best QB and one all world WR. Very weird team. They are 100% losing their first round playoff game. It would be cool to be in a division where you just get a bye into the playoffs and a home playoff game lol They also have two stud RBs in Cook and Mattison that can in theory keep the ball out of Cousin’s hands but usually don’t? Weird team.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Like if you told be before the game we'd outgain them 486-287, Jefferson would be held to 45 yards, Kirk would have a 4.9 Y/A, and Garrett Wilson would go off for 162 I'd have assumed it was Jets in a blowout. The more I think about that game the more depressing it gets that they lost. Jets were the better team for most of the game. I loving HATE shotgun on the one yard line so loving much. Bellmaker posted:They also have two stud RBs in Cook and Mattison that can in theory keep the ball out of Cousin’s hands but usually don’t? Weird team.
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Dec 5, 2022 17:57
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I didnt realize the Jets also had almost 500 yards of offense while holding the Vikes under 300. Thats silly.
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Dec 5, 2022 18:07
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This is a bad miss by Mike White. Wilson cooks Patrick Peterson for a would be 86 yarder. Kid is the best WR I've ever seen the Jets draft. https://twitter.com/BoyGreen25/status/1599614682754449408
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Diva Cupcake posted:This is a bad miss by Mike White. Wilson cooks Patrick Peterson for a would be 86 yarder. Pain
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Dec 5, 2022 18:15
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That was a bad miss but he still led them down the field and put them in position to win after that
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And also I don't think Wilson beats that safety.
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fsif posted:And also I don't think Wilson beats that safety.
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Dec 5, 2022 18:25
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mcmagic posted:It's reasonable to say the Jets are slightly worse than the bills and both teams should've beat the lovely overrated lucksack Vikings. I do think the Bills loss is worse because how the gently caress do you fumble a snap there. Hey, screw you pal! Our offense and special teams are in no way overrated. No, I didn't forget anything. Don't look over there, at least not until the last two minutes.
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Dec 5, 2022 18:25
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:Zach Wilson probably air-mails or turfs the throw anyway LOL he's loving bad. Garrett Wilson is the receiver 
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Dec 5, 2022 18:26
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mcmagic posted:They have a terrible defense, a mediocre at best QB and one all world WR. Very weird team. They are 100% losing their first round playoff game. It would be cool to be in a division where you just get a bye into the playoffs and a home playoff game lol lol at poo poo talking the Vikings division schedule when they swept the AFC East.
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https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1599826176834293760?s=46&t=hu_jOB0Kar5OtTR7AOzT-g Yes!!! Hahaha… yes!! bring tua into the cold on a short week.
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Wtf why you doin this nfl? You trying to freeze my pineapple?
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NFL cheating once again for its favorite franchise, the Buffalo Bills.
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Belichick not moving off Patricia this season as playcaller.quote:Appearing on WEEI’s The Greg Hill Show on Monday morning, head coach Bill Belichick said that the team is too far along in the process to do that.
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Dec 5, 2022 19:46
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YOLOsubmarine posted:lol at poo poo talking the Vikings division schedule when they swept the AFC East. Who cares? The next best team in their division is 5-7...
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Dec 5, 2022 20:13
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I have tickets to a concert on the 17th so I won’t have to watch the Bills get their revenge. Tg.
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mcmagic posted:Who cares? The next best team in their division is 5-7... They’ve beaten more teams in your division than their own.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:They’ve beaten more teams in your division than their own. quote:20. Minnesota Vikings
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Diva Cupcake posted:Isn't his point that the Vikings are sleepwalking to a home playoff game and possible bye primarily because of the shittiness of their own division? Eloquence aside, is that wrong? They haven’t even played half of their division schedule. You can’t really accuse them of sleepwalking to their current record when they have twice as many wins over teams with a winning record as, say, the Bills. They’re winning ugly but they’re winning and it’s not exclusively against bad teams. The NFC East and AFC East is a pretty tough draw. The Lions and Packers look more dangerous than they did at the beginning of the year as well while New England and Miami are looking worse as the year goes on. I don’t think their SoS is bad at all, especially compared to the Jets.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:They haven’t even played half of their division schedule. You can’t really accuse them of sleepwalking to their current record when they have twice as many wins over teams with a winning record as, say, the Bills. For record, Minnesota has the 3rd hardest SoS by DVOA up until now. The Jets have had the 4th hardest. Neither have been bad.
