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secret volcano lair posted:that number really seems like it might have something to do with the bruins and leafs having much better defense and goaltending  there's a sentence I did not expect to read this season
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Tell me you didn't watch either clip nor read the discussion without you know doing that. I think the sarcasm didn't parse in text on this occasion. Point being that who knows what they will call when people go into the crease, it seems potluck sometimes.
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Diet Crack posted:I think the sarcasm didn't parse in text on this occasion. Point being that who knows what they will call when people go into the crease, it seems potluck sometimes. These two things are not alike because of where the puck is when contact occurs. Bastian was not playing the puck when contact occurred, Crosby was attempting and succeeding in playing it when contact occurred. This is a pretty big difference, but the people on the TV and radio can't seem to ever figure it out. It's not kid hockey where you can't score while touching the crease and I'm pretty sure it falls into rule 69.7 under contact for a loose puck.
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Jhet posted:These two things are not alike because of where the puck is when contact occurs. Bastian was not playing the puck when contact occurred, Crosby was attempting and succeeding in playing it when contact occurred. This is a pretty big difference, but the people on the TV and radio can't seem to ever figure it out. It's not kid hockey where you can't score while touching the crease and I'm pretty sure it falls into rule 69.7 under contact for a loose puck. The real sin is giving Sid the goal when it looked like an own-goal by Gavrikov.
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Diet Crack posted:I think the sarcasm didn't parse in text on this occasion. Point being that who knows what they will call when people go into the crease, it seems potluck sometimes. Bastion was clearly in the crease, clearly bumped the goalie, and clearly impeded Murray from playing his position. Them's the rules. If you wanted to argue that without the contact by Sid that the puck doesn't go into the net (which I agree with) than by all means, but it seems quite a stretch to say Crosby 'impeded' the goalie from playing his position. On the flip side, if that were called a 'no goal' on the ice I could see a coin flip for if it were overturned or not. Chad Sexington posted:The real sin is giving Sid the goal when it looked like an own-goal by Gavrikov. You're just salty because it puts Sid further ahead of Ovie :P
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Bastion was clearly in the crease, clearly bumped the goalie, and clearly impeded Murray from playing his position. Them's the rules. If you wanted to argue that without the contact by Sid that the puck doesn't go into the net (which I agree with) than by all means, but it seems quite a stretch to say Crosby 'impeded' the goalie from playing his position. On the flip side, if that were called a 'no goal' on the ice I could see a coin flip for if it were overturned or not. I don't think it's a stretch. It seemed like Elvis couldn't extend his pad all the way liked he wanted to, and since Sid was in the blue paint Elvis is theoretically entitled to that ice. Elvis did initiate the contact but Sid was in the blue paint. I wouldn't have been upset to see it called back. But I don't think the NHL has any discernible criteria they use for this stuff other than it seems like they'll call a goal back if they think the goalie might have made the save if not for the contact. But it feels like if there was some level of contact and the goalie wasn't likely to make the save anyways then they'll usually let the goal stand. But again, there's very little consistency here.
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Matt Zerella posted:https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1600575232422526976 I can't help but wonder if this is a Panarin thing, especially in a stretch where he's struggling. He has always like a grinder on his other wing and we know he requested guys like Blackwell to play with over Kakko etc in the past. He wants someone who will just retrieve any loose pucks but not do anything with them but give the puck right back to him. Still absolutely loving stupid though because yeah Goodrow shouldn't be on the 2nd line and what a lovely message this sends to players like Kravtsov who were told he couldn't get into the lineup when healthy after a win because "you don't change things after a win" and then after a win he immediately yanks the rookie out of the lineup These favorite games are gonna be the end of him and handling the locker room
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Tell me you didn't watch either clip nor read the discussion without you know doing that. The discussion was wrong. Crosby is a cheater. (The 2 situations being compared are not alike. However, what Crosby did has been called as goalie interference more often than it has not.)
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Starsfan posted:I remember when Karlsson was originally traded out of Ottawa the Stars were considered front runners at one point but the asking price in the deal (which was stated to include Miro Heiskanen) was a bit too rich in the end... I have good news on a good defenseman that the Ducks will have available to trade at the deadline.
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I wonder what it's like for McDavid every November when he realizes, nope, not going to win the Cup this year either. He's creeping up on being old enough that it will begin to dawn on him that he is never going to win the Cup.
