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GD_American posted:Is it a problem for P365s too? No idea, just saw an article about the P320 specifically the other day. Didn't see P365 mentioned though.
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Alan Smithee posted:Jesus did they outsource those to Taurus Didnt see anything about the barrel as a second projectile so probably not
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Wasabi the J posted:drat, my Sig P6 doesn't even have a safety, just 12 pounds of "are you sure?" and a de-cocker. I had a P226 before I moved. I would have absolutely carried that thing into combat - best handgun I ever shot.
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psydude posted:I had a P226 before I moved. I would have absolutely carried that thing into combat - best handgun I ever shot. I still have my sig p226r in stainless steel I carried for work for 8 years. Best goddamn service pistol. Safety’s are dumb anyways. A gun isn’t safe duh.
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Jimmy Smuts posted:The M9's safety lever is so drat useless, it'd keep switching from safe to fire while sitting in my holster. Hopefully the P320's safety is better. That's a holster problem not the pistols fault
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Jimmy Smuts posted:The M9's safety lever is so drat useless, it'd keep switching from safe to fire while sitting in my holster. Hopefully the P320's safety is better. "It's a decocker, not a safety." The 5th Special Forces Group SOP was to have the M9 on "fire" the whole time. With the first shot double action trigger pull, it was safe enough like that. So do your string of firing, top up if needed, decocker (safe then fire), then holster. I never had a M9, but instead the M11 (Sig P228) and Glock 19. One deployment, my team kept going to a big Army COP, and without fail they would give my one Soldier poo poo for having his M9 on fire, hammer down, in his holster. If I could get there before he just complied, I would explain our unit's SOP, as well as ask them what I should do regarding my Glock 19. Welp, that's my M9 decocker story. The M17 and M18 safety is leaps and bounds better than the M9. They frame mounted and move pretty easily. I'm usually opposed to safeties on pistols, because if you are pulling your pistol from the holster you need as few steps as possible to fire it before you die; however, I don't mind the safety on the Sig. I haven't tested the trigger pull with a scale or anything, but it feels light. It also doesn't have a "foot" or other sort of trigger safety ala Glocks or M&Ps, so much like a 1911 I'm happy to use the safety.
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mlmp08 posted:M9s, when new, were probably just fine; lots of people love Beretta 92-series handguns. But 35 years of being slammed around arms rooms and field training and deployments weren't great for them. Mine was clapped out as gently caress, and that was in the mid 1990's. Very loose slide to frame fit and there was absolutely no blueing left on the barrel. Flikken posted:That's a holster problem not the pistols fault Never had a problem with the safety on the M9, but then again as an Armor company we were still using the old M1911 leather shoulder holsters. The M9 was just crammed in there and eventually the leather (sorta) molded over it. Gotta say it was really convenient as you could take off your LBV and still have your weapon on your person. Itchy_Grundle fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Dec 10, 2022 |
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GD_American posted:Is it a problem for P365s too? It is/was a problem for the initial batches of non military p320’s only I believe. There is something different about the drop safety on the m17/18 vs the vanilla p320, so supposedly they don’t have this issue. I remember this cropping up a few years ago, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t fixed by now. The p365 had other issues, but I don’t think the drop safety was one
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the P320 drop firing was a high publicity thing a few years back. If I recall correctly, they changed a few things to fix it: reduced the mass of the trigger, striker, and sear; changed the geometry of the sear somehow, and then something about the trigger disconnect which I don't remember anything about.
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Drop fires aren't the problem people (largely cops) are currently experiencing. Apparently they're going off while holstered.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Drop fires aren't the problem people (largely cops) are currently experiencing. Apparently they're going off while holstered. That's gotta be an oh shi moment
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Absolute butthole clencher. On topic: I read an article earlier today where Ukraine and the US were debating sending cluster munitions. I think it was from Task and Purpose, where the conclusion was that if traditional munitions were low, they would probably send them. Has anyone else seen anything about this? Wickerman fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Dec 10, 2022 |
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Drop fires aren't the problem people (largely cops) are currently experiencing. Apparently they're going off while holstered. Cops also refer to their drunken bare hands as “holsters”
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Wickerman posted:Absolute butthole clencher. no, but thats probably specifically in reference to HIMARS, since the m270 was specifically built to fire cluster munitions iirc and we're gonna decommission em all anyway
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I haven't heard much about how the front lines are moving lately? Have things slowed down to be more or less static lower intensity fighting for the winter? Are certain places moving one way or the other?
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my kinda ape posted:I haven't heard much about how the front lines are moving lately? Have things slowed down to be more or less static lower intensity fighting for the winter? Are certain places moving one way or the other? ISW assesses that Ukraine will use the hardened ground to increase the intensity of their counter-offensives throughout the winter. The fighting has been extremely intense on the Eastern front as of late, while the Southern front is still re-forming following the recapture of Kherson. The Russians are expecting an attack at Zhaporizhia, and given how understrength and battered their Southern echelons are, it's probably a reasonable assumption.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Drop fires aren't the problem people (largely cops) are currently experiencing. Apparently they're going off while holstered. Maybe if they took them out of the holster once a month or so to clean out the dust and lint this wouldn’t be such an issue.
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my kinda ape posted:I haven't heard much about how the front lines are moving lately? Have things slowed down to be more or less static lower intensity fighting for the winter? Are certain places moving one way or the other? The problem has not been winter, it's lack of winter. The mud makes traversing open ground nigh impossible, so not much movement is possible. Once it gets good and cold and the ground freezes, operations can pick up again. Armies know how to operate in winter. It is not an impediment in and of itself.
