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withoutclass posted:Finally, a shot at owning an Ionic 5. I will win this.
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Oh no, my chances of winning are decreasing! Just kidding I would love a good to win.
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I’m winning it and then I’m gonna do an engine swap with my Tesla.
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bird with big dick posted:I’m winning it and then I’m gonna do an engine swap with my Tesla. Makes sense, get a nice reliable Hyundai powertrain in a sedan body without having to wait for the Ionic 6.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Sj2jJmug8 Sandy spends almost 45 minutes giving Canoo a blowjob.
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bird with big dick posted:I’m winning it and then I’m gonna do an engine swap with my Tesla. THEY AREN'T ENGINES THEY'RE MOTORS. Pretty sure I'm right on this.
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“a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.” I dunno man
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Nfcknblvbl posted:“a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.” Arguably the rotor in the motor is the only moving part, so the plurality of "parts" excludes it. In other news, Volvo is changing their C40s and XC40s with one motor from FWD to RWD in the 2023 model year.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:“a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.”
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FilthyImp posted:I believe those are called "Motivators" We really missed out not using Mr. Burns’ car terminology for EVs. It’s not the gas pedal, it’s the velocitator. The car has regenerative braking, but you can press the deceleratrix to slow down faster.
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Sonic Dude posted:We really missed out not using Mr. Burns’ car terminology for EVs. It’s not the gas pedal, it’s the velocitator. The car has regenerative braking, but you can press the deceleratrix to slow down faster. We haven't been allowed to have retarded timing for a while
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Lexus in development of a manual transmission for electric cars https://twitter.com/evomagazine/status/1599819892466786307 It's completely fake. There is no transmission and the gear stick does nothing. 
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Saukkis posted:Lexus in development of a manual transmission for electric cars Leapfrogging the competition's "fake exhaust noises on your stereo" feature.
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Turning gearheads into audiophiles with magic rocks that cost $6000
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If they really want a little stick to play with, just give it a solid mechanical clunkiness feel and make it the select for park-neutral-reverse-drive-eco-sport. There, 6 options your fake little mechanical knob can satisfyingly clunk into.
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Dec 11, 2022 18:40
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Saukkis posted:Lexus in development of a manual transmission for electric cars The Driver’s Car Man stick shift obsessed people are so weird
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Saukkis posted:It's completely fake. There is no transmission and the gear stick does nothing. It's perfect
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I recently drove an newish ICE rental (Nissan Rogue) after having driven nothing but my model 3 for the last three months, and it’s insane how the little things add up. Okay need to turn the engine off, take the key out, turn the lights off (why does it beep at me for leaving the lights on? If the car knows about it turn it off rear end in a top hat!), make sure the key is in my hands and then don’t forget to lock the door. And there’s the gears. Hearing the engine strain at 5500rpm wondering when the gently caress it’s gonna get to 3rd because I’m on a slight incline and this pos 4 banger is geared for 40mpg so it almost refuses to move was maddening. The like 4” screen in the middle of the dash just felt like an insult. I know, I’m comparing the bottom of the barrel ice against an ev twice the price, but it really put into perspective how loving nice modern EV’s are!
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Most of those things have nothing to do with ICE vs EV though. Go jump into a Leaf and all the behaviour with lights, keys, engine start/stop buttons will be the same as the Rogue.
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Nuts and Gum posted:I recently drove an newish ICE rental (Nissan Rogue) after having driven nothing but my model 3 for the last three months, and it’s insane how the little things add up. Okay need to turn the engine off, take the key out, turn the lights off (why does it beep at me for leaving the lights on? If the car knows about it turn it off rear end in a top hat!), make sure the key is in my hands and then don’t forget to lock the door. the Rogue is safer, for you and for your passengers (esp rear seat passengers), and for other people around you
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Ok Comboomer posted:the Rogue is safer, for you and for your passengers (esp rear seat passengers), and for other people around you I was a danger on the road with that rogue since it’s a huge slow boat that accelerates on its own and requires the use of two pedals!
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My previous vehicle was a Nissan Altima and it wasn't really that bad. I gave it to my sister and recently drove it across the country when I helped her move (although a couple months ago it was totalled in an accident, RIP), it really wasn't bad compared to a Model 3. It had push button start so you only needed the key fob to be in your pocket so turning it on and off was the simple push of the brake and tap a button, the headlights turned on and off automatically, and the door lock/unlock was a simple and easy button press on the exterior handle. Tesla takes most of that one tiny step further but it isn't a huge difference. Sure it was less powerful or responsive than a freaking Model 3 Performance, but it wasn't horribly underpowered because it was a modest 3000 pound midsize sedan instead of some obnoxiously huge and heavy "crossover" with the same engine like a rogue.
