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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Namtab posted:

US politics has no place here!!

...Yet :tinfoil:

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Namtab posted:

US politics has no place here!!

This is politics free, like anime and manga itself. :smuggo:

Schubalts posted:

Worked for Ken Akamatsu over in Japan.

The Negima guy? Dare I ask?

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Dawgstar posted:

The Negima guy? Dare I ask?

He's kind of a conservative "the woke mob is trying to censor our manga!" guy. Although I don't think the policies he supports seemed too extreme.

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




he directly lobbied against a law in 2014 that would have amended japans child porn laws to include fictional depictions and lolicon/shotacon stuff, and his work was a direct reason why that law failed

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

Paper Lion posted:

he directly lobbied against a law in 2014 that would have amended japans child porn laws to include fictional depictions and lolicon/shotacon stuff, and his work was a direct reason why that law failed

I hadn't heard about that. tho lolicon has been illegal since over 10 years before that. The original law was the reason why these days every child in anime is technically a 300 year old dragon.
That law is only enforced against gay porn, which is why nobody notices it.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

ninjewtsu posted:

what uh

what freedom of expression in media specifically is he championing

This conversation is everything I know about akamatsu as a politician and based off of this limited information the picture i have is a little horrifying

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




VictualSquid posted:

I hadn't heard about that. tho lolicon has been illegal since over 10 years before that. The original law was the reason why these days every child in anime is technically a 300 year old dragon.
That law is only enforced against gay porn, which is why nobody notices it.
the 300 year old dragon witch stuff is mostly a marketability/plausable deniability thing for corporately products, akamatsus concern was squarely oriented towards the doujin scene in particular where there is an abundance of straight up child pornography being produced in volume.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Paper Lion posted:

the 300 year old dragon witch stuff is mostly a marketability/plausable deniability thing for corporately products, akamatsus concern was squarely oriented towards the doujin scene in particular where there is an abundance of straight up child pornography being produced in volume.

Hell of a hill to die on. What do ya' call this act?

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

horny is prohibited

Happy Landfill posted:

Hell of a hill to die on. What do ya' call this act?

"A successful bid for office in the National Diet", apparently. He won and has held office since July.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Cassius Belli posted:

"A successful bid for office in the National Diet", apparently. He won and has held office since July.

So, in other words;

The Aristocrats! :downsrim:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

tbh every time anything like this comes up the jp government goes 'youre right, we SHOULD ban the gay stuff.' like that 2014 thing was kicked off by a (het) middle schooler/their teacher manga iirc and the manga itself didnt get banned but a bunch of fairly benign gay stuff got pulled, lol. if that law had passed it would 100% be enforced like that rather than actually hitting the creepshit.

Ultraklystron
May 19, 2010

Unsafe At Every Speed
Well, I guess this happened:

https://twitter.com/worldofcrap/status/1599868927915720709

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

what happened now

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Yeah, I saw that too. On a couple of levels, I guess. Didn't want to link to it because it's a genuine content warning but it's not hard to find.

For the curious, Vic is on stream with three women and then, with an impish look, adjusts his camera to point down and show he's only wearing underwear. The three women are, understandably, shocked and quickly cut the feed and then start to laugh.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.


For context:

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1599852937685372928

(Not NWS except you see a bit of Vic's thighs, but spoilered all the same.)

Ultraklystron
May 19, 2010

Unsafe At Every Speed

Neito posted:

For context:

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1599852937685372928

(Not NWS except you see a bit of Vic's thighs, but spoilered all the same.)

Link stays blue.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Ultraklystron posted:

Link stays blue.

