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Ran Rannerson posted:I think Nael’s entry in Encyclopedia Eorzea 1 suggested the social expectation for highborn Garlean women is for them to become medics instead of the more front-facing combat jobs, and the entry there explaining the ranks says that women cannot inherit the imperial throne. So there are some societal ideas about gender roles going on, even if it seems like there aren’t necessarily legal barriers that would prevent women from ending up in the military. there is a complicated two-step involved in wanting to make your empire a commentary on fascism, but also not wanting to be too fascist about it. though come to think of it, there's surprisingly good representation for men in the "only has this job because of a superior's direct intercession" slot. dear departed Gryn, it's called out that Regulus van Hydra has his job specifically because Emperor Varis likes him, Rhitayn and Nero have their positions courtesy of earning Gaius' favor... the only Garleans we've met who have their jobs thanks to something other than their immediate superiors' whims are Gaius, who went rogue to reforge the 14th in his image, Zenos, who got there through his parentage, and the Emperor himself, who got there by winning a civil war. turning our eyes over to Eorzea, we see General Raubahn, granted generalship and syndicate membership by virtue of the Sultana deciding she liked this particular gladiator, and Knight-Commander Aymeric de Finitelynotthepope'skid, who wishes to reassure both you and himself at all times that there's no way Daddy's name cleared any obstacles out of his way. there's a lot less pretense to meritocracy in FF14 than there is in other fantasy settings!
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in raubahn's defense, he won his way on to the syndicate completely on his own through his winnings on the bloodsands
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YggiDee posted:Just to clarify, is "Nael died and his sister took up his identity" present in the Japanese version of the game or is it exclusively an English retcon? I can't remember where exactly this came from, but I recall reading before that it wasn't the plan originally in the Japanese version of the game, it was just something the English script made up to justify the pronoun confusion, but the team overall liked the idea enough to adopt it universally afterwards.
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Ivypls posted:in raubahn's defense, he won his way on to the syndicate completely on his own through his winnings on the bloodsands Yeah; he was Nanamo's champion and later bodyguard/friend, and that probably helped some enemies back off (and others pay attention), but he earned his standing.
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It's more like he won enough money on the bloodsands to buy the arena and then used that money to get on the Syndicate. No way anyone who actually works for a living gets that rich, even Godbrand owns a casino.
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1) become a gladiator 2) bet on yourself 3) win It's very simple!
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Hellioning posted:It's more like he won enough money on the bloodsands to buy the arena and then used that money to get on the Syndicate. No way anyone who actually works for a living gets that rich, even Godbrand owns a casino. But, wasn't Godbert already rich when the opened the Gold Saucer? I thought he very explicitly became rich purely through supernatural Goldsmithery (and in the ARR Hildy questline, it's also explicitly pointed out that his seat on the Syndicate is still very new)
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DanielCross posted:But, wasn't Godbert already rich when the opened the Gold Saucer? I thought he very explicitly became rich purely through supernatural Goldsmithery (and in the ARR Hildy questline, it's also explicitly pointed out that his seat on the Syndicate is still very new) Doesn't he also run most of Ul'dah's entertainment industry in general, not just the Gold Saucer?
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DanielCross posted:But, wasn't Godbert already rich when the opened the Gold Saucer? I thought he very explicitly became rich purely through supernatural Goldsmithery (and in the ARR Hildy questline, it's also explicitly pointed out that his seat on the Syndicate is still very new) I mean, yes, you don't open casinos by not being rich. But there's 'rich' and then there's 'one of the 6 richest people in a city-state whose culture is primarily based on capitalism'.
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There is another casino in Ul'dah, called the Platinum Mirage, which is where the Pugilists' Guild is located. It is property of the Mirage Trust, a banking/moneylending organization headed by...the late Teledji Adeledji...
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DanielCross posted:But, wasn't Godbert already rich when the opened the Gold Saucer? I thought he very explicitly became rich purely through supernatural Goldsmithery (and in the ARR Hildy questline, it's also explicitly pointed out that his seat on the Syndicate is still very new) i choose to believe Godbert made a regular people fortune out of his mining concerns, goldsmithing concerns, and being unreasonably good at goldsmithing himself, but it was only once he went illegitimate (via the Saucer) that he became Syndicate rich. presumably thanks to some prior Syndicate member betting it all on the wrong chocobo one too many times.
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Godbert has been rich enough to have a seat for a looooong time. But he didn't buy his seat. Instead, he told them that he was taking a seat, and anyone who disagreed had to face Julyan in single combat.