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yeah god forbid it would be the 3,450 lb rogue instead of the svelte and lean 3,244 lb altima 
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Nuts and Gum posted:I recently drove an newish ICE rental (Nissan Rogue) after having driven nothing but my model 3 for the last three months, and it’s insane how the little things add up. Okay need to turn the engine off, take the key out, turn the lights off (why does it beep at me for leaving the lights on? If the car knows about it turn it off rear end in a top hat!), make sure the key is in my hands and then don’t forget to lock the door. This is why EVs are still a luxury product in a lot of ways. None of this stuff matters to regular people. Oh no the engine is revving lol.
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Replace the regen pads with a stick and give them like 10 levels instead of the 3 or 4 currently available. That should scratch the manual itch.
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Ok Comboomer posted:the Rogue is safer, for you and for your passengers (esp rear seat passengers), and for other people around you No it isn’t.
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Safer is such a relative term, who's to say whether it's more or less safe that the rear doors can't be opened during an emergency?
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QuarkJets posted:Safer is such a relative term, who's to say whether it's more or less safe that the rear doors can't be opened during an emergency? Also not true.
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bird with big dick posted:Also not true. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7A32EC01-A17E-42CC-A15B-2E0A39FD07AB.html quote:Model 3 doors are electrically powered. To open a front door in the unlikely situation when Model 3 has no power, pull up the manual door release located in front of the window switches. 
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You said they can’t be opened during an emergency. The rear doors can be opened normally in nearly all emergencies because nearly all emergencies don’t result in loss of 12v power. Safety ratings are determined by testing and data, not speculation.
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Tom Guycot posted:If they really want a little stick to play with, just give it a solid mechanical clunkiness feel and make it the select for park-neutral-reverse-drive-eco-sport. There, 6 options your fake little mechanical knob can satisfyingly clunk into. No no no no no no no That's not a manual (  )That's an automatic (  )
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Russian Bear posted:This is why EVs are still a luxury product in a lot of ways. None of this stuff matters to regular people. Oh no the engine is revving lol. Mmm yes regular people. 
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Tiny Timbs posted:The Driver’s Car forumban this guy
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Nuts and Gum posted:Mmm yes regular people. All the bs you’re complaining about isn’t even present on new cars that aren’t bottom barrel rental stripped models. But your post reads like one of those commercials on late night TV that’s selling a useless product because “do you struggle with a [simple task]?”
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Nuts and Gum posted:And there’s the gears. Hearing the engine strain at 5500rpm wondering when the gently caress it’s gonna get to 3rd because I’m on a slight incline and this pos 4 banger is geared for 40mpg so it almost refuses to move was maddening. My wife has a 2020 Rogue, and this drives me nuts too. Not just because it has a hard time picking a gear, but because the shifts are fake. The Rogue has a CVT. It could be smooth the entire time, and it’s just not, and I don’t understand why. Anecdotally, that’s been the biggest selling point for EVs among friends who have ridden with me and are now considering an electric car: the completely smooth (and silent, unlike a CVT) acceleration from any speed to any other speed.
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Russian Bear posted:All the bs you’re complaining about isn’t even present on new cars that aren’t bottom barrel rental stripped models. That’s sort of my point, modern ev’s come with this poo poo built in, ICE cars gate it behind premium ‘tech’ bundles. Why are you so angry I find these little modern luxuries add up to a good user experience? What would you rather discuss, here in the dedicated EV thread? I guess if you aren’t angry at Teslas you aren’t supposed to post here.
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Nuts and Gum posted:I guess if you aren’t angry at Teslas you aren’t supposed to post here. Maybe we should separate the “poo poo on Tesla and FSD” topic (the latter half of which is especially valid) into its own thread? That way the EV thread can be about EVs, which Tesla makes reasonably good examples of, instead of EVs plus ol’ Musky’s computer taxi woes.
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Sonic Dude posted:Maybe we should separate the “poo poo on Tesla and FSD” topic (the latter half of which is especially valid) into its own thread? That way the EV thread can be about EVs, which Tesla makes reasonably good examples of, instead of EVs plus ol’ Musky’s computer taxi woes. Hard pass, you'd just wind up with 2 threads posting about all of the same things. Tesla and FSD discussions tend to be pretty short and are not distracting from other EV topics, of which there are still many This conversation wasn't even about Tesla, Nuts and Gum just dropped that out of nowhere. Having a separate Tesla thread wouldn't have changed that
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