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Mad Hamish posted:The remake of Suspiria is fantastic. If I had to provide a platonic ideal for how not to remake a movie, it would be Suspiria. It's grossly self-indulgent and horrendously bloated. I gave up a little over halfway through, by which point I'd already been watching it for longer than the original movie.
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That Italian Guy posted:Comedy is the first to age and it usually ages poorly, satire/parody most of all. A lot of Mel Brooks' gags regarding gender and sexuality have really aged poorly for example. The Joker is literally just Taxi Driver + The King of Comedy. It says very little because there’s not much point in talking about the 70s these days.
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I liked the scene in the joker where the kids mom owns him for making faces at her kid. gently caress you idiot
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Jedit posted:If I had to provide a platonic ideal for how not to remake a movie, it would be Suspiria. It's grossly self-indulgent and horrendously bloated. I gave up a little over halfway through, by which point I'd already been watching it for longer than the original movie. It's a great movie as long as you don't go into it expecting it to be a remake of Suspiria. It had some amazing practical effects too. They hired a girl whose body could just do that for that one scene.
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rodbeard posted:It had some amazing practical effects too. They hired a girl whose body could just do that for that one scene. Also common in pornography
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I don't remember the movie Joker taking any kind of stance on cancel culture.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't remember the movie Joker taking any kind of stance on cancel culture. Edit: and it's not really about cancel culture, is literally "Nobody let's me make new Hangover movies because everyone is too PC nowadays".
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That Italian Guy posted:The author has been very vocal about it, if the giant rant during the liveshow wasn't clear enough. Yeah the movie isn't really about it but the whiny baby behind the camera was
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Some former producer on Days Gone made a rant about "wokeness" which the studio had to refute. Which is a shame because that game was actually good if you want to hear Sam Witwer ramble to himself for 60 hours.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Some former producer on Days Gone made a rant about "wokeness" which the studio had to refute. Which is a shame because that game was actually good if you want to hear Sam Witwer ramble to himself for 60 hours. His specific argument was that the game failed because 'society is too woke to play a game about a gruff straight white guy'. Which is just absurd. C'mon, man, making games about gruff straight white guys is how you win awards in the medium of video games, we're only now seeing the medium slowly wean itself off of Sad Dad Games (which, as an aside, I think will make it very easy to date a particular era of video games in the future, it's the 'cutesy animal mascot' of the last two console generations). Making a game like that and still failing says that you hosed up real bad somewhere along the line. Cleretic has a new favorite as of 13:53 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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Cleretic posted:His specific argument was that the game failed because 'society is too woke to play a game about a gruff straight white guy'. 
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Cleretic posted:we're only now seeing the medium slowly wean itself off of Sad Dad Games (which, as an aside, I think will make it very easy to date a particular era of video games in the future, it's the 'cutesy animal mascot' of the last two console generations).
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Dec 11, 2022 14:13
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Sad Dad Games where the main character has a big butt.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Sad Dad Games where the main character has a big butt. Metal Gear!?
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Icon Of Sin posted:I’m betting there’s a lot of early Adult Swim that’s going to age poorly (if it were even worth watching in the first place EARLY Family Guy? Buddy modern Family Guy ain’t aging well either.
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Vandar posted:EARLY Family Guy? I said “early” because I don’t know if I ever actually saw any episodes from after they rebooted it 
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I haven't seen anything that bad in aqua teen Frisky Dingo has some pretty early 2000s stuff though I have been wanting to re watch Gerhard Reinke's Wanderlust, will report back
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hawowanlawow posted:I haven't seen anything that bad in aqua teen Shake like me?
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Samovar posted:Shake like me? oh yeah
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Cleretic posted:His specific argument was that the game failed because 'society is too woke to play a game about a gruff straight white guy'. Lol, just how many of the biggest hit games in the past few years were Sad Dad Games? I can name several off the top of my head.
