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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."
I can't say I'm a fan of Grimes or ever will be one, but she's got my respect for causing the world's richest man to go off the deep end.

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sticksy
May 26, 2004
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waffle iron posted:

Twitter unbanned two radical revolutionary leftists: the Krasensteins.

When will the cruelty end

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

kazil posted:

lol and lmao that elon is being radicalized

also elon is anti-fauci because lockdowns means he cant force his workers to be at the office/assembly line all the time

As evidenced by him praising the work ethic of his Shanghai workers when they were literally locked in the factory by the government during the lockdown

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





Divorced, money poisoned AND internet poisoned. A powerful cocktail, and rare. Can't remember the last billionaire who spent a whole month posting through it.

You could almost argue hard drugs would be a healthy improvement to his life, if it takes enough time away from his other vices.

gently caress man I dunno. I think bill shakespeare woulda made a banger play out of this guys life. The ironic tragedy of having it all, but instead wanting (and failing) to be a poster, of all loving things.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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priznat posted:

These goobers are just showing it is basically an impossible problem to run a social network. On the one hand you have laws, social norms and advertiser expectations and on the other you have a bunch of rabid morons who convince themselves that any limitation of the poo poo they or their friends want to spew, regardless of how dangerous is somehow the equivalent to being oppressed by the Nazis.

I would look at that and go "gently caress no" and work on a Web app that lets your dog find play dates at the park instead.

The funny thing is, twitter did a pretty good job with this before elon dismantled the whole company! They had a big moderation & safety team, and they weren't as enthralled with algorithm attention-boosting as facebook & google.

They also did much less targeted data advertising than facebook & google. That's likely why they were so bad at generating a profit -- they made less money on ads because they didn't do the most lucrative ads with high conversion. They actually blocked advertisers out of the most granular type of targeting that allows ads to basically hit individuals.


(Amusingly, Elon probably could have made the company more profitable and done the short turn-around IPO thing by just changing their targeted advertising policy to be the same as facebook. The employees wouldn't have liked it, and I still kinda doubt he'd have made much profit. But lmao it's not like he decided to go full redpill because twitter was dead no matter what.)

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens
#ElonMuskIsaGiantTurd was trending and when I tried to take a screenshot it dissapeared, completely gone now.

Kale
May 14, 2010

kazil posted:

lol and lmao that elon is being radicalized

also elon is anti-fauci because lockdowns means he cant force his workers to be at the office/assembly line all the time

Typically these statements are followed up with some sort of evidence or argument as to these things, not just saying random poo poo and then nothing. Like next thing you know Elon is going to be telling us he's opening Al Capone's secret vault and everybody needs to be at their devices for the big moment.

TelevisedInsanity
Dec 19, 2008

"You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling."
I hope grimes gets full custody of the kid, zune-gizmondo-ngage.

we are at the "pronouns" joke so we're almost reaching embarrassing conservative bingo. All that's left is appearing on Alex Jones or OAN and the other hack jokes like "LGBT-LMNOP" and "The Left Want Participation Trophies and Eat Tide Pods"

Kale
May 14, 2010

I do like that most of the mainstream media is ignoring the trolling and only seems to be doing stories on Elon when he actually presents something worth examining and likely debunking though. Like they're handling this overall better than I thought they would minus the New York Times of course. Indeed just posting random crazy poo poo and insisting that it's about to go down and then nothing for most of a day is not newsworthy.

Mr. Torrance
Sep 16, 2006
Have you ever thought about MY RESPONSIBILITIES?

Klyith posted:

The funny thing is, twitter did a pretty good job with this before elon dismantled the whole company! They had a big moderation & safety team, and they weren't as enthralled with algorithm attention-boosting as facebook & google.

They also did much less targeted data advertising than facebook & google. That's likely why they were so bad at generating a profit -- they made less money on ads because they didn't do the most lucrative ads with high conversion. They actually blocked advertisers out of the most granular type of targeting that allows ads to basically hit individuals.


(Amusingly, Elon probably could have made the company more profitable and done the short turn-around IPO thing by just changing their targeted advertising policy to be the same as facebook. The employees wouldn't have liked it, and I still kinda doubt he'd have made much profit. But lmao it's not like he decided to go full redpill because twitter was dead no matter what.)

Apparently 90% of Twitter's revenue was coming from ads so someone with half a brain would try to work on getting more revenue from them but instead of trying to improve Twitter by making it more appealing to advertisers he's basically in the process of ripping copper pipes out of the walls and selling them reimburse billions.