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Godbert found a cube of gold and then
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NyoroEevee posted:There is another casino in Ul'dah, called the Platinum Mirage, which is where the Pugilists' Guild is located. It is property of the Mirage Trust, a banking/moneylending organization headed by...the late Teledji Adeledji... There's actually a d20 on their sign, so my headcanon is that's where the Syndicate has their weekly ttrpg sessions.
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SirPhoebos posted:There's actually a d20 on their sign, so my headcanon is that's where the Syndicate has their weekly ttrpg sessions. Well, it was. Now they're trying to find a new DM…
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Kheldarn posted:Well, it was. Now they're trying to find a new DM… Never split the party.
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NyoroEevee posted:There is another casino in Ul'dah, called the Platinum Mirage, which is where the Pugilists' Guild is located. It is property of the Mirage Trust, a banking/moneylending organization headed by...the late Teledji Adeledji... Meaning it’s now majority State/Sultana-owned. Since the throne seized all of Teledji’s assets.
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Bruceski posted:Never split the party. 
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The Platinum Mirage is most likely cut content from the 1.0 days, as people were expecting to do something there since beta. There's exactly one interior for it in an ARR sidequest, but most player houses are better decorated. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Dec 13, 2022 |
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a lovely hole in the wall casino where you lose all your money due to house cheating is exactly up Teledji's alley
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hazardousmouse posted:a It was my understanding that that is the explicit purpose of all casinos, regardless of lovely-hole-in-the-wallery.
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Chronometry posted:It was my understanding that that is the explicit purpose of all casinos, regardless of lovely-hole-in-the-wallery. Nah, the casinos can win entirely fairly as long as they prevent YOU from cheating, just due to how the games are mathematically guaranteed to make the player lose. (that's why roulette has zeros).
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Yeah, you don't need much of a margin to win in the long run. Of course for slots and some other games the margins are so massive that "in the long run" isn't a factor.
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Regallion posted:Nah, the casinos can win entirely fairly as long as they prevent YOU from cheating, just due to how the games are mathematically guaranteed to make the player lose. Good casinos love a Big Winner. Statistically, the amount of money the BW takes away is a drop in the bucket for them, and it's great publicity that attracts a few hundred more
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kaosdrachen posted:Good casinos love a Big Winner. This is the function the Warrior of Light serves for the Gold Saucer
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Except the games are all rigged to pay out for the WoL.
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Regallion posted:Nah, the casinos can win entirely fairly as long as they prevent YOU from cheating, just due to how the games are mathematically guaranteed to make the player lose. Yeah, casinos are notorious for being extremely scrupulous. The game already favors the house, so cheating provides marginal gains (remember, you can't ALWAYS cheat or people will stop playing if they never win) and risks your gaming license, aka a license to basically print money.
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It's basically a matter of whether you count a game set up for the house to get a statistical 51+% advantage "cheating" or not
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To give due to the devil its not like casinos pretend that the odds aren't stacked in their favor.
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Chronometry posted:It was my understanding that that is the explicit purpose of all casinos, regardless of lovely-hole-in-the-wallery. this might have been true back in the mob days, but casinos are too corporate now and cheating isnt worth it
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yeah all of that and Teledji is exactly the gil blinded idiot to get mad seeing someone get lucky and cash out and vowing to make sure no one else does by cheating
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I suppose you could say Teledji is mad that he isn't getting his cut. He hates having to split the difference. He really wants to carve out his little capitalistic empire. ... I'll stop now.
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Rorahusky posted:I suppose you could say Teledji is mad that he isn't getting his cut. He hates having to split the difference. He really wants to carve out his little capitalistic empire. You don't believe in doing things by halves, do you?
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This topic reminds me: I love how Hancock makes a morbid quip about the Sekiseikumi Teledjii-ing people who break the law, and then immediately starts laughing his rear end off at his own joke. Teledjii jokes are the glue holding Ul'dah together. 
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Teledji is the most two sided individual in the game -- on one hand he is a greedy manipulative rear end in a top hat too big for his britches but on the other hand his britches had enough of his dickishness and decided to go their own way
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Teledji was always too clever by half.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:This topic reminds me: I love how Hancock makes a morbid quip about the Sekiseikumi Teledjii-ing people who break the law, and then immediately starts laughing his rear end off at his own joke. Alis sandbagging the joke really makes it work
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Kwyndig posted:Except the games are all rigged to pay out for the WoL. Big difference is you can't cash out in the Gold Saucer. You're basically playing for store credit. I wonder if they charge for drinks and make money that way.
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Kazy posted:Big difference is you can't cash out in the Gold Saucer. You're basically playing for store credit. Yeah, the best explanation people have had for how it works is basically a fancy Chuckie Cheese. The games are there to make you stick around and eat overpriced food and drink.
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It also has one of the world’s best mahjong simulators.
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