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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Xaris posted:

hey i have fun with it, but also lol i have no idea who this is for. i just so happen to love insanely pretentious grad students name dropping merleau ponty and derida like it's a contest to se who can name drop the most

lol i've never heard of it before sorry. tier 3 sub is a twitch thing for the most parasocial donors

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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Xaris posted:

does anyone listen to Plastic Pills? like picture the most unkempt grognardily-pretenious PhD grad student philosophy major at an pretentious ivy league that you can imagine. then multiply that person by 3 and put them in a podcast

I would rather have my head sawn off

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

i tried to read one of merleau-ponty's books once and it made me physically uncomfortable enough that i had to put it down lol

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/empire/id1639561921

Related to some of the subcontinent talk on the previous pages, I found a podcast that is doing a deep dive into the British in the subcontinent. I only listened to part of the first episode but it was interesting.

Salvor_Hardin
Sep 13, 2005

I want to go protest.
Nap Ghost

I still miss his NBA podcast so much but I will listen to this.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Salvor_Hardin posted:

I still miss his NBA podcast so much but I will listen to this.

Which one?

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
it's a lot more challenging to have a compelling narrative that's focused on broader social/political trends and material history than it is to pick a few guys to focus in on as representative of a particular era or moment in history or whatever you're doing.

Wallenstein is a good one to focus on with the 30 years war, but it's less about him and more the relatively unique circumstances of his ascent to power and the industries and institutions he created along the way.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

https://twitter.com/intellegint/status/1599520259480104960?s=46&t=gZyMRP2tJI1BxD8-foQTfA

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Frosted Flake posted:

Something I wish I could better articulate about his anecdotes is that they seem suspiciously similar to the Great Man theory of history, with the phrase “overdetermined by material conditions (or some sort of welt/volks/zeit geist)” taking the place of “preordained by God”.

This is absolutely accurate, but it's still fun to listen to the stories even if they aren't particularly important historically.

edit: I think that it's a situation where Christman realizes that the idea all these stories matter to history is wrong (which is why he constantly keeps peppering in these "overdetermined by material conditions" statements), but he still likes them and wants to talk about them (which is understandable, though still misleading in the end).

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 02:39 on Dec 5, 2022

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

does every Hinge Points end with Christman speculating the world would probably be better off if history took literally any other course

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
the world would be a better place without chapo trap house

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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slave to my cravings posted:

the world would be a better place without your posting

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Hinge Points: What if... Susan Storm married Namor the Sub-Mariner?

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


Pablo Nergigante posted:

Hinge Points: What if... Susan Storm married Namor the Sub-Mariner?

It's too bad Christman doesn't like nerd stuff because a Hinge Points about stupid fantasy novels would probably be more entertaining than the actual show. You can be less embarrassed by how little you actually know when you're speculating on what if the Tobias didn't get trapped in a falcon morph or something equally dumb

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Atrocious Joe posted:

does every Hinge Points end with Christman speculating the world would probably be better off if history took literally any other course

matt is anti dr pangloss like we live in the worst of all possible worlds

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Atrocious Joe posted:

does every Hinge Points end with Christman speculating the world would probably be better off if history took literally any other course

There’s a pattern in mid-century social history writing, before Marx was driven out of the academy, where the author will place each major event within the history of class struggle. Not that they’re all hinges per se, but they will describe how revolutionary energies led to an event, the same ones that will one day lead to world revolution, and explains why that particular moment was not right for revolution.

It’s useful to know why 1848 failed, or the labour movements at the apogee of their power in the 1890’s thought they could enter electoral politics. Understanding why craft unions were slow to become politically activated, while miners were militant, these are important because now how many of us wish we had those conditions? The author has to explain that economic growth in 1900 meant the ruling class was confident and so provided liberal reforms, allowed socialists into legislatures and even governments, why workers in Belfast experienced solidarity along sectarian and not class lines and so on.

So, if you read a lot of these histories, I suppose you could think of each of these “failures” to bring about a better world - because conditions were not right - as moments where if only that hadn’t been the case, we might have been delivered from the world wars, fall of the USSR and present conditions.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Atrocious Joe posted:

does every Hinge Points end with Christman speculating the world would probably be better off if history took literally any other course

The Monty Hall Problem.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Atrocious Joe posted:

does every Hinge Points end with Christman speculating the world would probably be better off if history took literally any other course

I think they were backward engineering to this in the first season. The world would obviously have been better if Reconstruction had continued. So what's one simple thing that could have made that more likely? Lincoln's VP being someone else.

This season, they don't seem to be doing that at all, and it's much worse for it. But they still seem to want to arrive at the same conclusions as the first season did.

I didn't even get past like 5 minutes of the Martin Luther one. I suspect the right answer to "What if Martin Luther died young?" should be "Someone else would have done it. Maybe they'd have done it differently, but there would have been a schism nonetheless."

