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wocobob posted:Weirdly it looks like DK is actually pretty bad in constructed? At least HSReplay shows all the archetypes with <50% winrates. If they have to buff it for constructed that'll make arena even more busted lol Many people at all skill levels will be trying out the new class right now, especially with the lich king quest line pushing DK play, and it obviously is all entirely new decks so will be at an early disadvantage against other classes with existing, refined archetypes. I would wait a few weeks before worrying about it being underpowered
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AnacondaHL posted:### Boar Druid oh no this is way too consistent, ugh
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Scourge Illusionist has single-handedly infused the existing Mine Rogue deck with Ungoro Quest Rogue. You can flood the board fairly early with lots of 0- or 1-mana 4/4s, threatening lethal either by attacking face or exploding for even more damage. So it plays a lot differently and has a bit of a learning curve, but it's strong (may end up as a Diamond+ type deck). ### MLK Mine # Class: Rogue # Format: Standard # Year of the Hydra # # 2x (0) Preparation # 1x (0) Shadow of Demise # 2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass # 1x (1) Door of Shadows # 2x (1) Ghostly Strike # 2x (1) Gone Fishin' # 2x (1) Shattershambler # 2x (2) Forsaken Lieutenant # 2x (2) Naval Mine # 2x (3) Sketchy Information # 2x (3) Snowfall Graveyard # 2x (4) Counterfeit Blade # 2x (4) Scourge Illusionist # 2x (4) Swiftscale Trickster # 2x (5) Burning Blade Acolyte # 2x (8) Smokescreen # AAECAaIHAvTdBMygBQ716APT8wON9AO9gAT3nwT8pQT9rASIsAS3swTVtgSJ0gTj0wShkwXBoQUA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
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wocobob posted:Weirdly it looks like DK is actually pretty bad in constructed? At least HSReplay shows all the archetypes with <50% winrates. If they have to buff it for constructed that'll make arena even more busted lol There's no core package that people can build around that they know how to play from the last set so a lot of the DK decks on ladder right now are just garbage.
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I ran into a Blood DK with Renathal and Reno in his deck and it was a very long experience
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Find someone who loves you as much as Burning Blade Acolyte loves the Demon Seed
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AnacondaHL posted:Scourge Illusionist has single-handedly infused the existing Mine Rogue deck with Ungoro Quest Rogue. You can flood the board fairly early with lots of 0- or 1-mana 4/4s, threatening lethal either by attacking face or exploding for even more damage. So it plays a lot differently and has a bit of a learning curve, but it's strong (may end up as a Diamond+ type deck).
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Blasmeister posted:Many people at all skill levels will be trying out the new class right now, especially with the lich king quest line pushing DK play, and it obviously is all entirely new decks so will be at an early disadvantage against other classes with existing, refined archetypes. I would wait a few weeks before worrying about it being underpowered Yeah, I see people hero powering and letting the ghoul die without even going face. Or casting corpse explosion with 3 corpses and - I assume - wondering why the two 12/12s don't die. poo poo's new, give it time.
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No Wave posted:Just lost with this twice at Bronze 10... rip me. yea I started 2-6 before finally figuring out how to make plays, then went on a win streak
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It also doesn't help that unlike DH DK is actually a pretty complex class
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They don't need to buff DK they need to nerf Druid holy hell they have like 20 different bullshit combos and all the tools to get there
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Triple blood XL DK is giving me OG control warrior vibes Still gets poo poo on by ramp druid though, because yeah
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AnacondaHL posted:yea I started 2-6 before finally figuring out how to make plays, then went on a win streak EDIT: Confession, I swapped the bombs for nerubian eggs and it is now way more braindead and ez. No Wave fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Dec 9, 2022 |
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 Cool. Thing is ... I haven't played Paladin in weeks. 
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That one progresses when playing against paladin instead (or too), apparently
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My Rager Priest just folds against Miracle Rogue. Turn 3 I drop a Scourge Rager, coin Animate Dead. Turn 4 my enemy creates 2 12/12s and equips a 11/2 dagger. I imitate Scourge Rager's battlecry and die.
