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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Yes 420 4.43%
No 69 0.73%
Goku 9001 94.85%
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antidote
Jun 15, 2005

DeeplyConcerned posted:

guys, I've been working closely with Elon, and I think I've finally uncovered the vast global conspiracy that's threatening to choke the life out of this world. of course, I don't want to claim that I've done all this by myself. I had some very important people helping me from Kanye West to Jordan Peterson.

what I've discovered will absolutely shock you . The Chinese have invented a special kind of nano particle that looks like lint, but it's not. it's a very sophisticated, self coagulating super intelligence. they designed it to look like lint that people would think you're crazy when you discover it. "you must be crazy. You think the lint is trying to kill you!". first of all, I didn't say it was trying to kill me. I said it was a self coagulating Superintelligence. i've spent hours photographing this and I've almost come up with the proof. Stay tuned!

We are WAY past due for the triumphant return of Morgellons.

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Bobcats
Aug 5, 2004
Oh
Imagine Google, but better

Wow holy poo poo dude you’ll have billions in no time.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
These loving morons think they are hot poo poo for chiseling a wheel out of stone while google et al are driving modern vehicles, lmao (not teslas because they aren’t on fire)

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
thinking about making twitter search like google, but better... anyone got any ideas? i'll be on the 10th floor if you need to find me

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

repiv posted:

twitter spaces has been around for ages, you just got the onboarding message very late for some reason

spaces was their answer to clubhouse, which nobody uses anymore, and now nobody uses spaces either besides crypto nerds

This is from several pages back but it still amuses me that the worst people thought the next hot wave of social media was going to be conference calls

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Neddy Seagoon posted:

I can tell you straight up it's a really stupid idea; Because it's not just going out and getting a search result it can clear and forget in the browser cache, it's pulling results and storing them appended to the initial tweet permanently in their storage system.

So every single query is saved forever,AND will expand storage usage geometrically as you make a vague search term and pull THOUSANDS of hits back. For every user, and every query they make. That'd kill their system in about, oh, a day I reckon.

this is delightfully dumb, thank you george for providing us such quality content

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

yeah the problem with google search has always been that it doesn't call you a nazi pedo groomer beta cuck often enough.

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



Buce posted:

yeah the problem with google search has always been that it doesn't call you a nazi pedo groomer beta cuck often enough.

You just need to flag it to check privileges

Quixotic1
Jul 25, 2007

Elon now leading a hardcore inquisition on who the traitor in his midst who took and leaked the photos out. How paranoid must he be right now.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

big black turnout posted:

This is from several pages back but it still amuses me that the worst people thought the next hot wave of social media was going to be conference calls

VR conference calls :pseudo:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

big black turnout posted:

This is from several pages back but it still amuses me that the worst people thought the next hot wave of social media was going to be conference calls


Megillah Gorilla posted:

VR conference calls :pseudo:

Oh that's also just a thin facade for the real use case; Micro-managing remote workers. No, really. The whole use case for VR headsets in the "office" is so Managers can cope with stupid peons enjoying a work/life balance by working from home now by getting remote workers back under their manager's thumb where they can be seen and "expected" to be working constantly, with their manager able to virtually look over their shoulder constantly like at the office. Or at their open windows remotely at any time. Sitting in a VR meeting with everyone just lets you watch them all at the same time and feel like you're managing them.

On a $1,500USD headset per person. In a coming recession. On a device that no sane company would permit to hold secure data, or be let inside a development lap because of the way its tracking system models the observed playspace with its cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cg7tFZy_QA

I heartily invite you to watch the Meta Connect 2022 event, because holy poo poo is it sad and yet immensely entertaining for how bad it is. There's a lot of Kickstarter pitch energy (from the kind you can tell is probably gonna not make goal), and the best highlight is the way the lie to the audience in various ways. The legs showcase is staged animation, and the whole "Woah, did you know legs add to IMMERSION?? What a new concept, I Mark Zuckerberg, am pioneering a solution for!" comes about 40 minutes after name-dropping VRChat.

Also while there's some legitimately interesting new tech at the end, you can clearly see Mark co-opting someone else's work as his own.

tuo
Jun 17, 2016


lol Twitter 2.0 becoming the next overenthusiastic IT college student startup full of grand new ideas never done before, but with the internal brainstorming fully public for everyone to lol at.

