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Idk man predatory to me is lootbox poo poo and game pass poo poo, Fortnight and Overwatch and Diablo Immortal and the like. Comparing to DRG for what it's worth is always going to leave you disappointed because those guys are great and seem like some of the most level headed devs in the industry, DRG is like barely monetized at all. VT 2 had no "end game" at all upon release and people played the poo poo out of it. Tbh I like that. More games should aspire to be things you just play after awhile. I find always grinding towards a goal to be a bit tedious.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 02:42 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:03 |
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Add anime gacha to Darktide imo
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 02:53 |
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Vargs posted:Add anime gacha to Darktide imo unironically give me waifus e: also if I could have alternate skins to buy for the god damned Zealot penance equipment I've unlocked that would be great. S.J. fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Dec 9, 2022 |
# ? Dec 9, 2022 02:56 |
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I think the "complete" missions weekly thing should count difficulty as a multiplier. If you do a difficulty 5 mission that counts as 5 missions.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:13 |
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As someone who has embraced gaming dystopia, I can't even buy Aquilas because clicking on one of the dollar amount buttons locks my game behind a loading icon that never resolves
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:17 |
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they should let us fight and kill a whole squad of space marines just to make insufferable space marine fanboys mad
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:18 |
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What'll make-or-break the monetization for me is how they'll price actual new content. New classes will probably be priced, especially if they play significantly different from the current roster, but if maps and encounters are locked behind cash I'll be cheesed
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:20 |
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Diephoon posted:As someone who has embraced gaming dystopia, I can't even buy Aquilas because clicking on one of the dollar amount buttons locks my game behind a loading icon that never resolves Do you have your Steam overlay off?
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:22 |
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Orv posted:Do you have your Steam overlay off? I do! I remember someone suggesting to turn that off to improve performance and I didn't make the connection, thanks! Now to wait and see if the next spendie shop rotation has anything appealing. I noticed the shop timer is gone, I wonder why they removed it.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:28 |
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IronicDongz posted:they should let us fight and kill a whole squad of space marines just to make insufferable space marine fanboys mad On April Fools every poxwalker gets replaced with a character model from the Adeptus Custodes.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:28 |
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Diephoon posted:As someone who has embraced gaming dystopia, I can't even buy Aquilas because clicking on one of the dollar amount buttons locks my game behind a loading icon that never resolves What are you even planning to buy out of curiosity
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:28 |
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IronicDongz posted:they should let us fight and kill a whole squad of space marines just to make insufferable space marine fanboys mad this is the only acceptable reason for this and i agree
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:30 |
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lol is there any point whatsoever to the background choices you make when creating a character? the classes and their abilities are so lame compared to VT2 the game actually controls and plays great but so many things are worse than VT2 its wild
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I've never bought a microtransaction in my life. And I have like 2k hours in DOTA. This game's completely fine to me.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:34 |
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Captain Beans posted:lol is there any point whatsoever to the background choices you make when creating a character? the classes and their abilities are so lame compared to VT2 Some eye colors appear to be locked to specific home worlds and it flavors the dialogue between classes to some extent. Haven't noticed anything besides those, I don't think there's any gameplay difference.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:39 |
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IronicDongz posted:they should let us fight and kill a whole squad of space marines just to make insufferable space marine fanboys mad wait i've changed my mind about including space marines in darktide
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:50 |
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Plasma guns and the projected meltas are pretty much there for killing marines too. The idea that space marines are unkillable gods is lore dudes getting too high on their own supply
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 03:56 |
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Some eye colors appear to be locked to specific home worlds and it flavors the dialogue between classes to some extent. Haven't noticed anything besides those, I don't think there's any gameplay difference. Choosing Cadia gives you access to the purple eye colors for any of the classes and I believe one of the vet voice options is specific to Cadia. So, nothing matters except if you're from Cadia or not.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:01 |
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Did somebody mention Cadia in here?