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Kchama posted:Lol, just how many of the biggest hit games in the past few years were Sad Dad Games? I can name several off the top of my head. Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, we're STILL in the Sad Dad Boom. But I think we're on the tail end; there was a phase were drat near every big critically-acclaimed game was some flavor of Sad Dad Game. By my gut, the Sad Dads will be well and truly out the moment another type of protagonist becomes popular enough to become 'the default' for developers just wanting to make a big game. There's room for something to take that spot, but no real contenders yet, and until then Sad Dad Games remain the media darlings. Cleretic has a new favorite as of 16:38 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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Also if the character was meant to be edgy or politically incorrect in any way, they did a terrible job of presenting it. There’s even a camp in the game that’s basically infowars and he goes on about how nutty they are.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Sad Dad Games where the main character has a big butt. Post Trauma, announced during the Game Awards a couple of days ago, stars a late middle aged Asian man with a dumptruck of an rear end.
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Kchama posted:Lol, just how many of the biggest hit games in the past few years were Sad Dad Games? I can name several off the top of my head. I don't actually think there are that many overall, just that there were a few that were extremely prominent and had similarities beyond the dad-ness so it felt like they were common.
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Cleretic posted:Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, we're STILL in the Sad Dad Boom. But I think we're on the tail end; there was a phase were drat near every big critically-acclaimed game was some flavor of Sad Dad Game. Oh, sorry I didn't mean to say I was disputing you there. I was just disputing the idea that nobody likes games about sad older men who probably bone a lot, considering that one was on the slate for Best Game this very year.
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Cleretic posted:His specific argument was that the game failed because 'society is too woke to play a game about a gruff straight white guy'. Wasn't he basing it on Ghosts of Tsushima being heralded as a success while Day's Gone didn't get the sequel he wanted despite them 'moving a similar number of units'. Which they did, but Day's Gone came out a year earlier was given away for free multiple times and was perpetually in the $10 sale bin.
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Yeah, the game's actual narrative and tone don't reflect the director's views at all in a kinda fascinating way. Nah, Days Gone instead deconstructs that machismo he mentions over, and over, and over. It is a story of a guy who smokes weed and wears a cut so calls himself a 1%er, got married in his hometown and then his wife died, except it takes place in the apocalypse and so she's likely out there. But he can't bring himself to search for her because leaving precious memories behind hurts too much. They don't hide any of this, the story has its heart tattooed on its skin. Deacon and Sarah are deeply in love, you watch their cute lonely biker wedding, flash forward to Deacon in the present and he's crying over the memories. And whenever they show you Sarah's half indeed there is no weird PUA stuff, their relationship is totally genuine. It utterly defies the director's intent and imo oozes passion. Edit: just for reference the director has been acting that way since around the time the game came out. Might have a case of blaming everyone but himself for its middling reception. I think he got pretty into nft's when they were a fad so that's the type of guy he is. CJacobs has a new favorite as of 18:27 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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It doesn't help that the first act (15 hours) is the weakest. There's little plot, your weapons suck, and most of the characters you meet are irrelevant. It takes ages for the hero to bother getting medical attention for his bro's blowtorched arm, which gets inevitably gets amputated because everyone's an idiot.
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Yeah it for sure takes a while to show you that passion, but at least it's a snowball effect. Edit: And Sam Witwer and Courtnee Draper's performances... 
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CJacobs posted:Yeah, the game's actual narrative and tone don't reflect the director's views at all in a kinda fascinating way. I think he has a case of blaming everyone but himself for the game's muddling reception. Nah, Days Gone instead deconstructs that machismo he mentions over, and over, and over. It is a story of a guy who smokes weed and wears a cut so calls himself a 1%er, got married in his hometown and then his wife died, except it takes place in the apocalypse and so she's likely out there. But he can't bring himself to search for her because leaving precious memories behind hurts too much. They don't hide any of this, the story has its heart tattooed on its skin. Deacon and Sarah are deeply in love, you watch their cute lonely biker wedding, flash forward to Deacon in the present and he's crying over the memories. And whenever they show you Sarah's half indeed there is no weird PUA stuff, their relationship is totally genuine. It utterly defies the director's intent and imo oozes passion. IIRC the protagonist is also ironically quite “woke” himself for a biker and says that racism is bad a couple of times. Really should have gone with a “go woke, go broke” framing for the game’s failure if he wanted to be consistent
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It is almost a reversal of the situation with the DmC Devil May Cry director. Yknow, the guy who said Dante looks like a gay cowboy. That game really did reflect the guy's backwards, edgy, misanthropic views!