Mr. Torrance fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Dec 11, 2022

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens
https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1601935684415225860
I mean at this point just make it LiveJournal, why even stop at 4000 characters. I knew he wanted to raise the character count but I figured it would be 420 characters because lol so zany amirite? Was literally anybody even asking for this?

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

lol no way that cant be real

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens

kazil posted:

lol no way that cant be real

I hope not, haven't seen it confirmed elsewhere yet and I have no idea how reliable PopCrave is but he has been saying he wants to raise it since the start

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1601935684415225860
I mean at this point just make it LiveJournal, why even stop at 4000 characters. I knew he wanted to raise the character count but I figured it would be 420 characters because lol so zany amirite? Was literally anybody even asking for this?

lmao no way

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

Solving the "problem" of long twitter threads by turning the entire concept of microblogging on its head, good job Elong :thumbsup:

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1601935684415225860
I mean at this point just make it LiveJournal, why even stop at 4000 characters. I knew he wanted to raise the character count but I figured it would be 420 characters because lol so zany amirite? Was literally anybody even asking for this?
There are people who think Twitter being awful for 1/313 tweet threads is a problem with Twitter and not the OP.

e. This probably has a lot to do with the Twitter Files being absolutely garbage in the format in spite of Elon making sure Twitter retained first publishing rights.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Armitage posted:

I can't say I'm a fan of Grimes or ever will be one, but she's got my respect for causing the world's richest man to go off the deep end.

She is just as lovely in her own ways. From money, a complete narcissist with no regard for others. Also the raft thing. Which was funny. http://www.startribune.com/local/west/49134952.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Just a reminder in case it's been lost to the mists of time that the original limit of 240 characters was because Twitter started as an SMS gateway that you could post to by sending text messages to it and the SMS character limit was 240

There is no inherent reason for there to be a limit at all anymore


But the fact that there WAS a limit was key to its taking shape as a structured form of creative expression, like ad breaks in a 30-minute TV show

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Take away the limit and it becomes infinitely harder to just casually stroll through a timeline. The brevity of Twitter is probably it's strongest innovation tbh.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
Noted creative expressions, TV ads

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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No I meant the 3-act structure coming about because of the 30 minutes being broken up by ads. You get dramatic pauses and cliffhangers and buildups of tension and poo poo

Similarly comic books where you turn a page and suddenly there's a 2-page spread establishing shot, page-turning is key to the structure of the pacing in sequential art. That sort of thing

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens

Data Graham posted:

Just a reminder in case it's been lost to the mists of time that the original limit of 240 characters was because Twitter started as an SMS gateway that you could post to by sending text messages to it and the SMS character limit was 240

There is no inherent reason for there to be a limit at all anymore


But the fact that there WAS a limit was key to its taking shape as a structured form of creative expression, like ad breaks in a 30-minute TV show

I think it was even less, like 180 characters (because the SMS had to add some extra stuff to tell Twitter what to do with it or something? I'm not technical). Also Elon fired the guy who came up with expanding it to 280 characters. And yeah the brevity is what made it funny to me, people working an amazing joke into 280 characters is great. It forced people to really craft their words and gave us incredible writing like "I will face God and walk backwards into hell"

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Data Graham posted:

Just a reminder in case it's been lost to the mists of time that the original limit of 240 characters was because Twitter started as an SMS gateway that you could post to by sending text messages to it and the SMS character limit was 240

it was originally 140 characters, dictated by the SMS character limit of 160 characters (leaving 20 for a header) but otherwise yeah

they later doubled it to 280 which was completely arbitrary

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
The three act structure is about as old as drama.

Gubbinal Girl
Apr 11, 2022


CatstropheWaitress posted:

Take away the limit and it becomes infinitely harder to just casually stroll through a timeline. The brevity of Twitter is probably it's strongest innovation tbh.

Yeah, that was the reason it was fun. Short messages that you could quickly scroll through. If I want a bunch of long rambling blog entries there are literally a dozen better sites

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens

Gubbinal Girl posted:

Yeah, that was the reason it was fun. Short messages that you could quickly scroll through. If I want a bunch of long rambling blog entries there are literally a dozen better sites

But how else is Babylon Bee going to explain why their joke was funny?