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mcbexx posted:Yeah, I see people hero powering and letting the ghoul die without even going face. Or casting corpse explosion with 3 corpses and - I assume - wondering why the two 12/12s don't die. Also the game puts 3 DK decks in your collection to use that are probably not optimised and people will be using them to try out the class.
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Excelzior posted:oh no this is way too consistent, ugh I’m loving it 
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Frenzied Patron -> Corpse Explosion -> Denathrius is a thing. Turn took forever, charged up Denathrius to around 71 dmg and then hit go on the next turn.
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Cart posted:Frenzied Patron -> Corpse Explosion -> Denathrius is a thing. Turn took forever, charged up Denathrius to around 71 dmg and then hit go on the next turn. You've done it now. https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23892222 Denathrius to Infuse (2), Shockspitter to 3 Mana.
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had 2 golden shockspitters, easy 400 dust each nice.
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### Holybuff Priest # Class: Priest # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Raise Dead # 2x (1) Frazzled Freshman # 2x (1) Gift of the Naaru # 2x (1) Northshire Cleric # 2x (1) Power Word: Shield # 1x (1) Reliquary of Souls # 2x (1) Shadow Word: Devour # 2x (1) Voidtouched Attendant # 2x (2) Bless # 2x (2) Crabrider # 2x (2) Power Word: Feast # 2x (2) Radiant Elemental # 1x (2) Serena Bloodfeather # 2x (2) Sethekk Veilweaver # 2x (3) Cathedral of Atonement # 2x (3) Clear Conscience # 2x (3) Gift of Luminance # 2x (3) Handmaiden # 1x (3) Pelagos # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 1x (4) Blademaster Samuro # 2x (4) Partner in Crime # 1x (6) Sister Svalna # AAEBAZ/HAgbOvgP76AOf6wP62wSX7wTvkQUR5QTyDJu6A6fLA9fOA7TRA7vRA5HkA633A4SjBImjBIqjBKS2BPXTBPPbBPvuBIaDBQA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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are DK progression quests bugged? The Scourge doesn’t seem to work despite it saying “summon” undead not “play”
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Julio Cruz posted:are DK progression quests bugged? The Scourge doesn’t seem to work despite it saying “summon” undead not “play” I'm seeing something similar. It seems like it's only counting one particular undead (but I haven't figured out which one yet).
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It's basic but I've been on a tear with Imp Warlock today - I went 15-3 climbing up from the bottom of Silver to Gold 10. Sylvanas is there to remove or steal Gnome Munchers from DKs. Denathrius just got nerfed so he might get replaced with another Impfestation to add another board clear, but we'll see. I took out the Dreadlich Tamsin that appears in most of these decks because I found it just led to me taking fatigue damage more often than not. ### Implock # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Hydra # # 2x (1) Flame Imp # 2x (1) Flustered Librarian # 2x (1) Grimoire of Sacrifice # 2x (1) Voidwalker # 2x (1) Wicked Shipment # 2x (2) Imp Swarm (Rank 1) # 2x (2) Impending Catastrophe # 2x (2) Vile Library # 2x (3) Fiendish Circle # 2x (3) Imp Gang Boss # 2x (4) Mischievous Imp # 2x (4) Murlocula # 2x (5) Shady Bartender # 1x (6) Imp King Rafaam # 1x (6) Impfestation # 1x (6) Sylvanas, the Accused # 1x (10) Sire Denathrius # AAECAc++BQSukQTp0ASb5ASk7wQN1+0D9O0D//oDxYAEhKAE5qAE+dME+tME/9kEgNoEgdoEy+IEq+oEAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Julio Cruz posted:are DK progression quests bugged? The Scourge doesn’t seem to work despite it saying “summon” undead not “play” It's definitely not counting everything it should but I can't figure out the problem. I got it after two games with the unholy deck recipe.
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Quotey posted:You've done it now. https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23892222 ope lol  looks like they snuck a Ranked ban in on Gruntled Patron, too aw frig aw dang it fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Dec 9, 2022 |
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Update: I just finished a ~25 minute game of 3x Blood DK mirror, and it definitely counted all the undeads that time. Finally knocked out my opponent with a 24x Denathrius on turn 22.
