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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Kraft has the money he could dangle for Payton but yeah coming in, that defense will fall apart without Belichick so it would probably be a disaster. Gotta think Payton could assemble a pretty good staff. He’d just need a couple defensive drafts
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I have now accepted that Payton will go to Denver because no one can write a bigger check
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Kraft has the money he could dangle for Payton but yeah coming in, that defense will fall apart without Belichick so it would probably be a disaster. Payton wants to go somewhere with a good young QB and I don’t think Mac Jones qualifies. I doubt money is going to be the thing that sways him.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Payton wants to go somewhere with a good young QB and I don’t think Mac Jones qualifies. I doubt money is going to be the thing that sways him. Counter point: Bailey Zappe
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a neat cape posted:I have now accepted that Payton will go to Denver because no one can write a bigger check Hell world option: Snyder sells the Washington team to Bezos and he pays Payton like $500 million to come make a splash for his new toy
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Darth Brooks posted:Minnesota could really use a different DC. Ed Donatello is not it. Does anyone know how common it is for a coordinator to be fired after their first season with a new head coach? Because yeah the scheme is awful, even when they're not missing starters.
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Cognac McCarthy posted:Does anyone know how common it is for a coordinator to be fired after their first season with a new head coach? Because yeah the scheme is awful, even when they're not missing starters. Staley fired the Chargers ST coordinator after year 1 last year
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At this point whoever decided Hackett should get this much leeway/room to hang himself with should be fired along with him edit: https://twitter.com/FTBeard7/status/1602067371547856897?s=20&t=csSkyCG7CIAwt0Idm73BMw Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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Chris James 2 posted:At this point whoever decided Hackett should get this much leeway/room to hang himself with should be fired along with him The new owners probably plan to clean house anyway and the season is already lost so what’s the rush?
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Hackett is orchestrating an epic comeback. They should retain him.
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a neat cape posted:Hackett is orchestrating an epic comeback. They should retain him. 10 year/200 mil lets go
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a neat cape posted:Hackett is orchestrating an epic comeback. They should retain him. Need at least 5 more years to let his master plan play out
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a neat cape posted:Hackett is orchestrating an epic comeback. They should retain him. adaz posted:10 year/200 mil lets go edit: https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1602065200190046213?t=2qPPFhEfbSThwrJegqNHUA&s=19 AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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wandler20 posted:Todd Bowles defense out here letting the last pick of the NFL draft look like Patrick Mahomes.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:You gotta admit that Purdy's pump fake then dime over the corner and away from the safety was a great throw. It was. Much better than anything Brady has done today.
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That Broncos game was actually highly entertaining after the first quarter when they had already spotted KC like a 21 point lead. It also coincided with Russ being concussed into another dimension  I think my favorite part was Wilson celebrating like he had won the Super Bowl after he checked down for about 1 yard to Mack and then he took it to the house thanks in no way to Russ.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Hackett should be fired at halftime. The Broncos are unwatchable Can he take Spagnuolo with him?
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a neat cape posted:I have now accepted that Payton will go to Denver because no one can write a bigger check That situation is a complete shitshow though.
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mcmagic posted:That situation is a complete shitshow though. I dunno, didn't Russ have a decent-to-good game yesterday before he got hurt, though? I can see Payton or another HC candidate looking at that and going, "Russ still got stuff left in the tank, and with that defense... I can work with that"
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I'm confident Payton will not go to Denver. He's "only" 58 and has to be thinking that if he steps into a good situation where he can shoot for an Andy Reid-esque second stint, he could make himself a Hall of Famer. If he was like 5 years older I'd buy Denver for the even dumber amounts of money option.
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Shinji2015 posted:I dunno, didn't Russ have a decent-to-good game yesterday before he got hurt, though? I can see Payton or another HC candidate looking at that and going, "Russ still got stuff left in the tank, and with that defense... I can work with that" He was pretty bad until the Chiefs got up 27-0. It obviously wasn't garbage time given the final score, but I wonder if the Chiefs D was kinda treating it that way, you know, just slow them down and we'll be fine. But he did make some real good throws along the way before getting hot-brained, so if you squint enough and know that Hackett is running a terrible offense and yours is better. Hey, maybe?
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Kalli posted:I'm confident Payton will not go to Denver. He's "only" 58 and has to be thinking that if he steps into a good situation where he can shoot for an Andy Reid-esque second stint, he could make himself a Hall of Famer. He’s not already a HoFer?
