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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Can't wait to start using this new frame lmao e: bros I got my new epic PLACEHOLDER frame, based on ska + that static image you used to get on old TVs Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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I'm not to sure why we're hung up on not being able to craft grays instead of having to rely on the store when crafting isn't in fully yet. They'll likely just release it with the rest of crafting. This is a fatshark release, after all. Can't expect it all to work  toasterwarrior posted:Got Zealot, Veteran, and Ogryn to Level 30 in about 104 hours. 0/5, will never buy another Fatshark game again, time to keep up with my weeklies and join in with friends whenever they're playing. The amount of time i've seen people legitimately claim this is insane. There's a dude complaining that the game has nothing to do after 120 hours and he's leveled all characters to 30. Like, congratulations bro. You've completed the game. Maybe come back when they add more content? Why do you think the game should hold you for longer than 120 hours? That's insane value for money. That's more that I spend on 99% of games i'll ever buy.
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Zzulu posted:I am nowhere near 30 yet (how are you all getting there so quick?) My job is a bureaucratic black hole that sometimes forgets I'm employed for months at a time.
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Diephoon posted:I'm working on Vet as my last character having gotten all the others to 30 and WOW does it feel OP after playing every other class. stuff like this annoys me cause i keep getting veteran teammates who are completetly useless. like WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!! useless, when they're such a super good class. I'm not even bothered by player 'skill' but they just aren't shooting ranged enemies or helping us fight the horde, and instead like crouched behind a box outside of coherence range. they tend to be level 20+ too so they must of been doing this for like 20 hours.
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Zzulu posted:I agree with all of this. I still like the game and I very much enjoy shooting up hordes with my Ogryn BUT I was expecting a bit more story to immerse in as well as more maps and also guns/tools to use during gameplay. I am nowhere near 30 yet (how are you all getting there so quick?) but I imagine I will be pretty bored of the game loop by then due to the above mentioned reasons. A decent chunk of folks hit level 30 during the pre-order beta. My first 30, Ogryn, took me about 25-30 hours. This was before Malice+ difficulties got their rewards massively buffed. If you're in a premade you could absolutely hit 30 way faster just playing Malice with secondaries and the occasional special condition much faster than pre-order beta.
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dogstile posted:I'm not to sure why we're hung up on not being able to craft grays instead of having to rely on the store when crafting isn't in fully yet. I'm not going to hold back criticism in the hopes that future patches solve the problem, though. The game is out
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Dropped my beloved bolter for a lasgun that does 50% of its single shot damage with 80% less recoil and 3x the ammo pool. Suffering from success.
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Fishstick posted:The more I play the more it feels like Psyker and Zealot are just... superfluous. Brain pops not scaling means you can either spend a lot of time trying to pop one Crusher, or wait for the vet to blow it the gently caress away in a quarter of the time. Yeah you could use staffs and leave BB alone, but then you're just a Vet with less ranged talents and worse weapon selection. For Psyker, you kind of eventually have to let go of your preconceptions of brain-bursting, which will free you up to be an absolute monster. Indypride posted a good build and I used it to carry people through difficulty 3 and 4 last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ay9ZPxgs40 Pennsylvanian fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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dogstile posted:I'm not to sure why we're hung up on not being able to craft grays instead of having to rely on the store when crafting isn't in fully yet. The thing is it doesnt feel completed once you hit 30 and run a few heresy / damnation missions. VT1 and VT2 had an actual credits sequence when you beat the final mission with a hint that the entire story wasnt told and that more would follow. This one just stops abruptly once you hit 30, with no thread holding any of the cutscenes together or any reason for why you are doing anything at all. I mean for fucks sake, 75% of the crafting is still "coming soon", if that doesnt raise a red flag i dont know what will. Its the third game theyve made, we should expect more or at least similar quality as their last title. DT just feels like they havent iterated on anything established in Vermintide 2 at all and are instead groping in the dark like its their first ever game. BombiTheZombie fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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People are talking up the power sword on the Vet, and while it is good, I wouldn't say it's busted. Am I just using it wrong? How often should I be powering it up? Always seems like a trade-off where you might get hit while you're charging it - on the other hand, it's easy to get that toughness back with a charged sword. e: do agree with Diephoon that ammo is not an issue at all with Veteran, at least for my Kantrael XII. I consider it a dump stat when I'm looking at the shop. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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Phlegmish posted:People are talking up the power sword on the Vet, and while it is good, I wouldn't say it's busted. Am I just using it wrong? How often should I be powering it up? Always seems like a trade-off where you might get hit while you're charging it - on the other hand, it's easy to get that toughness back with a charged sword. The change lasts for four chained heavy attacks so my normal combat cycle is to push forward with the strong, high cleave attacks four times, dodge back, power up, repeat with the enemies that pressed into the space the dodge created. It's not like the chainsword where you are revving it for one special attack each time, it lasts a few seconds. E. The sword can also be powered up while it's still charged so if you have some breathing room you can give yourself a bump to reset the timer. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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Power sword charge animation can be cancelled really early. Charging while sliding cancels invisibly and instantly.
