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Grognan posted:ok why is the mc's name Lolilyuri is this a joke? I have no idea why the author decided to do that but I can at least say it's not indicative of the rest of the story.
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I saw that one recommended elsewhere recently, went to go read it, and laughed at the name as I remembered the discussion in this thread a few months back. “Oh right, this is the one where the character is named Pedd O. Phile.” I’ve got low standards, but not that low.
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Dec 6, 2022 06:08
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I wonder if the authors are just that clueless how many people will bounce off a series due to something like this. Remember that series with the main character literally called Opie MC or something dumb like that?
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Dec 6, 2022 06:49
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Bremen posted:Jackal Among Snakes is one of those stories with a premise (game wiki editor ends up stuck in the game and uses his inside knowledge to change everything) that sounds like it can't possibly make an actual good, as opposed to at best mindless entertainment, story. But somehow it finds a way. It's got some great worldbuilding while also actually sticking close enough you can definitely tell how it's a world based on a (fictional) game, not just the author arbitrarily saying it was a game. Also tried this recently after previously skipping it due to the awful sounding premise and was pleasantly surprised (at least through chapter 120). Feels like the author is actually a pretty good writer instead of one I have to put up with.
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Dec 6, 2022 06:58
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Bremen posted:I have no idea why the author decided to do that but I can at least say it's not indicative of the rest of the story. actually since the first chapter's name actually points to it, I cannot think of a way this actually works out well except I am supposed to ignore it to enjoy the text
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Dec 6, 2022 06:59
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Ah, this discussion again. It's literally just her name, she goes by Lori most of the time, the character is actually ace/aro and the child characters have no romantic scenes at all. The character does have two mothers, so it may have been intended to mean 'child of lesbians' rather than 'lesbian child'. But at the same time, it's a really awkward name/joke the author should probably rewrite. The main issue with the series is that it's REALLY slow, even for slice-of-life settlement-building webnovel stuff. It can take ten chapters just carving a basement.
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Dec 6, 2022 09:20
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Elfface posted:Ah, this discussion again. If the author just did a find/replace on the name would it change any plot stuff?
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Dec 6, 2022 09:33
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Nope. At least not before the point I got bored with it. There's a few mentions of it being hard to pronounce is all.
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Dec 6, 2022 09:39
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If you are looking for more 'transmigrated into a game with knowledge about it', try out Tori Transmigrated. It's quite different, very heavily slice of life, but I love it. Memoirs of Your Local Small-time Villainess is newer, much more similar to Jackal Among Snakes. Well written I think, but not as gripping. I've been wondering though, are there any good stories in this style written about real games, or is that to risky from a copyright perspective ?
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Dec 6, 2022 13:26
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Finally read Katalepsis and... I caught up and I need more, it's great The whole cast is great, praem ended up way better than I thought she would, and the Library of Carcosa and King in Yellow arcs are probably my favourite arcs so far. But it's a close fav, there's a lot of good moments everywhere. King in Yellow arc was one hell of a rendition of a 'fae' realm holy poo poo. I also loved the bit when Twil's home turned into a haunted house and Heather was just like 'ugh, not this again'. But yeah book good
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MonikaTSarn posted:I've been wondering though, are there any good stories in this style written about real games, or is that to risky from a copyright perspective ? None that I'd recommend, but most recently one that was trending on RR was one where the main character gets the power to summon Starcraft units (with costs scaled up so as to make it non-trivial to nuke the enemies). And offhand I know there are a gajillion Pokemon ones. If there's an actual... decent, I don't even need good, just decent--fic like this I'd read it. Is there an Elden Ring one?
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That's just fanfic. There is a lot of it, but you can't really monetize it.
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Argue posted:None that I'd recommend, but most recently one that was trending on RR was one where the main character gets the power to summon Starcraft units (with costs scaled up so as to make it non-trivial to nuke the enemies). And offhand I know there are a gajillion Pokemon ones. If there's an actual... decent, I don't even need good, just decent--fic like this I'd read it. Is there an Elden Ring one? There's an official Elden Ring manga where the protagonist is an isekai'd gamer. I'm not kidding.