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Ornery and Hornery posted:He’s not already a HoFer? He's reasonably fringe currently. If we look at his contemporaries in the coached over a decade during the free agency era who've won 1 SB we get: Andy Reid Mike Holmgren Pete Carroll Mike Tomlin Mike McCarthy Sean Payton Bill Cowher John Harbaugh Tony Dungy Jon Gruden Of that list, the only haha, no entry is Gruden*. The other guys worth mentioning here are Belichick, and moving on, Coughlin and Mike Shanahan who each have two in 20 years of coaching and aren't in yet. There's 26 Head coaches in the HoF currently, so we can say there's roughly 4-5 per primary decade in the hall. So we gotta consider the 2000's and 2010's. Cowher and Dungy eat up two of those '00 slots, let's say Belichick eats one from each out of largesse, and Andy Reid is getting in, so that's 5 probably eaten. After that, I think it's pretty certain Coughlin will get in, and Pete Carroll has the best resume of the remaining guys, so yeah, there's probably 3 spots for the remainder of that list, and Payton's best bet is to come back in a good scenario, and if he puts together any kind of contender, that'll likely do it *McCarthy would also be a haha no, but there's a gross Cowboys multiplier
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Coughlin getting in is ridiculous.
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Some random stats for funsies Playoff wins: 31 Belichick 19 Reid 13 Holmgren 12 Coughlin, Cowher 11 Carroll, Harbaugh 10 McCarthy 9 Payton, Dungy 8 Shanahan, Tomlin 5 Gruden W-L% 66.8% Dungy 66.5% Belichick 63.7% Reid 63.1% Payton 63.0% Tomlin 62.3% Cowher 61.6% McCarthy 61.3% Harbaugh 59.2% Holmgren 59.1% Carroll 55.2% Shanahan 53.1% Coughlin 51.1% Gruden Wins: 296 Belichick 243 Reid 170 Shanahan, Coughlin 161 Holmgren 159 Tomlin, Carroll 153 McCarthy 152 Payton 149 Cowher 146 Harbaugh 139 Dungy 117 Gruden Years in Playoffs 19 Belicihck 17 Reid 12 Holmgren 11 Dungy, Carroll 10 Tomlin, Cowher, McCarthy 9 Payton, Harbaugh, Coughlin 8 Shanahan 5 Gruden Putting Gruden on these lists is more fun for me then adding Belichick
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Yeah, Coughlin’s success as a coach in Jacksonville gets overlooked a bit now, but they made the playoffs 4 straight years, including two trips to the AFC Championship game, a 14-2 season, and utterly annihilating Dan Marino/Jimmy Johnson in their final game. He’s got a decent case. Mike Tomlin might as well if he hangs around for a while and depending on how the Steelers go the next few years.mcmagic posted:Bowles going to be one and done in tampa? He should be. That’ll be interesting to watch, as I think it will depend on how much sway Bruce Arians still has within the organization and the Brady situation.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:He took an expansion team to the AFCCG in the team's second year of existence and also coached the Giants to slay the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl and then beat the Patriots again to get a second Super Bowl. I'm not saying I like him or anything, but thats the case for it. The problem is outside these two four-year stretches in Jacksonville and with the Giants, Coughlin's teams were inconsistent and mediocre. He's missed the playoffs more times than he actually made it in. I think he gets in solely for beating Brady's Patriots twice.
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SKULL.GIF posted:The problem is outside these two four-year stretches in Jacksonville and with the Giants, Coughlin's teams were inconsistent and mediocre. He's missed the playoffs more times than he actually made it in. I know it's not going to be counted against him, but in NY for most of his years he was a neg negative.
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Kalli posted:Some random stats for funsies For fun I looked up Marty: 61.3% winning percentage right there with Harbaugh in the middle of the pack for this list. 200 wins putting most of them to shame. 13 years in the playoffs, same. .... 5 playoff wins, slumming it down there with Gruden without even getting a chance to coach for a ring.
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I feel like Coughlim shouldn't get in, and he probably made his teams worse by being an absolute Dick. I swear the first Super Bowl season with the Giants coincided with him give the players more leeway with his stupid rules. Like the team vets were basically in open revolt about it at the end of the previous season.
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