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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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V. Illych L. posted:even if russia could abandon the donbass, they probably cannot sell any part of russian society on abandoning crimea, which is an explicit ukrainian war goal which is also supported by ukraine's western backers. russia's stuck in this war until they can figure something out. Also there's no natural border between Donbas and Russia proper. They can't just scamper off to the other side of the world and be entirely unaffected.
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Dec 12, 2022 09:27
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Al-Saqr posted:Please explain to me how the material conditions imply russia could win given that the material conditions for Ukraine weapons wise is really good and they re-gained two thirds of everything they initially lost in this war. Also it looks like europe will be just fine this winter so there's no magic surrender europe is gonna do so now what. One side is depleting reserves far beyond replacement rate just to turn up, the other side is just doing business as usual. Which side is which is up to the dear reader to decide. Also yeah the EU has plenty of energy reserves for winter. Don't even worry about buying emergency winter coats folks, you're all good. Just trust The Message.
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Dec 12, 2022 09:29
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Al-Saqr posted:Please explain to me how the material conditions imply russia could win given that the material conditions for Ukraine weapons wise is really good and they re-gained two thirds of everything they initially lost in this war. Also it looks like europe will be just fine this winter so there's no magic surrender europe is gonna do so now what. Ukraine's falling into darkness, has completely stalled in front on settlements with no defensible geography in the north, has done nothing about the front facing Melitopol, is losing territory in what is supposed to be its Maginot line facing Donetsk, sending reserves and equipment to be meatgrindered by Wagner in Bakhmut, Russian plants are on 24/7 shifts, etc. It's literally right in front of you but you have already prefigured your conclusions and will dismiss all what I've said as fanfiction so you can continue your ostrich-in-the-sand posting.
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Dec 12, 2022 09:33
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Al-Saqr posted:Please explain to me how the material conditions imply russia could win given that the material conditions for Ukraine weapons wise is really good and they re-gained two thirds of everything they initially lost in this war. Also it looks like europe will be just fine this winter so there's no magic surrender europe is gonna do so now what. What does 'europe will be just fine' mean? Why? How? As far as I know energy prices are still very high. Were you expecting like complete societal collapse? That comes in 2024 if this poo poo is still going. Edit: Also Ukraine receiving weapons from nato is not a cheat code. Europe has already sent everything it can, and some things it couldn't. Even the US is having trouble. The reserves are empty. This conflict is a disguised war between NATO and Russia and neither side is in war economy mode and neither side is having an easy time of it. Regarde Aduck has issued a correction as of 10:00 on Dec 12, 2022 |
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Dec 12, 2022 09:54
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al-saqr when Ukraine is down to a gangrenous battalion the size of a broadway musical cast armed with flintlock and arquebuses: Russia CANNOT win
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Dec 12, 2022 10:01
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Yeah, it is a bit hard to square things are going well for the Ukrainians at the moment. They did retake territory but generally after the Russians withdrew in good order after they had overextended themselves. That doesn't seem to what is going on at the moment while the Russians are pressuring them from multiple sides and using their superiority in artillery and long-range strikes against them. In addition, the Ukrainians are voluntarily taking large losses by committing to offensives that aren't going anywhere. The Russians clearly have been regaining momentum.