Can't wait for the "coming up with the idea is the hardest part, implementing it is trivial...basically a one-liner"-tweet.

grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012


Just realized this guy's the rockstar programmer who's gonna save Twitter and Elon won't even give him a blue check

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


how much crack is george on

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?

Quixotic1 posted:

Elon now leading a hardcore inquisition on who the traitor in his midst who took and leaked the photos out. How paranoid must he be right now.

It's genius, Elon reversing his decision and making working from home mandatory so nobody can leak anything else

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start maniacally scraping security footage and screaming at scrubbed metadata in a crazed bid to find the leaker

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Zuckerburg's cartoon avatar looks more like a human than he does lmao

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
Dudes currently going on an anti mask tirade in TYOOL2022

So uh is this part of being a hardcore programmer? Begging people to do your work and then ranting about normie poo poo? No wonder Elon hired him

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Lol remember when posters itt were stanning for that dumbass idiot moron when he made his tweet offering to work for Elon

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
oh mr tech guy you're so dreamy hacking a toy for children


Mr Tech Guy: :shrek:


a genius

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

priznat posted:

These loving morons think they are hot poo poo for chiseling a wheel out of stone while google et al are driving modern vehicles, lmao (not teslas because they aren’t on fire)

We're back to Star Citizen constantly reinventing the wheel and acting like nobody's done it before.

Wonder what the overlap is in Musk fans and Citizens.

nullEntityRNG
Jun 23, 2010

Mostly pseudo-random.

Midnight Voyager posted:

We're back to Star Citizen constantly reinventing the wheel and acting like nobody's done it before.

Wonder what the overlap is in Musk fans and Citizens.

At least 80%. The other 20% just dont know about it yet, but will buy into it when Musk mentions it

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



The Awesomesaurus posted:

https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/1599970004593946625

Having a good one.

Also his profile picture really pisses me off and I don’t know why.

OK, some thoughts.

This is what we'd call an "interesting problem", and as everyone who's done research or computer science knows, that's a synonym for a "pretty difficult thing". You're kind of at the intersection of several different things. Obviously first of all you'll need a good search engine to be able to find data in the first place, and that's famously not super easy. Then, you'll need to do a bunch of natural language processing, because you're not just returning hits that seem to be related to the topic at hand, you need to process the data to form some kind of consensus about the results, and turn it into what sounds like real replies.

Neither of these things are impossible. People have done them, and people are doing them. But your guy started this job by literally saying "hey can anyone do this thing for me? I'll try to get you hired as an intern if you can" and then "hey can anyone give me any research related to this topic" which are both big red flags. They kinda imply that he doesn't have a lot of domain knowledge, nor has he done any research by himself because he's asking people for relevant papers. So you're kinda starting at a pretty big disadvantage here.

But then we get to the truly nutty part: he wants to beat Google. This whole thing started with a "what would it take to get you to use Twitter's search instead of Google's", and Google are kind of the kings of this kind of stuff. They literally built their company on this poo poo. Hell, they already offer a very similar product: if you ask Google's Voice Assistant a question, it tries to answer in a natural way. If you ask "hey Google, what is Little Big Horn famous for", it will say something like "Little Big Horn was the location of a large battle during the Great Sioux War and is known for Custer's Last Stand".

So in essence we have a guy going "hey I'm a 95 pound nerd and I wanna beat 1986 era Mike Tyson at boxing... does anyone have a link to a research paper that explains what boxing is?"

It's extremely dumb.

E: and also lol at the whole "hey if anyone can do this thing I'll try to get you an internship". As with most "pretty difficult things" in computer science, if you're a person who can do the thing well, you probably already have a high paying job somewhere and might not be champing at the bit to jump on Captain Apartheid's Wild Ride.

Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Dec 8, 2022

Teratrain
Aug 23, 2007
Waiting for Godot
Hotz's support in the replies being filled with mass-produced shades-wearing ideas guys is funnier than it has any right to be.

The most hosed part is that they've introduced this horrid live-at-work culture for no reason other than the manchild new boss wants it. It's never indicative of good management but it's at least understandable when the company is pushing to meet an announced release date or a contractual obligation. They visibly don't have this because Musk cut like 70% of the workforce. They're working on a bunch of short term impulse-driven projects, some of which (like the payment stuff) interact with data you absolutely don't want to fart out ASAP.

