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Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

pseudanonymous posted:

Honestly Amex cards are all about subs and travel. Weird categories, statement credits and offers.

Cruise Ship offers they are best. You can pre buy casino chips and cash them in for cash. They got wise and prevented multiple cards but they started working again so ymmv

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Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


Unsinkabear posted:

Given that nerdwallet is corrupt as hell these days, I would trust that smaller number.
What happened to them?

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

smackfu posted:

Where’s that 2.8x Hyatt number coming from? Super high end properties? High season?

I just was looking at Hyatts in NYC for March and I’d say the value ranged from 1.7x to 2.1x and the 2.1x was at the Park Hyatt for 80k points for a $1700 stay.

Edit: guess that is Nerdwallets estimate and others value them more like 1.7x.

Hyatt boosted the categories on most of its hotels not too long ago. That 80k point Park Hyatt stay was 60k points ~6 months ago.

Elysium fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Dec 1, 2022

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Bentai posted:

What happened to them?

Their reviews are heavily biased towards advertisers and companies that give them referral bonus.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





If people aren't already aware of that, maybe we should update the OP? The current first sentence is a link to Nerdwallet's top card list and a claim that we all mostly agree with it. (It is an understatement to say that I do not, lol)

Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Dec 1, 2022

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Or maybe it's time to start drafting a new OP for a new megathread.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Lol, you volunteering?

I just figured that since THF13 is still around and I don't know if anyone else has time to tackle a full thread rewrite, it would probably be easier to just fix that one small glaring problem. At least get that out of there for now, then if someone wants to start a new thread they can work on it at their leisure.

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.
I can give the OP a once-over and update it today or tomorrow, feel free to chime in with anything you think should be added/edited/removed. On the todo list
  • Remove nerdwallet links/recommendations
  • Add DoctorOfCredit as a good source for credit card details, specifics and reviews
  • Add link to dedicated churning thread

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Maybe someone else can think of another suggestion or two, but that sounds perfect to me!

Nur_Neerg
Sep 1, 2004

The Lumbering but Unstoppable Sasquatch of the Appalachians
Hyatt redemption varies pretty heavily based on where as well; Hyatt Maui is currently ~$600 a night, 25k points. So for 6 nights, you're looking at $3600 or 150k points or ~2.4 cents per point.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

THF13 posted:

I can give the OP a once-over and update it today or tomorrow, feel free to chime in with anything you think should be added/edited/removed. On the todo list
  • Remove nerdwallet links/recommendations
  • Add DoctorOfCredit as a good source for credit card details, specifics and reviews
  • Add link to dedicated churning thread

You have the ref sheet in there, thanks for remembering!

Atahualpa
Aug 18, 2015

A lucky bird.
Update on the continuing saga of my Citi cashback since I know you're all deeply, deeply invested: it's finally giving me the option to deposit the funds directly to my bank account! Apparently you need to pay three bills first, not two as the Citi rep told me.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


THF13 posted:

I can give the OP a once-over and update it today or tomorrow, feel free to chime in with anything you think should be added/edited/removed. On the todo list
  • Remove nerdwallet links/recommendations
  • Add DoctorOfCredit as a good source for credit card details, specifics and reviews
  • Add link to dedicated churning thread

Thanks for continuing to update the OP!

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Three more no-fee 2% cash back cards:

Wells Fargo Active Cash - nice SUB and perks, including option to redeem cash back in $20 increments at a Wells Fargo ATM.
FNBO Evergreen - Straightforward choice from First National Bank of Omaha.
Synchrony Premier - Also straightforward, plus some Lyft, DoorDash, and Hello Fresh perks.

If someone wants to stick with the Wells Fargo ecosystem, then pairing an Active Cash with WF's Autograph card is a great one-two combo:

3% back on travel, gas, restaurants, streaming, and phone plans with the Autograph, then 2% back on everything else with the Active Cash.
(I avoid Wells Fargo like the plague, but I know enough people who passively stick by them that I have this spiel down pat.)

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Shroomie posted:

Alternatively, if you've got the Reserve, you can wipe out dining purchases at 1.5 cents per point.

Right now the Preferred only has Airbnb and charities as pay yourself back categories. Does the Reserve have dining as a bonus permanent one or something?

runawayturtles
Aug 2, 2004

Unsinkabear posted:

Right now the Preferred only has Airbnb and charities as pay yourself back categories. Does the Reserve have dining as a bonus permanent one or something?

It has had it since they started PYB at least, not sure if it's permanent.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Space Fish posted:

Three more no-fee 2% cash back cards...
(I avoid Wells Fargo like the plague, but I know enough people who passively stick by them that I have this spiel down pat.)

Same here. They have my oldest card, and it will probably remain my only WF card.

Do either of the other two you mentioned have zero minimum on redemptions? I use penfed as my 2% card and while they're not my favorite to deal with, the convenience is incredibly hard to replace. Every month it autopays and dumps that month's cash back into my external bank account without me having to do anything, no matter how much or how little it is.

runawayturtles posted:

It has had it since they started PYB at least, not sure if it's permanent.