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Atrocious Joe posted:

does every Hinge Points end with Christman speculating the world would probably be better off if history took literally any other course

He's not wrong about that

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

I couldn’t mop all the rooms on my house cause there was no TrueAnon.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

mawarannahr posted:

I couldn’t mop all the rooms on my house cause there was no TrueAnon.

my chore schedule is also based on timely podcast releases ugh

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Get a WFH job and just do all your chores on the clock

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

tokin opposition posted:

Get a WFH job and just do all your chores on the clock

learn2code

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Nah they have standards, learn2it

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

i say swears online posted:

my chore schedule is also based on timely podcast releases ugh

same

Samuel Glompers
Nov 26, 2020

tokin opposition posted:

Nah they have standards, learn2it

I would genuinely like to do this. Computer Janitors seem to have a good life

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Samuel Glompers posted:

I would genuinely like to do this. Computer Janitors seem to have a good life
while that's true, you would also be forced to posting on D&D and twitter and scolding people all day during "work" because that's a requirement for a computer touching job.

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

Samuel Glompers posted:

I would genuinely like to do this. Computer Janitors seem to have a good life

I think the key is to be the IT guy in a place that isn’t tech centric. I know a few people who’ve done IT at like museums and such and it’s just ridiculously laid back bc no one knows what you actually do but they literally cannot fire you.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

TheSlutPit posted:

I think the key is to be the IT guy in a place that isn’t tech centric. I know a few people who’ve done IT at like museums and such and it’s just ridiculously laid back bc no one knows what you actually do but they literally cannot fire you.

Yes, this is exactly it. The pay may be lower than working in Serious Software Development, but if you look at it in terms of hourly pay it's probably similar.

Also the subject matter might be more interesting simply by virtue of not actually being "in the tech sector." Working for a small scientific web app is significantly more rewarding than the stuff most programmers seem to get up to. Thanks to capitalism, all the most talented programmers end up doing the most worthless bullshit imaginable.

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Ytlaya posted:

Yes, this is exactly it. The pay may be lower than working in Serious Software Development, but if you look at it in terms of hourly pay it's probably similar.

Also the subject matter might be more interesting simply by virtue of not actually being "in the tech sector." Working for a small scientific web app is significantly more rewarding than the stuff most programmers seem to get up to. Thanks to capitalism, all the most talented programmers end up doing the most worthless bullshit imaginable.

writing code for industrial control software sounds like it would be pretty sick

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
what women think men want: (insert w/e)

what men want:

crepeface posted:

matt talks about the 30 years war pod with other history nerds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WBfGfiiC0E

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Homeless Friend posted:

what women think men want: (insert w/e)

what men want:

meow we're talking

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

Shipon posted:

writing code for industrial control software sounds like it would be pretty sick

I dunno it’s cool if you’re the guy running PLCs on the floor but I used to work with some ex-Rockwell types and they all chewed up speed every day while cranking out white papers and system flow diagrams. Very old school productive meth behavior imo. It’s deeply concerning that that type of person mostly works on web services now rather than safety critical real time systems and such.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Ytlaya posted:

Yes, this is exactly it. The pay may be lower than working in Serious Software Development, but if you look at it in terms of hourly pay it's probably similar.

Also the subject matter might be more interesting simply by virtue of not actually being "in the tech sector." Working for a small scientific web app is significantly more rewarding than the stuff most programmers seem to get up to. Thanks to capitalism, all the most talented programmers end up doing the most worthless bullshit imaginable.

[Shaking my head] Only under capitalism could talented programmers end up doing worthless bullshit. What a waste.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

some plague rats posted:

[Shaking my head] Only under capitalism could talented programmers end up doing worthless bullshit. What a waste.
he's right

under communism, talented programmers would be making completely free government-made fully immersive haptic vr porn worlds for the masses

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
also a good free podcast player

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
wait, would podcasts exist under communism or are they a result of the capitalistic material dialectic? much to ponder... maybe matt will do a hinge points on this

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Samuel Glompers posted:

I would genuinely like to do this. Computer Janitors seem to have a good life

I don't remember if this applies to you but look up a program called Per Scholas and they do free IT job training for low income people. Otherwise look into getting an A+ as a decent foot-in-the-door certification to start, google a guy called Professor Messer that has free videos covering everything. Good luck, SH/SC has good threads that helped me double my pay and quarter my work.

Xaris posted:

while that's true, you would also be forced to posting on D&D and twitter and scolding people all day during "work" because that's a requirement for a computer touching job.

yeah it rules, I've stopped doing most chores in my free time because gently caress it, may as well get paid to do this laundry

TheSlutPit posted:

I think the key is to be the IT guy in a place that isn’t tech centric. I know a few people who’ve done IT at like museums and such and it’s just ridiculously laid back bc no one knows what you actually do but they literally cannot fire you.

This. I work at a small nonprofit and while my boss and coworker are terrible to work with I have zero accountability and nobody knows what I do so I slack off a lot. Still gonna leave and hopefully get a raise by abandoning ship ASAP because not doing anything but still being on the clock gets old after a few weeks.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

tokin opposition posted:

Still gonna leave and hopefully get a raise by abandoning ship ASAP because not doing anything but still being on the clock gets old after a few weeks.
i dunno this goon story always ruled and Moonshine was my goonhero https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/Home?pli=1

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tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

some plague rats posted:

[Shaking my head] Only under capitalism could talented programmers end up doing worthless bullshit. What a waste.

all computers are worthless bullshit, you can do the useful stuff they do with a $1 microcontroller

Xaris posted:

wait, would podcasts exist under communism or are they a result of the capitalistic material dialectic? much to ponder... maybe matt will do a hinge points on this

podcasting is praxis op

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