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The only two fanfics i read regularly are both pokemon fanfics from the same guy, Borne of Desire and Born of Caution.
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Dec 6, 2022 15:01
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The Divine Comedy
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Elfface posted:The character does have two mothers, so it may have been intended to mean 'child of lesbians' rather than 'lesbian child'. ..."loli" is not a general-purpose word for "child"  It derives from "Lolita", aka that book by Nabokov. You might as well name someone Underagegirlongirl
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Dec 6, 2022 18:00
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the only explanation i can offer for demense is that the author has a severe case of extreme anime poisoning and felt the need to tell everyone first even though the rest of the book has basically nothing to do with typical anime stuff. their other work is some kind of genre fusion Sentai thing. so whatever they have going on is deep. also, the world and ideas of demense are cool, but the main character is just exhausting to deal with. like i think they're supposed to be autistic or something? I don't know. all i know is they flip flop between coming off as written ultra flat or legitimately missing part of the human experience, and not really in a compelling way- It's just feels like there's never anything to talk about besides stuff people built with magic and the wizard protagonist saying my way or the highway with various levels of implied or actual threat. anyway i read it for a while and dropped it because it just never went anywhere. if you're gonna write a slice of life it needs a protagonist who feels emotions besides irritation and frustration. Larry Parrish fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Dec 6, 2022 |
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BadMedic posted:Finally read Katalepsis and... I caught up and I need more, it's great Hey, thanks! I say this a lot but it's always nice to hear from people who've enjoyed the story so far.
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Megazver posted:That's just fanfic. There is a lot of it, but you can't really monetize it. it's swooping awfully close to the sun but you can definitely get patreon money for fanfic the phrase Super Mario Isekai has certainly jangled around in my brain from time to time edit: shyguy, flyguy, isekaiguy Lunatic Sledge fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Dec 6, 2022 |
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Hungry posted:Hey, thanks! I say this a lot but it's always nice to hear from people who've enjoyed the story so far. I also found it funny how you've slowly ramped up how... blatant the trans themes are. Like from a one off 'her poncho was blue white and pink' in the first few chapters to one of the characters straight up saying "Lozzie? You mean the girl in the trans flag poncho?" in the more recent ones (I imagine all the characters in the scene staring into the camera for a second after that line) When I read the clothes shopping scene I imagined you leaning close to the mic and going "And this one's for all the trans girls in the audience". BTW what's your plans for releasing further volumes in ebook/audio form? I have a friend who prefers audiobooks and doesn't really like reading from a screen.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:..."loli" is not a general-purpose word for "child" I know that, but I've encountered people who only knew the term through anime and thought 'goth lolita' fashion was the first use of the term.
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BadMedic posted:I also found it funny how you've slowly ramped up how... blatant the trans themes are. Like from a one off 'her poncho was blue white and pink' in the first few chapters to one of the characters straight up saying "Lozzie? You mean the girl in the trans flag poncho?" in the more recent ones (I imagine all the characters in the scene staring into the camera for a second after that line) Back when i started the story I was very nervous about including the trans themes, but they're essential to the core of the narrative, so I'm glad I ended up doing so. A majority of my 'core' audience (patrons and readers on the discord) are trans women. So, hooray! There's four more ebooks/audiobooks on the way. Podium signed up to do five books total. I'm currently editing the second volume from the serial chapters, but it's taking me A While, seeing as I'm writing two stories at the same time now. Hopefully before summer 23!