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Dec 12, 2022 10:07
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if we begin from the position that no Russian leader worth their salt would have ever accepted NATO expansionism into Eastern Europe, and consequently that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not a Putin-specific act, then it also follows that the political considerations that drove Putin to limit his invasion in the way that he did would also have been underpinning the decisions of anyone else in the driver's seat (i.e., Russia is a neoliberal capitalist state, and is subject to the same contradictions when waging war) in that sense, things would have roughly turned out the same way under anyone else besides Putin, in much the same way that the US would have remained in Iraq well past 2004 even if John Kerry had won
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Dec 12, 2022 10:24
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Ytlaya posted:Throwing up in terror as I get ready to make my opening posts. I do that catholic thing where you touch yourself 3 times as my comrades are violently banned in just the first few minutes I lol’d very hard imagining this TY
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gradenko_2000 posted:if we begin from the position that no Russian leader worth their salt would have ever accepted NATO expansionism into Eastern Europe, and consequently that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not a Putin-specific act, then it also follows that the political considerations that drove Putin to limit his invasion in the way that he did would also have been underpinning the decisions of anyone else in the driver's seat (i.e., Russia is a neoliberal capitalist state, and is subject to the same contradictions when waging war) great men of history don't exist, leaders are leaders because they do what everyone wants. you could kill any great man and history would just reshape itself around someone similar
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Dec 12, 2022 11:46
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Rutibex posted:you could kill any great man and history would just reshape itself around someone similar we've run simulations, this is confirmed fact
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Dec 12, 2022 11:57
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CODChimera posted:there's also 2 more parts to this on the channel. will be interesting to see how much of this turns out to be true Macgregor also outlines how European states, including the UK, are vassals (his words) of the US with limited sovereignty and they speak in pretty frank terms about US empire. It's very C-SPAM.
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Dec 12, 2022 11:59
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Top Gun Reference posted:Macgregor also outlines how European states, including the UK, are vassals (his words) of the US with limited sovereignty and they speak in pretty frank terms about US empire. It's very C-SPAM. There is a little Macgregor in all of us. Or is that just the whiskey talking? Limited is right though. I'd go one step further and call the vassals "bitch states" with all the negative dog-like connotations that go with that. They are what they are. Still it sounds a lot better when its someone wearing a suit saying it.
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Dec 12, 2022 12:01
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Rutibex posted:great men of history don't exist, leaders are leaders because they do what everyone wants. you could kill any great man and history would just reshape itself around someone similar if you killed a leader from "outside" history, history would be materially different, and would take a different shape. material conditions causing everyone to want something may support a social niche, but doesn't guarantee that niche will be stable enough for long enough that someone able and willing to fill it will come along and do so.
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Dec 12, 2022 12:21
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wow sounds like a hinge point
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Dec 12, 2022 12:45
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Russia really hasn't reacted to any sort of Ukrainian strike or apparent escalation individually. Mobilization and bombing of infrastructure are a reaction to the general course of the war, not sabotage and terror attacks from Ukrainian side.
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Dec 12, 2022 13:30
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Putler.
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Dec 12, 2022 14:01
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Putler. take it to the putler megathread
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Dec 12, 2022 14:11
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Lostconfused posted:Russia really hasn't reacted to any sort of Ukrainian strike or apparent escalation individually. Mobilization and bombing of infrastructure are a reaction to the general course of the war, not sabotage and terror attacks from Ukrainian side. Idk, things really ramped up after the suicide bombing of the Kerch bridge. Whether it was just an excuse for a pre-planned action who knows.
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Dec 12, 2022 14:25
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Putler. Daddymir Put-in
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Dec 12, 2022 14:36
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i dont need one great man of history, just give me twenty good men and ill get the history done
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Dec 12, 2022 14:58
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Freezer posted:Idk, things really ramped up after the suicide bombing of the Kerch bridge. Whether it was just an excuse for a pre-planned action who knows. Did they ever establish whether the driver was actually in on it
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Dec 12, 2022 16:03
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OctaMurk posted:i dont need one great man of history, just give me twenty good men and ill get the history done Now I'm triggered. Jesus Christ I hate that loving show!! 
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Dec 12, 2022 16:04
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Futanari Damacy posted:Did they ever establish whether the driver was actually in on it No idea, haven't heard anything about it since it happened, so yeah maybe not suicide. Sucks for the driver either way.
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Dec 12, 2022 16:13
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Freezer posted:No idea, haven't heard anything about it since it happened, so yeah maybe not suicide. Sucks for the driver either way. People dedicated to the idea the Ukraine are the good guys who haven't done any questionably bad things are saying that the truck was driven by remote somehow so as to avoid the implication of a suicide bomber.