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:09 |
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Mendrian posted:Idk man predatory to me is lootbox poo poo and game pass poo poo, Fortnight and Overwatch and Diablo Immortal and the like. Comparing to DRG for what it's worth is always going to leave you disappointed because those guys are great and seem like some of the most level headed devs in the industry, DRG is like barely monetized at all. Personally, I'd also wager that the lootbox system incentivized people to play more than the current store system. Building up your gear level was the "endgame" of the time.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:09 |
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predatory isn't what they sell it is how they sell and part of that is their second step currency and time limited offers
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:11 |
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Broken Cog posted:VT2 had a lot more varied content on release. 15 classes, and levels with a lot more different themes than what Darktide has so far, it's no wonder people played it more. I mean "building up your gear level" was just opening boxes until the number went up, and grinding the gear into dust to roll more loot. In that way, "play for x amount of time and roll for loot" is exactly the same. I agree on a lot of the points, VT had more varied levels (and the level goals felt more varied), and I agree the shop feels bad and that's its not really a good call to release the game with crafting unfinished. VT2 was also a trashfire for like a year and it was only the game's core gameplay and personality that kept people playing it. There was almost a full year of radio silence from Fatshark too which did not earn a lot of goodwill from the community. The fact it's as good as it is now is really a miracle. A lot of my expectations for DT is built around how they respond to the game's problems because compared to VT2 this game is way more stable (I know lol) but content-dry , so it's kind of the opposite problem. If we're still having this conversation in 4 months I'll probably shift my opinion slightly.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:16 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:I've never bought a microtransaction in my life. And I have like 2k hours in DOTA. I purchased 14000 Aquila and bought a bunch of cosmetics.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:18 |
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Feels appropriate to drop this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWChMr17Le8
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:20 |
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I love this autogun because it knocks whole groups of maulers and ragers on their arse and then kills them while they struggle to get up
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:22 |
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Mendrian posted:I mean "building up your gear level" was just opening boxes until the number went up, and grinding the gear into dust to roll more loot. In that way, "play for x amount of time and roll for loot" is exactly the same. And still, it was a ton of fun to just play over and over, I would absolutely not say it was a trashfire, and that feels more like people trying to deflect the criticism of DT by retroactively making GBS threads on VT2. The cast and the presentation was just top notch, so playing a level didn't feel quite as much as ~work~ as the levels in DT do. And if you grew tired of a certain playstyle, there were a ton more to try out. And that aside, you'd really think Fatshark would improve on what they've done before, not take steps backwards. It always feels bad when a new product feels worse than an old one. Edit: I'll also add I think this game has had more pure technical problems with crashes and server issues/disconnects than VT2. Despite VT2 having a lot of broken mechanics, I don't think it ever stopped me from playing. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Dec 9, 2022 |
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Enjoy posted:I love this autogun because it knocks whole groups of maulers and ragers on their arse and then kills them while they struggle to get up That gun having powerful stagger for an automatic rifle makes it, IMO. If it doesn't kill, it'll knockdown and that's good enough most of the time.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:34 |
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Enjoy posted:I love this autogun because it knocks whole groups of maulers and ragers on their arse and then kills them while they struggle to get up I have a 454 Graia and Columnus that I've upgraded, but I've been looking to make pretty much exactly this to round out the set and the shop hasn't given me even a bad Agripinaa Braced Autogun.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:49 |
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I think they underestimated how hard it would be to start nearly from scratch. VT2 has VT1 to build on but 40k is very different. That explains why the game was so delayed while still launching with way less than VT2 did.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 04:50 |
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Third World Reagan posted:predatory isn't what they sell They removed the timers from the store, though.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:09 |
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Sorry if this has been noted before, but I have noticed quite frequently that attack clicks simply don't register, maybe due to a lag spike; this is something that never happened in Vermintide (at most the attack gets delayed), but in Darktide it seems that attacks simply don't happen occasionally, and it feels much worse.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:23 |
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Archonex posted:If it helps, the cash shop looks almost exactly like an updated layout and format of the one in Age of Conan, which belongs to Tencent as well since they acquired Funcom and AoC suddenly changed over to a battlepass and cash shop instead of putting out DLC regularly like they had been doing before the cash shop came along. So yeah. It's probably a case of the usual lovely launch from Fatshark coupled with Tencent's monetization schemes. So the state of the game is probably because they wanted the christmas rush after they had spent so long hyping it up. lmao are you loving kidding me are you seriously saying that a bunch of randomly arranged rectangles is enough to make you suspect the sinister hand of tencent behind everything you need to spend less on time on reddit, it is rotting your brain
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:24 |
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overwatch 2 cash shop also has rectangles
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:30 |
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And Ruffles has ridges!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:31 |
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Cease to Hope posted:lmao are you loving kidding me No, I think he's saying that both games are owned by tencent and seem to have somewhat aesthetically similar layouts to their cash shops. Settle down, Beavis.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:33 |
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man voidstrike staff is fun
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:34 |
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i was worried that spamming it would stop being effective in heresy but it's still good. just eats up hoards.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:36 |
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Mendrian posted:Did somebody mention Cadia in here? the game broke before the guard did
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:42 |
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Kamikaze Raider posted:No, I think he's saying that both games are owned by tencent and seem to have somewhat aesthetically similar layouts to their cash shops. he literally hotlinked it from reddit
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:55 |
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afaik people are literally just making poo poo up, I have a hard time imagining tencent gives a poo poo. they just buy up already successful properties and eat a percentage of their revenue.
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# ? Dec 9, 2022 05:58 |