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Hungry posted:Back when i started the story I was very nervous about including the trans themes, but they're essential to the core of the narrative, so I'm glad I ended up doing so. A majority of my 'core' audience (patrons and readers on the discord) are trans women. So, hooray! Just wondering if you've gotten any backlash over trans themes? I've had a fairly violent backlash on a recent chapter, was wondering what your experience was
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Selkie Myth posted:Just wondering if you've gotten any backlash over trans themes? Nope! The worst I ever seem to get is the occasional "why are all the characters women? where are the men?!" comment, usually earlier in the story. I've never gotten a lovely comment about trans themes, gender stuff, lesbians, or anything like that; I chalk this up to Katalepsis being clearly labelled and signposted as lesbian fiction, so most people who bother to read the first few arcs are already on board.
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Hungry posted:Nope! The worst I ever seem to get is the occasional "why are all the characters women? where are the men?!" comment, usually earlier in the story. I've never gotten a lovely comment about trans themes, gender stuff, lesbians, or anything like that; I chalk this up to Katalepsis being clearly labelled and signposted as lesbian fiction, so most people who bother to read the first few arcs are already on board. That's good to hear, I'm glad that your audience is supportive! I suppose it's harder to get into Katalepsis without knowing what you're signing up for. I do sometimes wonder if authors of stories that are more stealthy about trans inclusion get comparatively more grief for it. Like Quill & Still, where the references are pretty obvious to "Fans of Celeste" as the author calls them, but might easily slide by unnoticed for most other people.
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Bee Bonk posted:That's good to hear, I'm glad that your audience is supportive! I suppose it's harder to get into Katalepsis without knowing what you're signing up for. I do sometimes wonder if authors of stories that are more stealthy about trans inclusion get comparatively more grief for it. Like Quill & Still, where the references are pretty obvious to "Fans of Celeste" as the author calls them, but might easily slide by unnoticed for most other people. For what it's worth, I didn't pick up on the trans themes in Katalepsis, though I didn't get very far in (nothing wrong with the story, but at the time some aspects of what was going on with the sister were not what I wanted to deal with). That's just the trans stuff though, I can't imagine anyone not picking up on the lesbian elements, though somehow people always find ways to surprise me.
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A scattering of very short web fiction reviews. If your capped on all the good stuff the thread is already talking about, the stories lower down on this list might interest you.quote:The systemic lands quote:Shroud quote:Magical Girl Gunslinger quote:Cyber Dreams & Electric Angels [LitRPG & Progression Cyberpunk] quote:Nowhere stars quote:Summus Prolium
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Rob Filter posted:Summus Prolium Honestly I can't bring myself to read this due to his other story, Heretical Edge. Edge isn't even a bad story per se, I enjoyed reading until I dropped it, but... Dear god the author just kept tossing in story elements and plot points and cool scenes and sideplots and... with zero thought to how bloated the story was getting. He straight up can't end a side plot, it always has to escalate into yet another bigger sideplot. Like each chapter on it's own is fine, but all together at least 2/3rds of 'book one' should have been either deferred to later 'books' or just not included in the story altogether. The baseline structure of the story is 'Girl goes to Magic High School, each book is one year' The plot at the beginning of 'book one' is "Gotta go to magic school, to find the necromancer who took my mom" The plot at the end of 'book one' is "OK I'm on the run from the Evil Galactic Empire, also I started Wizard Civil War Part 2, and the necromancer who took my mom is a galactic hyper-criminal who regularly deletes planets." Like holy poo poo leave some escalation for the rest of the series goddamn.