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BombiTheZombie posted:The thing is it doesnt feel completed once you hit 30 and run a few heresy / damnation missions. VT1 and VT2 had an actual credits sequence when you beat the final mission with a hint that the entire story wasnt told and that more would follow. This one just stops abruptly once you hit 30, with no thread holding any of the cutscenes together or any reason for why you are doing anything at all. I mean for fucks sake, 75% of the crafting is still "coming soon", if that doesnt raise a red flag i dont know what will. They gave an explanation for the crafting. They apparently pulled the system and restarted, hence the delay. I'm cool with that  It's not like crafting is gonna make or break the game, i've gotten 50 hours out of it so far without having to get into the end game of just crafting grays until one is 380 and then upgrading it. The end game taking a bit longer than actual release seems like it's only going to affect the turbonerds who absolutely will come back to see it after a few patches, the vast majority of people are not going to have put in two full days of playtime into this game in under a week. I'd say it's actually in a better state than VT2 at release, because while VT2 had more of a "story" half the game straight up didn't work. Phlegmish posted:People are talking up the power sword on the Vet, and while it is good, I wouldn't say it's busted. Am I just using it wrong? How often should I be powering it up? Always seems like a trade-off where you might get hit while you're charging it - on the other hand, it's easy to get that toughness back with a charged sword. On Heresy+ I pretty much exclusively dodge back while charging the sword, do two heavy swings (sometimes three, i still haven't worked out why it sometimes gives me extra charge time) and then charge + dodge again. It kills everything. Even ragers die in like two swings. It's ludicrously OP. I actually just kinda hope they buff everything else rather than nerf it tho.
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Cease to Hope posted:They just released Hotfix 1.0.14. Patch notes quote:
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Insert name here posted:Oh good this has been bothering the hell out of me Yeah but I bet that you have been holding the scanner *really* steady
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CuddleCryptid posted:The change lasts for four chained heavy attacks so my normal combat cycle is to push forward with the strong, high cleave attacks four times, dodge back, power up, repeat with the enemies that pressed into the space the dodge created. I'm pretty sure the chain weapons auto rev on a fully charged heavy attack, figuring that out really changed my playstyle with them
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I got my Vet to 30. I picked the Ogryn-merking Feat and now I can just vaporize specials with my plasma cannon which now reloads in half the time. It feels really good.
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anyone tried to merge striketeams? i always get a error message that the other person is running a different version of the game.
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Buschmaki posted:I'm pretty sure the chain weapons auto rev on a fully charged heavy attack, figuring that out really changed my playstyle with them I've seen that on the 2-hander dig in and cut without revving but I don't think that the one hander fully saws through people like the 2-hander does. But I could be wrong.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Dropped my beloved bolter for a lasgun that does 50% of its single shot damage with 80% less recoil and 3x the ammo pool. Suffering from success.
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hemale in pain posted:anyone tried to merge striketeams? i always get a error message that the other person is running a different version of the game. Yeah that's been a bug this whole time, so far unsolved.
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dogstile posted:They gave an explanation for the crafting. They apparently pulled the system and restarted, hence the delay. I'm cool with that I'm glad you're cool with that but I'm not! And I want to craft guns so i can, you know, try those guns, not minmax at endgame as you are suggesting.
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For me, the crafting is something I want because I'm really far into some characters and I haven't run into some weapons (I'm lvl 15 on my Zealot and I've never seen a flamer in the store while checking). I liked how in VT2 that if I couldn't get a glaive from chests, I could make one and upgrade it using the junk from the boxes I opened.
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Hope that crash fix for when textures load in helps my problem of crashing half the time when I load into the mourningstar
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I continue to have fun. nearly at full 450+ gear for my psyker and folks on the discord have been real nice/helpful with groups, especially with getting tricky penances. once I really hammer out all there is to do with psyker I'll probably start working on veteran a bit
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CuddleCryptid posted:The change lasts for four chained heavy attacks so my normal combat cycle is to push forward with the strong, high cleave attacks four times, dodge back, power up, repeat with the enemies that pressed into the space the dodge created. dogstile posted:On Heresy+ I pretty much exclusively dodge back while charging the sword, do two heavy swings (sometimes three, i still haven't worked out why it sometimes gives me extra charge time) and then charge + dodge again. So I should charge my power sword, chain heavy charged attacks, dodge back, and repeat? Got it. I think my problem is that I'm still in Vermintide mode where you don't want to take damage from anything (ignoring the existence of temp health for a second). In Darktide it matters less since you can immediately regain that lost toughness, especially when fighting a horde, so you can afford to be exposed for a second. Only thing that still confuses me is that CuddleCryptid mentions four chained attacks, while dogstile is apparently only doing 2-3 before his charge runs out. I guess I could try it out for myself once I get home.