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mcmagic posted:They have a terrible defense, a mediocre at best QB and one all world WR. Very weird team. They are 100% losing their first round playoff game. It would be cool to be in a division where you just get a bye into the playoffs and a home playoff game lol Is mcmagic here talking about the Vikings or the Raiders? Who could tell, they're identical teams with comically different records. Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Belichick not moving off Patricia this season as playcaller. I mean, who would they move to right now? It's December, it was a hosed decision, but they're stuck with it for a month and they fire Patricia immediately or the fans gonna get real rowdy.
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Kalli posted:I mean, who would they move to right now? It's December, it was a hosed decision, but they're stuck with it for a month and they fire Patricia immediately or the fans gonna get real rowdy. Pretty much. Damage has already been done.
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Diva Cupcake posted:It's not a matter of SoS. The sleepwalking to the home playoff game is reference to having no competition within their own division standings. They’re 10-2. That record pretty much always puts you in the drivers seat for a home game. They’re a good team in a weak division but based on who they’ve played they’d probably be looking at a home game and possible bye even if they were in another division.
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fsif posted:I think Allen's been better this season than he was last year. His gently caress off incredible postseason has kind of obscured that he didn't even make the initial Pro Bowl roster last year (though that was a joke). yeah, Allen's had a run of not good games this season that are hopefully explained to one extent or another by the elbow injury, but his lows last year were unquestionably worse. his complete dismantling of the patriots in the wildcard and his unreal game against KC have made people completely forget
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The Vikings are a slightly above average team in a bad division who has caught some lucky breaks to be 10-2 instead of 7-5
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I think the Jimmy G injury makes it more likely he's a Jet next season. He's not going to get NEARLY as much money now. If White plays this well for the rest of the year, I think it would be reasonable to bring him back and Jimmy G and let them fight it out in TC after firing Wilson directly into the sun.
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Nodoze posted:The Vikings are a slightly above average team in a bad division who has caught some lucky breaks to be 10-2 instead of 7-5 Every team that wins a lot of games caught lucky breaks to get there, even the really good ones. And relative to the standard of the league this year the Vikings are better than above average. There’s a lot of really bad football teams out there.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Every team that wins a lot of games caught lucky breaks to get there, even the really good ones. He just listed a plethora of the stats that matter and they are pretty average in most of them. It's a "fine" team with a horseshoe up their rear end.
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Kalli posted:Is mcmagic here talking about the Vikings or the Raiders? Who could tell, they're identical teams with comically different records. I think Belichick is going to be in a similar situation to Saleh. The players are clearly becoming increasingly upset with how the offense is being run. You've already seen guys getting chippy and taking potshots at playcalling and execution. How much longer will they keep playing hard when the offense repeatedly lays turds and gives them no chance to win. He might have to make a move just to keep things under control. As to who? The only other name that's been thrown around is Nick Caley, the TE coach.
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The Pats don't have any good offensive players other than Stevenson. The idea that their offense should be that much better than it has been this season seems pretty dumb.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I think Belichick is going to be in a similar situation to Saleh. The players are clearly becoming increasingly upset with how the offense is being run. You've already seen guys getting chippy and taking potshots at playcalling and execution. How much longer will they keep playing hard when the offense repeatedly lays turds and gives them no chance to win. The two players (that I'm aware of) that have been publicly critical of the scheme are Mac Jones and Kendrick Bourne—who also both happen to be players that have been benched. Incredible that their discipline didn't take.
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mcmagic posted:The Pats don't have any good offensive players other than Stevenson. The idea that their offense should be that much better than it has been this season seems pretty dumb. A nearly identical offensive roster was #6 in points and #9 in offensive DVOA last season. They don't have any world beaters besides Stevenson, but they have a big middle class of guys who are all decent role players.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:A nearly identical offensive roster was #6 in points and #9 in offensive DVOA last season. They don't have any world beaters besides Stevenson, but they have a big middle class of guys who are all decent role players. Sligthly better OC, Mac Jones before the league figured him out ect. https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1599849745882746887 Also PFF just HATES Sauce.
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