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| Shohei Ohtani |
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50 | 59.52% |
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19 | 22.62% |
| Hey, the national league has an MVP too you know! |
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15 | 17.86% |
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MrMidnight posted:Best 1-4 in the game? And they can still add a DH.
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I thought the Astros slightly overpaid for Abreu but holy crap it looks like a steal now. What an insane off-season so far!
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Dec 8, 2022 08:25
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mcmagic posted:The Yankees lost SEVEN!!!!!!!!!!!! players in the rule 5 lol Where do you get this from? I'm seeing two guys. Wilking Rodriguez to the Cards and Zach Greene to the Mets. Am I missing something or are you once again inflating poo poo to do your nasty schtick about everyone is terrible at their jobs? Also losing players in the Rule 5 doesn't seem like some huge condemnation of an organization? Like if you think there's someone on the 40 man who is dead weight and of more value than one of these guys ok. Obviously you do because you think everyone in the world is dead weight. But again, its the Rule 5 draft. Like a fraction of baseball fans even know what it is and only a handful of players ever really stick with their new clubs. And hey, turns out if teams want your minor league guys maybe you're not as dogshit at talent development as some people say? Who knows?
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Dec 8, 2022 08:54
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STAC Goat posted:Where do you get this from? I'm seeing two guys. Wilking Rodriguez to the Cards and Zach Greene to the Mets. Am I missing something or are you once again inflating poo poo to do your nasty schtick about everyone is terrible at their jobs? mcmagic is probably including the six the Yankees lost in the minor league segment of the Rule 5 which is not a big deal at all
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Dec 8, 2022 08:58
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Dinosaurs! posted:Where are the Pirates? Thought they’d be top 3
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Dec 8, 2022 09:11
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MrMidnight posted:Best 1-4 in the game? Altuve Bregman Alvarez J Abreu Has to be close if not better. Alvarez is the best hitter of all 8, and Tatis is coming back off rehab and pissing hot. And if you went to 5 you're getting Kyle Tucker who is easily better than every hitter after the cleanup spot in the dads lineup.
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Dec 8, 2022 09:37
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beating another team by 120 million is kind of insane but imagine being Bogaerts and hearing that "well you can stay in boston, 6/160" "Oh wow that sounds great let's- " "no no, no, hear me out though you got another offer...."
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Dec 8, 2022 10:23
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If you enjoy rage https://twitter.com/MattMcCarthy985/status/1600768635949445120?s=20&t=4BtVPnaakDW3cKOJyMurzg
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Dec 8, 2022 11:27
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The thing with Story is he can't play SS anymore, so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. That is a wild contract for Bogearts, way more years than I expected. I wonder if they will try to get rid of Tatis now, see if he can rebuild some value first, or just hold onto him
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Dec 8, 2022 13:02
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Nodoze posted:The thing with Story is he can't play SS anymore, so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. The big issue had always been that the Red Sox could have been proactive a year ago and got him signed for way less. They didn’t want to because they didn’t want him and then panicked at the last second and kind of sort of tried.
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Dec 8, 2022 13:05
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When did mega-contracts go from like 5 years to a decade?
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Dec 8, 2022 13:17
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Peggy Edson posted:When did mega-contracts go from like 5 years to a decade? A-Rod?
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Dec 8, 2022 13:21
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Dinosaurs! posted:Where are the Pirates? Thought they’d be top 3 The Pirates are actually still above .500 as a franchise, as a consequence of having been a perfectly respectable team for the majority of their existence. Then Bonds left. They’ll probably drop below within the next few years though.
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Dec 8, 2022 13:27
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triple sulk posted:A-Rod? I guess? But that seems like it was an outlier back then.
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Dec 8, 2022 13:38
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Xander  I'll say it again, the problem isn't that Red Sox ownership won't spend money, it's that they don't believe in contracts greater than seven years. I mean if it had been me I'd have offered him something like 8/200, and also would've said so long if he returned with that 11/280, but it still sucks to see him leave, especially after the Mookie brouhaha.
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Dec 8, 2022 13:39
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The big issue had always been that the Red Sox could have been proactive a year ago and got him signed for way less. They didn’t want to because they didn’t want him and then panicked at the last second and kind of sort of tried. They also offered him an insultingly low deal as an extension
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Dec 8, 2022 13:49
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Peggy Edson posted:When did mega-contracts go from like 5 years to a decade? luxury tax avoidance I guess, so whenever that was put in place.
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Dec 8, 2022 13:57
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ihatepants posted:mcmagic is probably including the six the Yankees lost in the minor league segment of the Rule 5 which is not a big deal at all The fact that they only lost two guys in the MLB portion of the draft is surprising, honestly. And I dunno if I even want to really count Rodriguez here because he's a 32-year-old post-indy-ball reclamation type of dude who hasn't pitched in affiliated ball since 2015.
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Dec 8, 2022 13:58
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Dinosaurs! posted:Where are the Pirates? Thought they’d be top 3 I know it's hard to believe due to the recent 30 years of complete ineptitude, but the Pirates have been around since the 1880s and were perennial contenders for much of their history. We've got 5 World Series titles!!!