These working conditions notoriously encourage rushed, ill-conceived products so I've got a huge tub of popcorn ready for the legal hellfire after the inevitable data breach.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


the bunk beds, the devotion to this insane sinking ship, it's all got heaven's gate ending written all over it

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens
Twitter search proposal:

Don't do any of that and just make regular keyword search work. You know, the way at least 90% of people use search: type in a word, get a bunch of results containing that word. Done. what is the point of this dumb idea? Twitter search is not going to replace Google my man, you don't always need super complicated solutions. And stop asking others to do your homework for you

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

These are the absolute geniuses, captains of industry, who will usher us into a gilded age of autonomous motor vehicles

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
December 24th: a mucus membrane has developed surrounding the exterior of Twitter's San Francisco-based Head Office building, forming a pulsating flesh 'nest' which prevents any passage in or out. Suggestions of what is occuring within come only from cryptic tweets posted hourly by Elon Musk, showing what appear to be decapitated heads attached to dozens of pairs of hands coding at inhuman speed

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

On a $1,500USD headset per person. In a coming recession. On a device that no sane company would permit to hold secure data, or be let inside a development lap because of the way its tracking system models the observed playspace with its cameras.

Why is Meta so against what using it for Porn? That seems to be the best use of it.


Though after watching that Shut Up and Play video on Virtual Chat using it to allow anyone to be anyone they want seems valid and much more popular. Meta dosn't seem to want to allow that either???

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012

I feel like every Tweet I see from this guy is just him coming up with stupid ideas, and then begging others to do his homework for him.

"Include links to relevant papers," dude, just do a loving search yourself and see if there's anything. This is the equivalent of reddit questions where it's clearly just teenagers copy-pasting their essay topics.

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

George Hotz doing the equivalent of posting "FB friends, tell what's the best wireless provider and why? And go!", except he's arrogantly posing as the savior of a clapped out social media company and he's in way over his head.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Mx. posted:

how much crack is george on

The real reason Musk bought Twitter is because there's a crack cocaine boulder the size of a house buried underneath SFHQ. ROI could, in theory, be great. But, ya know, he's too much of a crackhead to let that happen.

Discuss.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Yes I too want all my web searches to be published openly as tweets so they are forever in my history and people can reply to them.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Data Graham posted:

Yes I too want all my web searches to be published openly as tweets so they are forever in my history and people can reply to them.

This is the sort of thing my aunt would do on Facebook.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Archonex posted:

No, the reality is far worse and hilarious in how much of a desperate gently caress up everything has been on the Republican end of things.

The russians likely stole nude photos and emails of Hunter Biden from a server at a currently unknown location as part of a psy-op to influence elections, Rudy Guliani was probably a front man for them given that he was dumb enough to post a picture of himself on the russian MTS on his cellphone when saying he had suddenly received new evidence that would totally get Hunter Biden this time after he botched the accusations multiple times on national TV, the repair shop guy's story kept changing and having holes in it, and all forensic evidence that is non-partisan heavily suggests the whole thing is a heavily botched psyop by Repubs and foreign agents to slander the president by association as all the associated data that would conclusively say that the thing is really Hunter Biden's and not a botched plant made up of carefully selected stolen emails and pictures to paint him in the most negative light possible is missing from the laptop.

Note that the Republicans also hosed up slandering President Biden. The emails from Joe Biden were all loving and supportive. Dude's emails to his son are literally "I know you've made mistakes but I know you can turn it around, I love you son." etc, etc. So I guess this makes Biden bad because he has empathy? Not a shocker that Republicans wouldn't get that.


Also something something Burisma something something conspiracy (which actually is also completely made up, the emails were sent to him but there's no replies since it's obvious they were downloaded onto the laptop. Meaning the whole thing is doctored as gently caress for certain, not that i'm sure the Republicans won't suddenly "find" something that all the other forensic investigators that aren't partisan couldn't find if they get control of the FBI or run a committee on it or something.), something something libs bad innocence is fake news vote for us Republicans we are the trustworthy people who are totally not working against national interests with a hostile foreign power to obtain more power despite all evidence to the contrary.

TL;DR: The Republicans are desperate to make their dumb as dogshit base mad at Democratic party members and they somehow hosed up targeting the presidential equivalent of a doddering old grandpa.