If just for not having to see Vic impisly smile, wiggle his eyebrows, and have a smug face all-around.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I don't think this helps the continued appeals of his defamation case, the argument being made in which that he is not a sexual predator

Ultraklystron
May 19, 2010

Unsafe At Every Speed

Waffleman_ posted:

I don't think this helps the continued appeals of his defamation case, the argument being made in which that he is not a sexual predator

Agreed 100%. I don't know if they can enter in any new evidence at this point (not a lawyer, someone fill me in) but if they could, this is easily as bad if not worse than his own deposition where he mimed the hair pulling movement unprompted.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
why are they even talking to him

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Ultraklystron posted:

Agreed 100%. I don't know if they can enter in any new evidence at this point (not a lawyer, someone fill me in) but if they could, this is easily as bad if not worse than his own deposition where he mimed the hair pulling movement unprompted.

They cannot, which is part of why the entire appeal is entirely pointless and cannot succeed to begin with - their appeal relied on…entering new evidence.

Which was itself not helpful or good or worth anything but it is what it relied on.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Neito posted:

If just for not having to see Vic impisly smile, wiggle his eyebrows, and have a smug face all-around.

As has been pointed out if this is the stuff he does on camera imagine (or don't, that's best) what Vic gets up to behind closed doors.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Alan Smithee posted:

why are they even talking to him

Same reason any right-wing idiot does anything: trigger the libs.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Neito posted:

Same reason any right-wing idiot does anything: trigger the libs.

I'm surprised they were able to get 3 women who are not like other girls to talk to each other

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
I never thought the leopards would eat my face etc

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Dic Mignogna

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King
lmfao these freaks really could not have picked a less sympathetic person to make the face of "MeToo has gone too far"


i don't know what would be a less believable move for a fictional character: kayne west saying "there are a LOT of things i LOVE about HITLER!" after weeks of people trying to say "going Death Con 3 on JEWISH people" isn't antisemitic or vic exposing himself to a bunch of women live on air after losing a defamation case for sexual harassment. it's been a real red-letter week for reactionary psychos setting themselves on fire.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

To be fair, I think most of the people on the culture war train have already abandoned this case when it became exceptionally clear that Vic actually did do these things

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
when you're pro se on zoom, you have a fool for a client


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFtbd_pd9rY

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Waffleman_ posted:

To be fair, I think most of the people on the culture war train have already abandoned this case when it became exceptionally clear that Vic actually did do these things
it was always pretty clear after decades of Vic being a creep to people to anyone who even just asked around, but it took a totally inexperienced and greedy showboat like Nick to push forward with the grift instead of actually doing some investigation into the veracity of the claims. intense client selection/screening is the very first step of any impact litigation and Nick just didn't do his homework because he was too focused on that sweet Hateron cash.

this has to be the worst defamation "reverse uno" outcome since Oscar Wilde

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

A big part of that was a lot of the "MeToo gone too far" peeps did not come from the anime scene and were unaware that Vic had been a missing stair for like 20 years

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"
I... before this video I honest thought Leopard print speedos/tighty-whities were just gag items

But the Vic Saga continues to surpass my expectations

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Oh gently caress, they were leopard print?

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



MechaX posted:

I... before this video I honest thought Leopard print speedos/tighty-whities were just gag items

But the Vic Saga continues to surpass my expectations

ahahahahaha I'm not gonna check but that's amazing

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

They looked like more generic polka dots to me, but I admit to not really wanting to examine Vic's mooseknuckle too closely.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Waffleman_ posted:

Oh gently caress, they were leopard print?

I never thought leopards would eat my face takes on a new, horrible meaning.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Dawgstar posted:

I never thought leopards would eat my face takes on a new, horrible meaning.

nonono :ohno:

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum
what a terrible day to have eyes

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Did Vic sustain a greivous head injury in the recent past? How does anyone, regardless of their known sex pest past, think that's a cool joke to do on a stream?

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MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Waffleman_ posted:

Oh gently caress, they were leopard print?

a few people online came to that conclusion before i saw the vid and after seeing it, coming from someone who inherited some tacky-rear end leopard print bed covers, there was no other possibility in my mind

loving lmao vic is a mess

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