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Dec 8, 2022 14:28
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howe_sam posted:Xander This is exactly where I’m at. I was 100% on board to overpay Xander because I love the guy but 11 years is too much. I hope he kills it in SD Also the story/Xander comparison people keep trying to make is completely forced. Nobody cares about the AAV, the deal is almost twice as long which I think matters quite a bit?? Nodoze posted:They also offered him an insultingly low deal as an extension This is the part that actually upsets me, though. What a limp dick move, learned absolutely nothing from giving Jon lester the finger. NiceGuy fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Dec 8, 2022 |
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Dec 8, 2022 14:48
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Padres are going to be the worst team in baseball in 5 years.
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Dec 8, 2022 15:08
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Somebody on SoSH posted Xander's numbers against the NL West and outside of Colorado they are...not good, though admittedly the sample size is so small as to be insignificant. SDP (27 PA) .200 / .407 / .250 SFG (13 PA) .154 / .154 / .154 LAD (18 PA) .294 / .278 / .294 COL (11 PA) .556 / .636 / 1.778 ARI (13 PA) .182/ .308 / .182 NL West (82 PA): .257 / .354 / .429
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Dec 8, 2022 15:15
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I love cheering for San Diego, because I like when teams just say "gently caress it", and try their hardest at building a roster with money. It's why I have never disliked the Dodgers.
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Dec 8, 2022 15:16
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Twin Cinema posted:I love cheering for San Diego, because I like when teams just say "gently caress it", and try their hardest at building a roster with money. It's why I have never disliked the Dodgers. The dodgers who have let two all-star shortstops walk in consecutive years?
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Dec 8, 2022 15:24
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And they cannot spend on the best SS FA in the market because their fans will get too mad about it lol. Welcome to LA Dansby Swanson.
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Dec 8, 2022 15:31
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Nodoze posted:I wonder if they will try to get rid of Tatis now, see if he can rebuild some value first, or just hold onto him
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Dec 8, 2022 15:41
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howe_sam posted:The dodgers who have let two all-star shortstops walk in consecutive years?
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Dec 8, 2022 15:47
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zoux posted:And they cannot spend on the best SS FA in the market because their fans will get too mad about it lol. Welcome to LA Dansby Swanson.
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Dec 8, 2022 15:49
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I mean, there are like two options left and three or four teams looking for shortstops. I dunno if you guys have some prospects stashed but I guarantee everyone will get over it after his first season e: SS is Lux's natural position right? zoux fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Dec 8, 2022 |
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Dec 8, 2022 15:54
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Paracaidas posted:I wouldn't be surprised to see something like Kim and a couple pitching prospects (or Morejon) for Kepler and Arraez. can Kim play shortstop because I sure as hell don't want Polanco moving there
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Dec 8, 2022 15:55
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It feels more likely that LA would go after Correa and everyone would realize winning is the best balm rather than Boston reacting to losing Xander by signing an even bigger deal with the marquee free agent SS.IcePhoenix posted:can Kim play shortstop because I sure as hell don't want Polanco moving there Kim may actually be the best defensive shortstop in San Diego right now.
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Dec 8, 2022 15:55
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IcePhoenix posted:can Kim play shortstop because I sure as hell don't want Polanco moving there Makes $7m this season (his age 27 season), $8m next year, and has a similar mutual option that he'll almost certainly decline after next year. When I first pitched that, I thought we'd be getting back 3 years of team control and not two, but I'm not sure how much that changes my opinion
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Dec 8, 2022 16:03
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These long deals showing up at the same time have me thinking ownership knows a lot more about post RSN revenue than the rest of us do. I mean that’s obvious but they gotta be pretty confident that the money is going to be even better if they’re going to 11 years on shortstops not named Alex.
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Dec 8, 2022 16:05
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zoux posted:I mean, there are like two options left and three or four teams looking for shortstops. I dunno if you guys have some prospects stashed but I guarantee everyone will get over it after his first season IcePhoenix posted:can Kim play shortstop because I sure as hell don't want Polanco moving there
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Dec 8, 2022 16:05
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Well Played Mauer posted:These long deals showing up at the same time have me thinking ownership knows a lot more about post RSN revenue than the rest of us do. I mean that’s obvious but they gotta be pretty confident that the money is going to be even better if they’re going to 11 years on shortstops not named Alex. It also lets them pay players a lot of money but keep the AAV lower for luxury tax purposes
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Dec 8, 2022 16:05
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I feel like the Sox are far more likely to take a look at Dansby than Correa, especially if they can land him for around then price of what they offered bogaerts. Then again i think the market has skewed so much in the past week that even swanson’s price might be prohibitive. Starting shortstop for the Red Sox Christian arroyo come on down!!!
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Dec 8, 2022 16:06
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Nodoze posted:It also lets them pay players a lot of money but keep the AAV lower for luxury tax purposes And it will allow them to pay 39 year old middle infielders with a OPS+ of 70 a third of their payroll in the late 2020s The Angels have taught us all these lessons - splashing on big names, signing aging stars to long term contracts - and the league just refuses to learn from their suffering.
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Dec 8, 2022 16:07
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zoux posted:And it will allow them to pay 39 year old middle infielders with a OPS+ of 70 a third of their payroll in the late 2020s Everyone knows the back end of huge deals are whatever, it's just the cost of doing business. None of these teams are hurting for money
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Dec 8, 2022 16:09
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zoux posted:And it will allow them to pay 39 year old middle infielders with a OPS+ of 70 a third of their payroll in the late 2020s
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Dec 8, 2022 16:10
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The Angels also keep losing because they keep throwing money at bats and don't have a pitching staff other than Ohtani
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Dec 8, 2022 16:13
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