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I think there was a time when Musk did DMT for a month straight and began to espouse socialist viewpoints. I think it was Burning Man. Or maybe he went on a Safari. Kind of like when Grimes tried to be Tom Sawyer for a month and in the end just killed a bunch of chickens. I can see why the New York Times is confused. It is kind of complicated when you think about it.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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goatface posted:

The three act structure is about as old as drama.

OK fine, whether there are ads in between acts in your Aristophanes play or not is irrelevant to my point which is that there IS a structure, and dividing it up into acts — dictated by whether you have ads to show people or not — is what gives the work its internal structure and the writers who use that format learn to use the structure to their dramatic advantage.

I didn't think this would need this much explaining, geez. I am very bad at exploiting the inherent structure of the posting medium

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
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Fauci could talk about how in flu season to wash your hands and not openly cough on people and Conservatives would call for his head.

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

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Data Graham posted:

Just a reminder in case it's been lost to the mists of time that the original limit of 240 characters was because Twitter started as an SMS gateway that you could post to by sending text messages to it and the SMS character limit was 240

There is no inherent reason for there to be a limit at all anymore


But the fact that there WAS a limit was key to its taking shape as a structured form of creative expression, like ad breaks in a 30-minute TV show

It's the same reason everyone loved Vine and wants it back. There are countless places you can upload video clips but the 6 second limit and inability to edit in post really pushed a new type of short content.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

She is just as lovely in her own ways. From money, a complete narcissist with no regard for others. Also the raft thing. Which was funny. http://www.startribune.com/local/west/49134952.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue

What is "complete narcissist" about the boat story?

Sure, it's a well-off 20-something being a complete ding-dong, but so what? Lots of 20-somehtings are complete ding-dongs. She was trying to have a dumb adventure, not hurt other people.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I'm no expert, but from what I've gathered the other times it's come up, a lot of visas require getting a job within your field, not just any job, and H1-B specifically involve a fair amount of paperwork on the employer's side.

If it were simple, the 60 day deadline wouldn't be as punitive as it is. Probably doesn't help that you're competing for what few openings there are with everyone else who also wants to get the hell away from Elon.

IIRC with the H1B since it's employer specific it's not transferable to a new employer so while someone on an H1B can get a new job while in the US (either before or within the 60 days after leaving their current job) the new employer has to basically put through a brand new petition for an H1B as if they were applying from outside the US again for the first time which isn't a guarantee of being accepted and also there's limit on the number offered in the US each year.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1601935684415225860
I mean at this point just make it LiveJournal, why even stop at 4000 characters. I knew he wanted to raise the character count but I figured it would be 420 characters because lol so zany amirite? Was literally anybody even asking for this?

Gonna say this is very likely entirely an attempt to lure Trump back. You know he’s that desperate for the Trump appeal.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

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Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1601935684415225860
I mean at this point just make it LiveJournal, why even stop at 4000 characters. I knew he wanted to raise the character count but I figured it would be 420 characters because lol so zany amirite? Was literally anybody even asking for this?

So it's facebook lol

Lamech
Nov 20, 2001



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can't wait to build elaborate ascii art ====++++++##### frames and poo poo for all my posts

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




"Mr Elton John sir, please don't leave Twitter sir, can you please provide an example of the misinformation you think is being spread?"

one day later

"Fauci deserves to be in prison for the covid hoax"

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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It's quite funny to see that the only changes he's making are the ones he has an obviously pre-made control for. Someone made a setting in an admin panel somewhere that is like "MAX_CHARACTERS = 280" or whatever and he's like "oh cool I can just put in a different number here". It's not actually rolling out new software features, it's just twiddling existing knobs.

Actually making substantive changes to the software is going to be what he would have needed all those employees he fired for. And it's what's going to be what results in actual catastrophic breakage.

(Also it'll be even funnier if raising the limit to 4000 craters the attractiveness of Twitter as a platform because suddenly it becomes no more interesting or readable than Facebook or Livejournal, and everyone decamps to Reddit or something)

kdrudy
Sep 19, 2009

bobjr posted:

Fauci could talk about how in flu season to wash your hands and not openly cough on people and Conservatives would call for his head.

He could suggest it's a good idea to wash your hands after you poo poo and these buffoons would start proudly showing off their poo poo covered hands.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

someone data-mined the new UI and it appears that long tweets will show the first 280 characters by default and you'll have to click through to see under the fold

so they've invented tumblr

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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

kazil posted:

lol and lmao that elon is being radicalized

lol he's set deep in the feedback loop of receiving praise from one side and being yelled at by everyone else

to quote trump: "like a dog"

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