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A Sometimes Food posted:Post Trauma Pro tier username
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Samovar posted:Shake like me? add the one with Hand Banana to the pile imo. it isn't often Aqua Teen whiffs it ime, but when it does, hoo boy
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SatansOnion posted:add the one with Hand Banana to the pile imo. it isn't often Aqua Teen whiffs it ime, but when it does, hoo boy They did a sequel to it last year and uhhhh. I guess credit for being able to go back and be the same show they were 15 years ago. RFC2324 posted:Pro tier username Thanks mate. Edit: lmao I got what you meant the second I posted. Leaving the post unedited to not hide my dumbassery.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I don't actually think there are that many overall, just that there were a few that were extremely prominent and had similarities beyond the dad-ness so it felt like they were common. Yeah, the thing with Sad Dad Games isn't that they actually flooded the market, but more that they flooded the discourse; every Sad Dad Game was big enough and important enough to suck all the air out of the room, to the point where it didn't feel like other games could exist. It's similar to the current glut of superhero movies: no, they aren't the only things getting made, but it sure feels like it sometimes. Except that in this case, the superhero movies were also sweeping awards seasons.
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RDR2 is a stealth sad dad game as you find out pretty far into the game that Arthur used to have a kid but the kid died.
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bobjr posted:Also if the character was meant to be edgy or politically incorrect in any way, they did a terrible job of presenting it. But then it turns out that guy is right with later revelations in the story. CJacobs posted:Yeah, the game's actual narrative and tone don't reflect the director's views at all in a kinda fascinating way. Nah, Days Gone instead deconstructs that machismo he mentions over, and over, and over. It is a story of a guy who smokes weed and wears a cut so calls himself a 1%er, got married in his hometown and then his wife died, except it takes place in the apocalypse and so she's likely out there. But he can't bring himself to search for her because leaving precious memories behind hurts too much. They don't hide any of this, the story has its heart tattooed on its skin. Deacon and Sarah are deeply in love, you watch their cute lonely biker wedding, flash forward to Deacon in the present and he's crying over the memories. And whenever they show you Sarah's half indeed there is no weird PUA stuff, their relationship is totally genuine. It utterly defies the director's intent and imo oozes passion. He now runs one of those play-to-earn "web3" game studios so all this tracks.
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Apparently the dude's primary example of why the game was NSFW (not safe for wokes) was a scene where Deacon admires a lady's rear end. This scene sent such huge waves across the wokeosphere that I'd never heard about it until he brought it up. It didn't even sound like the context was creepy, it sounded like flirting between two consenting adults. So he's really telling on himself if he can't figure out where the line is. Big "you can't make a joke about ANYTHING these days" energy. CJacobs posted:I think he got pretty into nft's when they were a fad so that's the type of guy he is. Multiple articles about his weird little rant ended with the punchline that he jumped ship to some NFT games company. 
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CJacobs posted:It is almost a reversal of the situation with the DmC Devil May Cry director. Yknow, the guy who said Dante looks like a gay cowboy. That game really did reflect the guy's backwards, edgy, misanthropic views! DmC was very weird overall because Capcom literally shopped out to people like that, and even refused to actually let them make it more like the original games when they started to feel like being backwards, edgy, and misanthropic was a really bad fit for DMC. All because Inafune convinced Capcom that 'everybody hates Japanese games' (maybe he talked to Phil Fish?) and that they had to go EDGY and hire western devs to do all their games for them to survive.
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Kchama posted:All because Inafune convinced Capcom that 'everybody hates Japanese games' (maybe he talked to Phil Fish?) and that they had to go EDGY and hire western devs to do all their games for them to survive. They weren't the only developer to make that mistake, although they were probably the loudest. I think the best response to it was from the director of Ninja Gaiden 3, after they did try to westernize it and failed. The quote was basically 'we tried to make a western-style hamburger, and none of you wanted that, so I promise that from now on we're gonna stick to making really good sushi'.
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