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Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


I'm still waiting on Galactus. Only 2200 tokens to go...

it'll probably be a while.

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BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011

PJOmega posted:

I have She-Hulk in my shop, but only 1300 Tokens and still missing a lot of key Pool 3 cards. Wave/Death/Hela/Arnim/Destroyer/Sera to name a few off the top of my head.

They're ridic stingy with tokens.

I heard math somewhere that most players who have not finished pool 3 will earn around 1000 tokens per month. After completing pool 3, that number jumps to 6000 per month.

Reek
Nov 3, 2002

every.fucking.year.

Kaboobi posted:

complaining about not having death works



Well uh, that worked



ps, more like silly surfer am I right

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
It's not GOOD per se because under normal circumstances it's only gonna work if Lamentis flips third, but Black Widow in this featured location is funny

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
You know, I was running my Patriot Kazoo through this Lamentis game and getting a large variety of opponents, but then I decided to see what the fuss was about and made a meta Death deck and it was like I passed into an alternate Meta Dimension, where every single person is running either the same deck or the deck designed to murder my deck.

This made me more appreciative of the deck-matching algo now.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Think I just had some sour grapes directed at me. Turn 6, they played Odin on an empty Bar Sinister.
I was afraid it was going to be an infinite loop for a minute there.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Had someone play Storm on a location same time I played Storm on another location. You just know I had to Absorbing Man the third location. Had a "Limbo" game go only to 5 turns because of that lol. We both snapped so I still walked away with 4 but it was kinda funny and I wish I wasn't as reactionary to clicking on "Collect Rewards" so I could've gotten a screenshot.

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
Got a Namor ultimate variant in the token shop two or three days ago. It rotated in again today. Very stupid

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Megazver posted:

You know, I was running my Patriot Kazoo through this Lamentis game and getting a large variety of opponents, but then I decided to see what the fuss was about and made a meta Death deck and it was like I passed into an alternate Meta Dimension, where every single person is running either the same deck or the deck designed to murder my deck.

This made me more appreciative of the deck-matching algo now.

Thanks for this, I took Death out of my deck and now my matches are decent.

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

edgar_ posted:

Got a Namor ultimate variant in the token shop two or three days ago. It rotated in again today. Very stupid

The token shop has a fixed percentage chance of containing something from these groups (actual percentages are different, I'm just pulling these out of my rear end to make it easier to read):

50% pool 3 card
30% pool 4 card
15% pool 5 card
5% ultimate variant

Within these groups, you are guaranteed to see every item once before you can get repeats.

Taking pool 4 as an example, once you have seen all 10 cards in the group, the next time the RNG gives you another item from pool 4, you will start to see repeats.

Now, because there are currently only 2 ultimate variants, if the RNG rolls you, at 5% each time, the 'ultimate variant' for the 3rd time, it will obviously show you a variant you've seen already.

Again, percentages given are made up. (I think the ultimate variant chance is actually 2.5%, but don't quote me on that.)

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
They made the ultimate variant odds too high given that they launched with two.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Dec 8, 2022

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

I got the Winter Vacation variant of Devil Dinosaur in the gold shop rotation today and I had to get it. He's so cute.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

edgar_ posted:

Got a Namor ultimate variant in the token shop two or three days ago. It rotated in again today. Very stupid

I saw this as well when it launched and was super confused. I didn't think the art was anything stunning, and I was thinking why the hell would I buy a variant of a meh card instead of getting something like She-Hulk?

Side note: I'm quite enjoying my She-Hulk/Death deck this past few days. I am the problem.

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

the_steve posted:

I got the Winter Vacation variant of Devil Dinosaur in the gold shop rotation today and I had to get it. He's so cute.

Did the same when he popped up. No regrets.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



I hit 600 collection and this game has turned into hell lmao

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Studio posted:

I hit 600 collection and this game has turned into hell lmao
yeah. That's the part of the game where they really try to monetize you. it's poo poo by design.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

No Wave posted:

yeah. That's the part of the game where they really try to monetize you. it's poo poo by design.

They're probably referring to the fact they now have to fight all the Pool 3 decks.

The monetization so far is... tolerable, IMO.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.
poo poo, turn 3 Ebony Maw/Viper onto Bar Sinister does not work like I expected lol (they get 2 ebony maws, you get 1 ebony maw and 2 vipers and lose)

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Megazver posted:

They're probably referring to the fact they now have to fight all the Pool 3 decks.
Yes, that's what I mean. They turn off collection based matchmaking at CL600 for a reason.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



Megazver posted:

They're probably referring to the fact they now have to fight all the Pool 3 decks.

The monetization so far is... tolerable, IMO.

This is the phase where I'm running into players that are running like, generic "Good Stuff" decks and I just don't have the power level to match it. I had a game with the hand swap location and their hand was like 90% pool 3 expensive cards lmao (they then retreated)

poe meater
Feb 17, 2011
I'm sure most of you guys know but I learned Wave doesn't interact with Death's passive.

Also I ran twice into bar sinister into silver surfer. hosed up!

poe meater fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 8, 2022

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Studio posted:

This is the phase where I'm running into players that are running like, generic "Good Stuff" decks and I just don't have the power level to match it. I had a game with the hand swap location and their hand was like 90% pool 3 expensive cards lmao (they then retreated)
"You don't need a ton of pool 3 cards. You can get by just running pool 2s + aero + leader + green goblin."