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I mean, a tactical nuke or three will take care of the lack of winter
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Clancychat; Ukraine has its own nuclear plants, and folks who built bombs for the USSR, are the plants that are still in ukraine dual use or strictly civilian? Wonder if Ukraine is sorta in the position that Japan and to a lesser extent Taiwan is, where an existential threat might make them consider moving towards some sort of bomb.
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freeasinbeer posted:Wonder if Ukraine is sorta in the position that Japan and to a lesser extent Taiwan is, where an existential threat might make them consider moving towards some sort of bomb. Japan is still hunting down those responsible for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 
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freeasinbeer posted:Clancychat; Ukraine has its own nuclear plants, and folks who built bombs for the USSR, are the plants that are still in ukraine dual use or strictly civilian? Probably no need, Ukraine joining NATO means they would likely depend on US nuclear guarantees. Most of their VVER series Pressurized Water Reactors are more than capable of producing fuel but Ukraine does not have an active weapons development program or the reprocessing capabilities needed to extract the material, they got most of their fuel supplied by Rosatom, with Westinghouse and a couple others now stepping up to the place for future fuel supply needs.
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my kinda ape posted:I haven't heard much about how the front lines are moving lately? Have things slowed down to be more or less static lower intensity fighting for the winter? Are certain places moving one way or the other? From this FT article: https://www.ft.com/content/dcdd09bf-440a-4648-9664-6084b11dddd4 quote:Rockets and mortar rounds rained down on Ukrainian military positions on the eastern edge of the city of Bakhmut, spraying shrapnel and sending troops diving for cover. Another good article from The Economist: https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/12/06/russia-is-hurling-troops-at-the-tiny-ukrainian-town-of-bakhmut
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CommieGIR posted:Probably no need, Ukraine joining NATO means they would likely depend on US nuclear guarantees. Most of their VVER series Pressurized Water Reactors are more than capable of producing fuel but Ukraine does not have an active weapons development program or the reprocessing capabilities needed to extract the material, they got most of their fuel supplied by Rosatom, with Westinghouse and a couple others now stepping up to the place for future fuel supply needs. I doubt Ukraine will ever join NATO; Hungry for one seems apt to veto it, and I can see there being objections from elsewhere.
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freeasinbeer posted:I doubt Ukraine will ever join NATO; Hungry for one seems apt to veto it, and I can see there being objections from elsewhere. Hungary will likely get forced to toe the line some way, I have doubts that they will be the thing keeping Ukraine out of NATO if anything.
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Even the best case scenario would put the Ukrainians a decade or more out from a NATO application if the alliance does basic due diligence.
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A.o.D. posted:Even the best case scenario would put the Ukrainians a decade or more out from a NATO application if the alliance does basic due diligence. Yup, but at this case they are almost an ad-hoc member state, so Hungary's threat of veto will have little impact in the end.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Japan is still hunting down those responsible for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Russia is actively throwing a whole bunch of people into a meat grinder at Bakhmut because they need a win somewhere, even though a win there gets them nothing in particular. Urban terrain and Ukrainian anti-tank weapons are keeping the Russians from using much armor so it looks like WW1, apparently down to Russian infantry getting machine gunned down as they cross no man's land towards Ukrainian entrenchments. Ukraine is also bleeding plenty there, however. They've been doing this for over a month at this point. All the images and videos look like a WW1 hellacape.
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CommieGIR posted:Yup, but at this case they are almost an ad-hoc member state, so Hungary's threat of veto will have little impact in the end. I've heard that Ukraine is more or less officially planning to follow Israel's path of not being in NATO and maintaining self-reliance, but also being Special Friends with the US and buying or being given vast amounts of American arms and maintaining a close diplomatic and trade relationship with the US and EU. There is the concern of Ukraine also following Israel's path down the road towards ultranationalism and demagoguery, but those are problems for twenty years from now. I could easily see Ukraine becoming a center of technological development much as Israel is currently too - they already have plenty of native technical and industrial expertise, the problem will be keeping it alive through the war. Rebuilding the infrastructure is going to be key to that effort, but something tells me they won't lack for Western investment.
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I’ve heard Bakhmut referred to as the 21st century’s Passchendaele.
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Screenshot from South Park. It's a whale and dolphin.
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Blistex posted:Screenshot from South Park. It's a whale and dolphin. gently caress uh-yuuuu dolfiinnn and uhh-whalleeee the best South Park episodes pick one dumb but funny premise and stick with it
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A.o.D. posted:Even the best case scenario would put the Ukrainians a decade or more out from a NATO application if the alliance does basic due diligence. Define "Due Diligence" for a thing that is 1) Entirely political and 2) About Violence. Its not a regulated financial transaction. The USA can wave its magic wand and say Ukraine will be treated as a member of NATO and viola, Ukraine is 80% of the way to being in NATO with 90% of the benefits. International relations is not even spherical cow physics, its Calvinball at heart.
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GD_American posted:
Gonna need a new Kanye episode.
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CommieGIR posted:Yup, but at this case they are almost an ad-hoc member state, I don't think Ukraine feels that way....
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Alan Smithee posted:Jesus did they outsource those to Taurus We’ve been told from the range people that SIG has apparently outsource some parts to be made In china and has caused a substantial failure rate and switching over from SIGs to glocks, take it as you will.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:it's certainly lovely but it is orders of magnitude away from the scale of the big ww1 battles It's a comment on the futility and wastefulness of the assaults, not their scale. Ukraine has launched multiple attacks on airfields in occupied Southern Ukraine over the past few days, indicating that a push to liberate occupied parts of Zaporizhzya Oblast is forthcoming. https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1601638864556523521
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