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BadMedic posted:Honestly I can't bring myself to read this due to his other story, Heretical Edge. 90s Cringe Rock posted:Systemic Lands loving sucks lol
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Rob Filter posted:I tried and failed to read heretical edge as well, I bounced off the prose. I dropped Heretical Edge for the same reason as OP, but Summus Prolieum(sp) is a pretty fun take on the superhero genre and the powers are fun and mostly avoid the “flying brick” stereotype. Paintball is a fun protagonist with a creative power set who is surrounded with a pretty memorable cast. I agree it is a little unfocused right now, but it’s a fun read. Haha Systemic Lands is so bad that I read it for a while out of macabre fascination with its badness. One that I’m liking right now is “Dawn of the Void” which is a sort-of take on the LitRPG apocalypse but instead of cute mythical fantasy races it’s demons and horror and grimdark all the way down. Another one is “Psycho Duel Revelations: [A Deckbuilding LitRPG Apocalypse]”, which I started reading on a whim because I figured anything with that stupid of a name would be hilariously bad, but it’s actually pretty decent, engages with its concept well, and has had some pretty good action so far. The Earth is being used as a battleground/playground for psychotic players of a Yi-Gi-Oh type game from an alternate Earth which is being broadcast to the home dimension as entertainment. navyjack fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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For some reason I just can’t get into system apocalypse stories. They just seem like a silly premise to me. I’m not sure what it is, as I can enjoy “and then superheroes appeared!” and can overlook lots of other ridiculous setting ideas.
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nrook posted:For some reason I just can’t get into system apocalypse stories. They just seem like a silly premise to me. I’m not sure what it is, as I can enjoy “and then superheroes appeared!” and can overlook lots of other ridiculous setting ideas. Dungeon crawler carl was good until it got bad.
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Summus Prolium is wormfic with the serial numbers filed off. The author wrote a bunch of worm fanfic before writing it and then basically wrote more of the same but without the constraints of having to fit into worm's story. I found it entertaining for a while. It's a decent read until you get bored with it story.
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My main problem with Heretical Edge- not the only problem, but the one that wore me down- was that it seemed to have exactly one emotional beat- reunion with estranged family members- and it hammered on it like its life depended on it. Couldn't go an arc without someone finding their long-lost something or other. It was repetitive and exhausting. The escalation, I mean hell I think I would have enjoyed that if not for everything else. Always like a good bit of absurd escalation, if the author doesn't write themselves into a corner. e: I hate you fuckers, because now I'm thinking of Heretical Edge and where I left off and wondering what, exactly, happened with that galactic war and whatever. I'm going to talk myself into finishing it and I'll be miserable the whole time, I can already tell. KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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Affi posted:Dungeon crawler carl was good until it got bad. Until it got bad how?
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:My main problem with Heretical Edge- not the only problem, but the one that wore me down- was that it seemed to have exactly one emotional beat- reunion with estranged family members- and it hammered on it like its life depended on it. Couldn't go an arc without someone finding their long-lost something or other. It was repetitive and exhausting. They ran into goku as he released his built up bullshit and were accidentally incinerated. No one noticed or cared. Hey this button makes donuts. There you go, now you don’t have to go read bad stories.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:e: I hate you fuckers, because now I'm thinking of Heretical Edge and where I left off and wondering what, exactly, happened with that galactic war and whatever. In the story wizards grow in power by killing magic beings. Doing so both increases their power in general, and gives them some form of ability from the creature they killed. So a powerful experienced wizard has a nearly endless number of powers at their disposal, and this is a really bad setup for fights? Like with a good fight scene, you want to set up audience expectations then subvert them in a (usually foreshadowed) way. But when basically all major opponents can just pull any power out of their rear end, at will, it just feels bad cause the fight is just an endless series of random abilities out of nowhere. The novel mostly avoided this by just rarely having fights with other wizards, but I doubt the fights that do eventually happen will actually be interesting to read.
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Summus proelium is better than heretical edge (I think I made it up to the end of year 1 but didn't read the epilogues, but up to that was largely an exercise of endurance) but after reading SP over the last couple of weeks it feels like it has the same problem I've seen in a lot of Cerulean's other stuff, which is that the approach seems to be setting up more and more spinning plates at every opportunity. The pieces seem fine moment-to-moment, but once there are so many things happening at once (with almost completely new things constantly cropping up that throw up more plates) things start to lose their narrative weight. Also the coincidences that drive the plots would probably give a victorian author pause, and they did things like having frankenstein's monster find a bunch of books in the forest to explain why he could read.
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