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Dec 12, 2022 16:58
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spacetoaster posted:People dedicated to the idea the Ukraine are the good guys who haven't done any questionably bad things are saying that the truck was driven by remote somehow so as to avoid the implication of a suicide bomber. which is a strange good guy move, because then they're just saying they murdered a civilian truck driver who thought he was delivering fertilizer. a suicide bomber would be a combatant death
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Dec 12, 2022 17:04
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Call it anything but state-
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Dec 12, 2022 17:08
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speng31b posted:which is a strange good guy move, because then they're just saying they murdered a civilian truck driver who thought he was delivering fertilizer. a suicide bomber would be a combatant death They murdered an Orc and Orcs aren't people. Please report to Obergruppenfuhrer Banderovich if you disagree.
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Dec 12, 2022 17:16
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Bandera is a pretty goofy looking guy considering he's the Head Vampire of Ukraine
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Dec 12, 2022 17:21
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Futanari Damacy posted:Bandera is a pretty goofy looking guy considering he's the Head Vampire of Ukraine loving Malkavians
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Dec 12, 2022 17:27
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Rutibex posted:great men of history don't exist, leaders are leaders because they do what everyone wants. you could kill any great man and history would just reshape itself around someone similar come on now, history isn't just "great men", but they are a big part of it.
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Dec 12, 2022 17:57
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Organ Fiend posted:loving Malkavians I'm absolutely crestfallen that I understood this reference.
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Dec 12, 2022 17:57
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I listened to the podcast, it paints a pretty grim picture for Ukraine but I don't know how much of that is going to come to pass. They claim that Russia has two large combat groups which are unengaged at the moment ready to kick off some major offensive when the ground is frozen enough to go forward.. one east of Kharkiv and one in Belarus south of Minsk. We've heard reports of a big concentration of Russian troops in and around Minsk for a couple months now, with speculation of a big push southwards to cut off the portion of Western Ukraine that borders Poland from the rest and sever the primary (only?) route for western aid to reach Ukraine's military. This is basically the first I've heard of a big concentration of units in the area of Kharkiv however, my impression was that this portion of the front was very lightly held by Russia and seems to have been treated as being of secondary importance. The two experts are talking on the podcast like this big multi-pronged offensive is imminent so I guess we will see soon enough. Sounds like they believe that Russia's appointment of that new general was basically the point where Russia flipped over from trying to fight the war on the cheap to "actually we'll just completely destroy the Ukrainian state and deal with whatever is left over on our terms". Whatever happens this is stuff that I haven't heard from basically anywhere else so it's going to take a while to digest and process.
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Dec 12, 2022 18:25
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Regarde Aduck posted:taliban ftw
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Dec 12, 2022 18:26
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Ronald Reagan told the taliban "win one for the gipper" and they didn't disappoint
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Dec 12, 2022 18:33
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I wouldn't go so far as to say they are "for the win" but they certainly did win
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Dec 12, 2022 18:33
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lol, true story, told poorly:Your Tax Dollars at Work posted:Good afternoon, gentlemen. I trust you all had a productive morning? I know I certainly did, though it wasn't without its challenges. Needless to say I actually had to do my job.
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Dec 12, 2022 18:37
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Frosted Flake posted:It began adding Latin tags to emphasize moral arguments, referred to Crecy and the Peninsula, Elgin and Wellington, quoted Acts and Galatians, but did not summarize the strain on the training system so much as espouse the need to instil Muscular Christianity in the face of pestilence. ChatGPT is angling for promotion
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Dec 12, 2022 18:41
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bedpan posted:ChatGPT is angling for promotion My old man picked up a promotion and a medal recently essentially for doing this, so you aren't wrong. He's giving out Christmas turkeys to his (18 year old, can't cook) Joes sick with covid, which got him toasted at the Army Institute. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 18:45 on Dec 12, 2022 |
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Dec 12, 2022 18:43
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FF what have you wrought? It's one thing to be killed by a chromed steel robot in the inevitable rise of the machines, but if one of them has a swagger stick and a little mustache I will be extremely pissed off. Re: Macgregor, he's the dude who reportedly said Russia has the right to take any bits of Ukraine it wants to, so I don't know how much trust can be placed in his analysis.
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Dec 12, 2022 19:08
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make a mlmp chjatbot
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