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Eric the Mauve posted:I wonder what it's like for McDavid every November when he realizes, nope, not going to win the Cup this year either. he doesn't strike me as a one-team-for-life player if the Oilers haven't made headway by the time he's 28, he can go be a mercenary year by year like Hossa
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It's a weird situation, we haven't seen it in a long time where the league's best player or near best player is on such a consistently mediocre team. Ovi and Jumbo fell short for a long time in their primes but they had great teams. You've probably got to go back to Jagr after Lemieux retired for the first time, but he had already won a couple of Cups and peaced the gently caress out of there shortly after (after the miracle Mario 01 season sadly enough). I feel like I made this same post last year and then he somehow carried them even harder. Difficult to see him having a better playoffs than he did last year and they still got smoked by the Avs. The West does look more open this year though. T-Bone fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Dec 7, 2022 |
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Duckman2008 posted:I have good news on a good defenseman that the Ducks will have available to trade at the deadline.  it would be so drat depressing
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T-Bone posted:It's a weird situation, we haven't seen it in a long time where the league's best player or near best player is on such a consistently mediocre team. Ovi and Jumbo fell short for a long time in their primes but they had great teams. The solution is to break their spirits by conditioning them as early in their careers as possible to being the only good player on losing franchises so it’s all they know. See Connor Bedard and the Regina Pats
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lmao, even with 9 forwards injured, Alex Galchenyuck has been playing so poorly that he got sent down to the AHL and an undrafted guy is making his NHL debut tonight (24th Avs forward to dress this season). Look at this team: Projected Lines Alex Newhook (18) – Mikko Rantanen (96) – Charles Hudon (54) Jean-Luc Foudy (93) – J.T. Compher (37) – Logan O’Connor (25) Andrew Cogliano (11) – Ben Meyers (59) — Martin Kaut (61) Dryden Hunt (22) – Cal Burke (68) – Sampo Ranta (75) Cale Makar (8) – Devon Toews (7) Erik Johnson (6) – Samuel Girard (49) Andreas Englund (88) – Jacob MacDonald (26) 1st liner Charles Hudon!
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:he doesn't strike me as a one-team-for-life player you say that but McDavid is reportedly dumb as a brick and insider info is that he does genuinely feel indebted to the Oilers for trusting him to be the face of the franchise or whatever and he has way more loyalty to the franchise than what they deserve. I think there's very little chance he ever leaves Edmonton and would probably view that as a personal shortcoming on his part (not winning a cup for the team that drafted you like Crosby / Mackinnon = I'm a failure). might as well group all my Oilers bashing together under one post, jesus christ someone airlift Jesse Puljujarvi out of Edmonton.. https://twitter.com/AHockey1993/status/1600609115562442752/photo/1 Starsfan fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Dec 8, 2022 |
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mennoknight posted:it rules that he's so fuckin dumb And yet he's not even the dumbest Oilers #1 pick ever (please destroy me if the Bruins make the Finals this season).
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https://twitter.com/sportsnetspec/status/1600605062019321856?s=46&t=AXqRIuuxk5-E_B3C3heLSwquote:“Of course I’d like to be a productive top-line player,” Puljujärvi said in his native Finnish, as translated by Seppälä. “But right now, it looks like I can't do that in NHL. Maybe some other league.” Feel bad for him, but 1 goal and 6 points in 26 games playing shotgun with McDavid, maybe the fancystats community is wrong about him being the next Nichushkin?
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fermun posted:lmao, even with 9 forwards injured, Alex Galchenyuck has been playing so poorly that he got sent down to the AHL and an undrafted guy is making his NHL debut tonight (24th Avs forward to dress this season). The Colorado Eagles will defeat the Boston Bruins and I will bear witness
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Jesse has been given just about every chance to succeed since Holland has been running the team but his shot is just atrocious
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dew worm posted:The gallant honeymoon ended pretty quickly It tracks with all his other stops. 1.5 seasons.
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stab posted:Somewhere Joe Thornton has the urge to whip his dick out and he doesn't know why He should've hung on a couple more years and signed with Buffalo. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Dec 8, 2022 |
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Cartoon Man posted:Torts hooked us with a second goalie pull so Ovi could get two empty netters. loving ruled.
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Cross-posting, butCBJSprague24 posted:Why couldn't they have done this against Washington so Ovie could get free goals from the free goal store?
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