Hasn't it been a couple years of it now? Maybe not permanent but seems consistent enough that I should redo my math on whether the Preferred or Reserve makes me more. I give Taco Bell way too much money that I could be PYBing

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Unsinkabear posted:

Do either of the other two you mentioned have zero minimum on redemptions?

FNBO Evergreen redeems in increments of $25 for cash back or minimum of $10 for gift cards.

Synchrony Premier has monthly auto-redemption.

Atahualpa
Aug 18, 2015

A lucky bird.
The monthly eBill for my Bank of America card is sent to my Ally Bank account; if I set it up on Ally's website to pay the "account balance" on the due date under Bill Pay -> Recurring Payments would that effectively achieve the same thing as setting it to autopay the statement balance through BoA's site? Should I expect there to be any delays in it posting to my BoA account since I'm not paying directly through them?

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

Atahualpa posted:

The monthly eBill for my Bank of America card is sent to my Ally Bank account; if I set it up on Ally's website to pay the "account balance" on the due date under Bill Pay -> Recurring Payments would that effectively achieve the same thing as setting it to autopay the statement balance through BoA's site? Should I expect there to be any delays in it posting to my BoA account since I'm not paying directly through them?

If you set the recurring payment a few days before the credit card due date, there won't be any issues, except for losing a very small amount of interest. The bonus for doing this from BofA's side is that many places will credit the payment a day or so ahead of when they actually pull the money, especially if payments fall over weekends. That means money stays in your account longer, with the same security of never having delays impact payment timing. The difference is pretty negligible though unless you're putting thousands in spend on the card every month.

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!
I have a Citi trio and am thinking about pairing a traveling card that gives perks for when I convert points. Is there a good option for this I’m getting lost in the options a bit trying to figure it out

Atahualpa
Aug 18, 2015

A lucky bird.

saintonan posted:

If you set the recurring payment a few days before the credit card due date, there won't be any issues, except for losing a very small amount of interest. The bonus for doing this from BofA's side is that many places will credit the payment a day or so ahead of when they actually pull the money, especially if payments fall over weekends. That means money stays in your account longer, with the same security of never having delays impact payment timing. The difference is pretty negligible though unless you're putting thousands in spend on the card every month.

Thanks! Yeah, I'd prefer to do it through BoA themselves for that very reason + the certainty of knowing my bill will be paid on exactly the due date each month, but they seem to go out of their way to make it difficult. I just set up my other cards with autopay last week, and each one took about two minutes. With BoA, I'm two hours in with no progress whatsoever. Their site/UI sucks, their help system is useless, and every tutorial I've found about setting up autopay involves steps that aren't available to me. (E.g., links on the Bill Pay page that don't show up for me - I've seen exactly where they should be in screenshots/videos and they're just... not there.) I even tried calling customer service; they weren't able to help and forwarded me to a supervisor who promptly hung up. From what I've read, this is a pretty standard BoA customer service experience.

I promise I'm not as technologically inept as my posts ITT make it sound BTW, for some reason this only comes up with regards to credit cards. And it isn't an issue of the account being too new this time either, I've had this card for around a decade.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Any tips for getting some cash back on rent? I'll even settle for some stupid points. Currently I Venmo my roommate/landlord every month. He doesn't care how he gets his money as long as he gets it.

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Any tips for getting some cash back on rent? I'll even settle for some stupid points. Currently I Venmo my roommate/landlord every month. He doesn't care how he gets his money as long as he gets it.

Can you PayPal instead and get 5% back on the flex and 3% on a paypal card?

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
Look into the Bilt Mastercard, although I don’t know if they allow payments to private individuals.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

If I still have an old Chase Freedom, can I product change a CSR into a Freedom Flex?

Edit: Nevermind, I thought Freedom Flex replaced Freedom but I guess they are different.

smackfu fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Dec 12, 2022

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





As far as I know the Freedom Flex's extra rewards (vs the old Freedom) are all present from the Freedom Unlimited as well. So if you have the CFU and the original CF, as many of us do, there's no reason to worry about a Flex.

You might even argue that the OG is better in that scenario, because it can be used at Costco

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.

Unsinkabear posted:

As far as I know the Freedom Flex's extra rewards (vs the old Freedom) are all present from the Freedom Unlimited as well. So if you have the CFU and the original CF, as many of us do, there's no reason to worry about a Flex.

You might even argue that the OG is better in that scenario, because it can be used at Costco

CFU doesn't get the 5x rotating category.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





No, the regular Freedom has that.

Hence the emphasis on "the Freedom Flex's extra perks (vs the old Freedom)." As in, the stuff that isn't the core selling point perk that both versions of the card have always had

Also hence the "if you already have the CFU and the original CF"

Shroomie
Jul 31, 2008

I'd try PCing to a second OG Freedom card first, just to leave the possibility open for getting a SUB on the Flex.