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Daddy D died for Brann’s sins
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Non-troll question. I played this game again for the first time in a while and like any returners was blown away by how many stats every deck could put on the board while refilling their hand and staying at 40 (!) life. When you play the game, is it even possible to play around opponents' cards outside of a few outliers? Or are you mostly focused on advancing your own board state?
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No Wave posted:Non-troll question. I played this game again for the first time in a while and like any returners was blown away by how many stats every deck could put on the board while refilling their hand and staying at 40 (!) life. When you play the game, is it even possible to play around opponents' cards outside of a few outliers? Or are you mostly focused on advancing your own board state? Theotar, Mutanius, and Patchwerk are pretty important right now mostly for attempting to stop your opponent's combos.
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Yeah recent hand disruption mechanics make playaroud super important. Also the infuse mechanic encourages you to keep some cards in hand for a long time increasing the chance of disruption. Eg the main demon hunter deck right now only has 3 minions. One of them (xymox) you need to keep in hand while 5 of your generated minions die. The most common opponent deck I've faced with it this week (control demon knight) has potentially 3 different ways to ruin your hand (mutanis, theotar and patchwork). Or any deck using denathrius as a finisher (or any combo gimmick really) is super vulnerable to the same stuff. Mage also has a counter minion as well as counter spell. Hunter has really disruptive powerful secrets. avantgardener fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Dec 9, 2022 |
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me, earlier: well I've got these DK quests not completing properly so I guess I'll play some Arena, worked out well enough yesterday 
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Am I crazy for thinking about cutting Xymox from Relic DH? It seems like he's too slow for the faster matchups and in the slower ones he needs to hang out in your hand as the only possible minion to get snyped by Mutanus or Patchwork.
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This has been working pretty ok so far well into platinum, seems to handle a lot of things thrown its way so far — ### Squirt # Class: Death Knight # Format: Standard # Year of the Hydra # # 2x (1) Body Bagger # 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn # 2x (2) Battlefield Necromancer # 2x (2) Bonedigger Geist # 2x (2) Dark Transformation # 2x (2) Necrotic Mortician # 1x (3) Blightfang # 1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard # 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron # 2x (3) Nerubian Vizier # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 2x (3) Soulbreaker # 1x (3) Unholy Frenzy # 2x (3) Venomous Scorpid # 2x (4) Death Strike # 2x (4) Tomb Guardians # 1x (5) Army of the Dead # 2x (5) Corpse Bride # 2x (5) Possessifier # 2x (6) Gnome Muncher # 1x (6) Sylvanas, the Accused # 1x (7) Patchwerk # 1x (9) The Scourge # 1x (10) Sire Denathrius # 2x (10) Stitched Giant # AAECAYjaBQrp0ASY1ASM5ASQ5ASJ5gSX7wSk7wTa8QTipAXNpQUPlugD6uME9OMEjeQEkeQEqeYE0/EE1fEEh/YEsvcEs/cEtPcEmIEF3YIFopkFAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone It’s using a general unholy shell with just one blood rune because patchwerk and gnome muncher are so strong. The corpse generation from Soulbreaker is super important if you want to drop corpse bride and a giant or two on turn 5.
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Patrick Spens posted:Am I crazy for thinking about cutting Xymox from Relic DH? It seems like he's too slow for the faster matchups and in the slower ones he needs to hang out in your hand as the only possible minion to get snyped by Mutanus or Patchwork. No, not crazy, but results are inconclusive right now. Stheno + +2 spell power + Jace decks are out there, but they look not close to optimal
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Doji Sekushi posted:This has been working pretty ok so far well into platinum, seems to handle a lot of things thrown its way so far — yeah UUU is just too weak, something like is the way to go if one wants to have fun with Corpses
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So we've left Brann as is, and made Daddy D into more of a Druid card, as the only one able to generate enough deaths to utilise him. Right-o. Shoot. The loving. Dwarf. Blizzard.
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Shockeh posted:So we've left Brann as is, and made Daddy D into more of a Druid card, as the only one able to generate enough deaths to utilise him. Right-o. There's another patch planned for a few weeks from now. These are just the "jesus christ, we need to stop this before Worlds" changes, so there's still hope.
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