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

should put in the OP that folks should try to max out their credit stack and not upgrade cards when they get to the 590s, before going to CL600. smooths out that initial phase of getting absolutely trounced

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

edgar_ posted:

Got a Namor ultimate variant in the token shop two or three days ago. It rotated in again today. Very stupid

Yea same here. Disappointing for how long the wait is for a new card to show


Studio posted:

I hit 600 collection and this game has turned into hell lmao

Yea I’m really having to fix my brain to fun mode as most of my losses there’s just nothing I can do to play around *card* I’ve never seen

the_american_dream fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Dec 8, 2022

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

buffalo all day posted:

should put in the OP that folks should try to max out their credit stack before going to CL600 to smooth out that initial phase of getting absolutely trounced
Maxing credit stack takes soo long now with 10k cap and is a little boring... I do recommend hitting infinite at CL594 for sure tho.

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

poe meater posted:

I'm sure most of you guys know but I learned Wave doesn't interact with Death's passive.

In a way it does. Wave sets her to 4 (instead of 9) and then the deduction happens. For example, I had her at 1 cost on a Wave turn when she had been 5 cost the turn before

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


Hang in… if you buy the season pass, there’s a shop where you can buy new cards and not just variants?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Mons Hubris posted:

Hang in… if you buy the season pass, there’s a shop where you can buy new cards and not just variants?
No the card shop thing is if you have Collection Level 500 or above

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Mons Hubris posted:

Hang in… if you buy the season pass, there’s a shop where you can buy new cards and not just variants?
At CL500 you'll unlock a special shop where you can buy new cards. Otherwise you'll be able to get new cards in bundles sometimes but that's it. Both have no interaction with the season pass.

poe meater
Feb 17, 2011

Nybble posted:

In a way it does. Wave sets her to 4 (instead of 9) and then the deduction happens. For example, I had her at 1 cost on a Wave turn when she had been 5 cost the turn before

Ohhh I see, thank you for clarifying.

parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

No Wave posted:

yeah. That's the part of the game where they really try to monetize you. it's poo poo by design.

if anything it discourages me from spending any money on progression because it's hilariously expensive to get more cards. just completely ridiculous.

i guess that stretch from 600-1000 you can get some number of cards but after that it gets even more hilariously expensive. One of the four caches you get over 48 CL will give you a card, which means 2400 credits per card, which is 1920 Gold per card. There is no variance on this number since the changes when they introduced the token shop, it is straight 2400/card. The only variance is whether you get the card after 600 or after all 2400 credits have been spent (and if you get it after 600, the next 1800 won't have any cards).

If I did the math right then uh, if you get the $100 gold pack then it's $1=100 credits (8000 gold / 120 gold * 150 credits = 10000), so $24/card.

at least at my budget i can only f2p for cards, because lol at paying $24 for one random card.

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

Mix of deck recommendation and request for advice here. After lots and lots of death shenanigans I got bored and switch over to this, to pretty good results today (people have no idea Magneto is coming):

# (1) Sunspot
# (1) Iceman
# (1) Korg
# (2) Psylocke
# (2) Armor
# (3) Cosmo
# (3) Wave
# (4) Moon Girl
# (5) Magik
# (6) She-Hulk
# (6) Magneto
# (6) The Infinaut
#
eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSW5maW5hdXQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ2lrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaGVIdWxrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTdW5zcG90In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJJY2VtYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkNvc21vIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNb29uR2lybCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUHN5bG9ja2UifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IldhdmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ25ldG8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IktvcmcifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFybW9yIn1dfQ==
#

Game plan is: (1) Moon Girl->Magik->Pass-> infinaut + 2 she hulks; (2) Wave->She Hulk+Magneto; (3) Psylocke->Pass->Infinaut + 1 she hulk. Am wondering if folks have any thoughts for the 1 drops other than sunspot. Korg and Iceman just seem good to me (I’m missing Hood) but maybe I’m missing something that would work well. Wish I could get Electro so I could run him and Viper…

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

I would complain more about the slow card drip but as parasite points out it basically just means you’re dumb to spend money outside of the season pass (or variants if you’re that particular kind of sicko)

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
The idea is a.) creating a large pressure to advance quickly at CL600 and b.) establishing a terrible baseline for $ -> progression so that things like season pass and bundles look better.

I don't have a problem with them monetizing the game btw I want them to make tons of money, I'm just making it clear that if CL600 sucks it is not user error the entire deck is stacked against you.

CitizenKeen
Nov 13, 2003

easygoing pedant

buffalo all day posted:

should put in the OP that folks should try to max out their credit stack and not upgrade cards when they get to the 590s, before going to CL600. smooths out that initial phase of getting absolutely trounced

Done.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



I'll add that Featured Locations tend to make this worse, since it creates optimized decks that don't really have counters because of the location advantage (see: Death. Yeah you can shang-chi her, but you should still run your own)

Memnaelar
Feb 21, 2013

WHO is the goodest girl?
All you jerks getting Death in your token shop and here I have Maria Hill -- who I suppose might be FINE for my zoo deck, but not 3000 tokens fine.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


I kind of want to call bull about the Pool 3 decks thing. I was slowly advancing though that area for a while and I never really had much trouble (and my Pool 3 pulls before CL 600 were Wave, The Hood, Mysterio, Electro, Giganto, Viper, Thor, Rescue, and Black Cat, in that order).

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




I'm still happily wallowing in pool 2 below rank 30 post reset, but I got a Death off of Agent 13 once and I gotta say: she's pretty good.

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double negative
Jul 7, 2003


I’m ~1100 CL and the card acquisition system is kinda wearing on me. Maybe I’m just salty cuz I’ve pulled pure poo poo like Rockslide and Helicarrier in between all my bullshit titles and assorted garbage

No Wave posted:

Yes, that's what I mean. They turn off collection based matchmaking at CL600 for a reason.

Where are you getting this from? The pool/MMR system is opaque as hell but is this actually some confirmed threshold?

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