That being said, I've seen recent reports of reps having no idea what people are talking about when they call in to do that.

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.
Alright, just want to point out there is an advantage to having multiple Freedoms if you can take advantage of the 5x categories, since they are capped at $1500 per quarter per card.

Shroomie posted:

I'd try PCing to a second OG Freedom card first, just to leave the possibility open for getting a SUB on the Flex.

That being said, I've seen recent reports of reps having no idea what people are talking about when they call in to do that.

I actually did this recently, apparently they call the OG Freedom "Freedom with Ultimate Rewards" fyi.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

So this is probably the wrong thread, but correct audience

My wife has an unpredictable schedule and travels a lot for work. I end up playing nanny and traveling with her and my daughter often so we're booking a lot of air miles. I wouldn't be surprised if our toddler has been on 10 flights this year (so far)

We've been booking our travel through American Express at competitive rates (compared to Google flight rates), and often times we cancel legs or the whole trips, and then rebook with no fee. I think we had a Charlotte-Boston-SFO and then rebooked it later for NYC-DC-SFO-Charolette on a different week, the morning of

Anyways I guess what I'm asking is, is there a better way to handle all this, than through amex travel like we've been doing. We went from zero to 100 in terms of travel and so far reclaiming credits seems to be successful? Should we go find a different travel agent or is amex the correct solution

Currently on hold with amex rerouting travel for tomorrow to SE Asia to, I guess Spain and Morocco, and then Mexico and our credit got eaten by the system so waiting to hear back on the ticketing being confirmed

On topic: this all goes through our amex platinum which was recommended by this thread

Shroomie
Jul 31, 2008

Hadlock posted:

So this is probably the wrong thread, but correct audience

My wife has an unpredictable schedule and travels a lot for work. I end up playing nanny and traveling with her and my daughter often so we're booking a lot of air miles. I wouldn't be surprised if our toddler has been on 10 flights this year (so far)

We've been booking our travel through American Express at competitive rates (compared to Google flight rates), and often times we cancel legs or the whole trips, and then rebook with no fee. I think we had a Charlotte-Boston-SFO and then rebooked it later for NYC-DC-SFO-Charolette on a different week, the morning of

Anyways I guess what I'm asking is, is there a better way to handle all this, than through amex travel like we've been doing. We went from zero to 100 in terms of travel and so far reclaiming credits seems to be successful? Should we go find a different travel agent or is amex the correct solution

Currently on hold with amex rerouting travel for tomorrow to SE Asia to, I guess Spain and Morocco, and then Mexico and our credit got eaten by the system so waiting to hear back on the ticketing being confirmed

On topic: this all goes through our amex platinum which was recommended by this thread

The Business Travel Thread is probably the thread you're looking for here.

I book directly with the airline unless there is an incentive to book through a travel portal (i.e. the point rebate you get with Amex biz cards). I've just seen too many stories where people are stuck in an airport somewhere and the travel agency is telling the person to call the airline and the airline is telling the person to call the travel agency and they just can't get anywhere.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Oh cool perfect. Hey look it's the exact same 25 goons I see in all the other threads I frequent

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Hadlock posted:

Oh cool perfect. Hey look it's the exact same 25 goons I see in all the other threads I frequent

I think a project mapping goons who post to threads to other goons who post to those threads and then running cross referencing would be really interesting. Six degrees of separation from people you'd probably prefer to have sixty.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

It might just be that the goons who travel for work have an outsize amount of idle time in 10-45 minute segments either in airports or other travel delays and those get converted into posts and I'm statistically more likely to see them

At one point I briefly considered what would be required to see if Motronic is statistically more likely to get probated at the end of the month/quarter than not but realized I'll never have the time to do that

Was not at all surprised to kengriffy, kill hour, movax, resident evil, and a whole lot of others over there

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Dec 25, 2022

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Hadlock posted:

Was not at all surprised to kengriffy, kill hour, movax, resident evil, and a whole lot of others over there

:ghost: boo

Atahualpa
Aug 18, 2015

A lucky bird.
I read that you can apply for business credit cards as a sole proprietor using your SSN in lieu of an EIN if you've got something you can claim as income (e.g., Ebay sales). How legitimate is that and would the IRS frown on it in any way? I'm eyeing that $900 SUB on the Chase Ink Business Cash card.

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.

Atahualpa posted:

I read that you can apply for business credit cards as a sole proprietor using your SSN in lieu of an EIN if you've got something you can claim as income (e.g., Ebay sales). How legitimate is that and would the IRS frown on it in any way? I'm eyeing that $900 SUB on the Chase Ink Business Cash card.

Unless you're using that to do something shady like fake losses to lower your income the IRS will have no issue.
You need to see if your State allows it. I've done it in New York, needed to use my full name as the Business name and SSN as EIN and it was fine. (check this is still the case before doing it, it was a few years ago).

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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

One weird thing is that they will often put both the business name and your name on the card, so for a sole prop it will have your name twice.

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