Pages late but barring all evidence aside just logically if there was anything remotely damning on the laptop the GOP would've been screaming it from the heavens. Instead it's all this Mike Pillow "I'll have a big reveal next Sunday or maybe the one after that actually I lost the harddrive" bullshit.

It just blows my mind that the base keeps talking about it even though it's their leaders that won't show it to them. Real suckers for circus showmanship.

Shaking lemur butt
Jan 5, 2015

:haw: :v: :ohdear: :cool:

Data Graham posted:

Yes I too want all my web searches to be published openly as tweets so they are forever in my history and people can reply to them.

Exactly!

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016

Data Graham posted:

Yes I too want all my web searches to be published openly as tweets so they are forever in my history and people can reply to them.

It's been done already!

https://twitter.com/edballs/status/63623585020915713

IYKYK

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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priznat posted:

Yeah *most* crunch cycles are limited time duration to push a product out the door, but with this bizarre add new features/delete features/refactor features/remove the new features thing they have going on at twitter this seems like it would just be an endless cycle and that is loving depressing.

Yeah let me point something else out about this.

When companies operate under a 60-hour-week, nights-and-weekends, gotta-meet-a-deadline mode, it is for one of two reasons:

1) there is a market or regulatory date they must get a new product or feature out by or else they are dead, like for example a health insurance provider who must have their site live by the federal Open Enrollment date or else it misses all business for that year

Or far more commonly,

2) the company is a startup and they will run out of investor money by X date so they have to get the product out the door (or attract another round of venture capital from some gullible rich rube) before everyone's paychecks bounce.

Neither is the case for Twitter. It is under no externally or internally imposed product-related deadlines, and it is privately funded by a dude who is capable of spending infinite money on it.

It isn't trying to accomplish anything.

Elton just wants it to be "his vision" whatever the gently caress that is, and he wants it yesterday. And he's apparently not even willing to entertain reasonable timelines for feature delivery, which in any normal company would be on the order of 3-6 weeks or up to 6 months depending on how much they're changing. Transforming the entire nature of the product to be a payment processor or search engine or whatever the gently caress, that's a years-long endeavor. But Elon apparently thinks this is something that can be done overnight, after firing everybody, and if it isn't getting done overnight it's because the devs aren't literally THERE overnight. And if it's still too ambitious he'll just fire more of them until they give him the right answer.

But every company that operates under that kind of schedule is doing it TEMPORARILY, and that's what they tell their employees and prospective employees. Otherwise nobody will loving want to work for them.

If a company were to court me by saying "Yeah we work 60 hour weeks and we sleep in the office, we work hard and play h—well actually no we just work hard ahaha" I would just click X on the zoom meeting without a word. That kind of pitch doesn't even get past the recruiter-wants-to-represent-you stage. They're trying to look attractive. The market is such that companies have to compete for talent! They have to make working there look rewarding and fun! They can say "We need to get our prototype on the road in 3 months because that's what we're funded for, but if we succeed we'll own the market!!" and that is a legitimate pitch, sometimes that actually works out! So is "You get a lot of stock options but that's OK because we plan to IPO in six months and then you'll be a millionaire!" That happens too! (It happened a loving lot in around 1999.) But those carrots are how you get people to endure the stick. You don't hire people by saying "lol you get the stick, and if you don't like it, you get more stick"

The "startup lifestyle" is not anybody's idea of an ideal work environment on an ongoing basis with no end in sight. It's understood to be the way you do something if you HAVE to, BRIEFLY. And if you're going to attract people to it you're making it worth people's while with stuff like massage tables and bumper pool and free meals, because everyone understands that it's a lovely situation. Nobody volunteers for a 24/7 job just because they love working for Elon Musk and telling their parents at Thanksgiving that they work for Elon Musk.

A crunch cycle is a CYCLE. It's not a perpetual state of being. It's something you fight your way through because there's a pot of gold at the end, or else you decide you don't need that poo poo in your life and you have a normal job where you can clock out and see your family and the company completely understands because that's how it keeps employees.

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

Data Graham posted:

Yes I too want all my web searches to be published openly as tweets so they are forever in my history and people can reply to them.

So basically like the AOL search log leaks except that things like, "do n-words have x-ray vision?" will be public by default?

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

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The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I don't think your initial analysis is quite right. Elon doesn't want people there overnight so he can gets features out faster, he wants them working long hours and never going home as an end in itself.

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