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I have gotten four chained attacks out of the power sword before. I might have even had five? I think it's a latency thing and the intended is two.
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Qmass posted:pewpew
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tehinternet posted:Let’s review what you posted, because on a re-read it seems less that “some people can’t read” and more that you didn’t really think about what you wrote actually means. That's a lot of words to miss the point that the 1h timed loot store is also gambling, just instead of in game currency you pay in real life time of checking it hourly. I play 3-4h a day which at best gets me 3-5 chances at an in store item. Given that it took me 3 store refreshes to get a slab from a store - and I don't mean a 'good' slab - I mean buy the first one I see because I didn't have one - that's a rather major issue. All I want is the ability to get an item of a specific type on demand. If it's via currency or mats or whatever isn't relevant really. Point is that if I want a specific item type, and I can totally afford it - I should be able to you know just buy it. Not waste my real life time on waiting for an in game store. Once again - the store IS gambling and you are losing the gamble every time you check it and it doesn't have a single item of the type you are looking for. If you think that buying a specific item type with hidden stats is a lootbox mechanic - but an hourly refreshed store with random loot isn't a lootbox mechanic - I genuinely don't know what to tell you.
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What is the curio meta looking like for psyker? I've been using a mix of +toughness and +health as I'm settling in at 30 and trying to make the jump from malice to heresy.
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I wonder if the people who are defending the awful weapon shop didn't go 10+ levels without seeing newly unlocked weapons and don't realize how much it sucks to wait until 30 to find a void staff. I'm glad other people are having fun but the long lists deconstructing why I'm wrong to be frustrated with the game have gotten me to stop playing faster than Fat Shark. And why would they fix problems if everyone keeps white knighting them?
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Kaysette posted:What is the curio meta looking like for psyker? I've been using a mix of +toughness and +health as I'm settling in at 30 and trying to make the jump from malice to heresy. Wounds are definitely important, at higher levels you have just two wounds and getting downed is going to happen so having a buffer is important. Not sure what the ratio is on +health/toughness and wounds though. And then I guess grin resistance for those missions, and something else for others.
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i've kind of glossed over the greater store chat at large so sorry if this has already been mentioned, but i think that something that exacerbates the problems with it is there's a lot of "best in slot" weapons and a lot of "not even worth using" weapons, with no incentive whatsoever to switch it up once you've filled it with the thing you want. you could break up the monolith a bit by making the weekly missions apply to them (like use this suboptimal weapon to kill x number of enemies) but that really only kicks the can to the other side of the road making players feel like they're obligated to use something that sucks. it's interesting because even if all the weapons in the game were perfectly, ideally balanced such that every single one was worthwhile to use for different reasons, it wouldn't solve the core problem of "i found the type of weapon i like, i'm going to stick with that forever"
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The number of different gun options for psyker that I will never use is kind of baffling next to the 4 force staves that I actually care about, since the guns inevitably flood the store instead. It also makes me get guns as emperor’s gifts instead of staves Then due to current balance I don’t even care about all 4 of the staves, just a couple of them
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The store is fine if the crafting system was in and you could craft basic weapons when unlocking them. Right now as there's no crafting they really need to just give everyone free guns when you unlock them! they don't have to have good stats.
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game rules but it's still in beta. they should have called it an early access release so people who haven't experienced a fatshark game launch have their expectations set correctly.
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I probably shouldn’t use the Rumbler as more of a lower-damage grenade box that also happens to have excellent crowd control but goddamn is the crunch of nailing a sniper in the nose with one so god drat satisfying.
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Phlegmish posted:So I should charge my power sword, chain heavy charged attacks, dodge back, and repeat? Got it. I think my problem is that I'm still in Vermintide mode where you don't want to take damage from anything (ignoring the existence of temp health for a second). In Darktide it matters less since you can immediately regain that lost toughness, especially when fighting a horde, so you can afford to be exposed for a second. I throw in a shove before dodging back just in case, but that's the gist of it. The charge increases your cleave to the point where you just carve through hordes, so any toughness damage you take tends to come back immediately. I get anywhere from 2-5 swings out of a charge, I have no idea how the mechanic works so I just charge it after every third swing or whenever I get a second. also anyone who says the preacher zealot is a superfluous class hasn't experienced the sheer joy of hosing down a horde with a flamethrower.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:My job is a bureaucratic black hole that sometimes forgets I'm employed for months at a time. Ah, so you work in the Administratum then 
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