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Facebook was caught keeping the phone mic hot before. Zero surprises. I told everybody I knew using it to destroy the app with prejudice.
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Imagine giving that company money for device with a microphone and a camera that is specifically marketed for it's ability to follow you around a room. https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a23873639/facebook-portal-data-advertising/
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Facebook was caught keeping the phone mic hot before. Zero surprises. I told everybody I knew using it to destroy the app with prejudice. Were they actually caught? Every time I searched some type of "is Facebook listening" I got articles saying no, they just had Minority Report level prediction models that could sense that someone within a mile of you bought a new fence, so you're likely to have passed it on the way home and now you need to see an ad for Home Depot.
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Dec 13, 2022 00:57
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Sometimes it's more like: 1. You sit at the bar with someone and talk about Thing 2. That person that isn't you searches for Thing 3. Facebook knows your phone was next to their phone for a while, so you might both be interested in Thing 4. Facebook shows you ads for Thing It's definitely happened where my wife and I go next door, we both leave our phones at home, talk about Thing, and she sees ads for Thing on instagram. For me, that's the real head-scratcher. I can't think of how they would relate something to her when she has no electronic devices on her. It's not for something generic either, it'd be like a very specific lego set or something.
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Twitter dissolves Trust and Safety Council Meanwhile, a former top Twitter official fled his home amid attacks following Musk tweets quote:Twitter on Monday night abruptly dissolved its Trust and Safety Council, the latest sign that Elon Musk is unraveling years of work and institutions created to make the social network safer and more civil.
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Dec 13, 2022 02:54
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LifeLynx posted:Were they actually caught? Every time I searched some type of "is Facebook listening" I got articles saying no, they just had Minority Report level prediction models that could sense that someone within a mile of you bought a new fence, so you're likely to have passed it on the way home and now you need to see an ad for Home Depot. I'm having a hard time trying to find this now. I think a problem is that search results are sticking to 2019 as the floor, but I think this was going back to around 2015. The particular point that Facebook had admitted (from what I remembered) was that they admitted that they were listening for background music only. Best I could find was something off of Slashdot (oh boy): https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/05/25/1457246/facebook-could-be-eavesdropping-on-your-phone-calls. The link they have I don't think even points to where they were admitting it any more.
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Dec 13, 2022 05:07
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I'm having a hard time trying to find this now. I think a problem is that search results are sticking to 2019 as the floor, but I think this was going back to around 2015. The particular point that Facebook had admitted (from what I remembered) was that they admitted that they were listening for background music only. The linked News 10 story still says: quote:[Facebook], itself, admits in an online statement, “We use your microphone to identify the things you’re listening to or watching, based on the music and TV matches we’re able to identify.” But, experts contend that the site is going a step further. In what some users are calling an alarming trend, described as “Big Brother,” Facebook also listens for certain buzz words. Once identified, those words trigger an interesting response. Items are then carefully placed in your Facebook feed, specifically crafted with your interests front and center. Wait! What?
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This is probably a stupid question, but how does facebook get access to your microphone? Is the idea that they’re breaking the law by having the app use your mic without asking you?
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Dec 13, 2022 05:35
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I AM GRANDO posted:This is probably a stupid question, but how does facebook get access to your microphone? Is the idea that they’re breaking the law by having the app use your mic without asking you? I never used the Facebook app to talk to people but don't you have to give the app microphone control permission to be able to do that?
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Dec 13, 2022 05:38
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Yes, it’s supposed to ask so as not to break espionage laws. I’d imagine someone would have figured out if that was happening before now, unless the fbi did figure it out and exploited it to spy on people or something.
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Dec 13, 2022 05:44
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A lot of the things that look like it listening to you is actually it telling you what your friends were looking at recently. Because it's tracking who you spend time with
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Harold Fjord posted:A lot of the things that look like it listening to you is actually it telling you what your friends were looking at recently. Because it's tracking who you spend time with Yeah, ads I see change depending on who I'm working with so by inference I know who is looking at crypto and who got a kid on the way. It's easy to think it's listening in when you're talking about things and ads change to match but the things people talk about happens to also be the things they're looking at online.
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There's some very creepy poo poo with Facebook. In recommended friends, it once came up with my therapist's (minor) daughter, which is just absolutely creepy as gently caress for multiple reasons. I still have no idea how it could've pieced that poo poo together, but I know I don't like it.
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PT6A posted:There's some very creepy poo poo with Facebook. In recommended friends, it once came up with my therapist's (minor) daughter, which is just absolutely creepy as gently caress for multiple reasons. I still have no idea how it could've pieced that poo poo together, but I know I don't like it. He probably uploaded his email contacts when he registered, or let it have his phone contacts list. Then it sees this one person that he talks to all the time and connects her to you because sometimes you talk to him too.
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I AM GRANDO posted:He probably uploaded his email contacts when he registered, or let it have his phone contacts list. Then it sees this one person that he talks to all the time and connects her to you because sometimes you talk to him too.
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Dec 13, 2022 09:36
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Gentlemen, there is a solution to this you're missing. I have been using this solution since my son was born and it works perfectly. I have no friends on Facebook. Just groups devoted to board games I do not have time or anyone to play with 
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Dec 13, 2022 13:52
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Neo Rasa posted:I see myself doing that pretty soon, I'm just trying to get a couple of more people to realize they can speak to people in ways outside of Twitter and then I'm giving up on them and done lol Don't leave, make them ban you. Then appeal it. We are far past the point where account numbers or advertiser angst is going to have any effect, it'd not a publicly-traded company any more - there's no shareholders or board of directors to reign Elon in. Making them ban you makes just a little more work for the moderation team and costs Elon money. Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Dec 13, 2022 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Twitter dissolves Trust and Safety Council Honestly if the poo poo mudge claimed was even partially true then I don't know why they had a trust and safety team in the first place.
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oliveoil posted:Honestly if the poo poo mudge claimed was even partially true then I don't know why they had a trust and safety team in the first place. Before Musk, it was in their best interest to appear to the world as if they were trying to do the right thing
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Agents are GO! posted:Don't leave, make them ban you. Then appeal it. We are far past the point where account numbers or advertiser angst is going to have any effect, it'd not a publicly-traded company any more - there's no shareholders or board of directors to reign Elon in. the real thing to do is troll elon personally until he, personally, bans you instead of doing something useful with his time like finding $1.2 billion to pay his interest
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evilweasel posted:the real thing to do is troll elon personally until he, personally, bans you instead of doing something useful with his time like finding $1.2 billion to pay his interest It's not like he was going to do the latter anyway.
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Dec 13, 2022 20:05
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It was reported a few weeks ago that Musk was just straight-up telling his employees to stop paying providers like Amazon and Oracle in an attempt to get them to 'renegotiate terms'. Now he's doing it with the rent on Twitter HQ. https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1602784292433760256?s=20&t=fzlv80lhuEeTmWRNlDAk6g
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Dec 13, 2022 23:35
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So the building owners just lock everyone out. Can't work from the office when you can't get into the office. [Taps head] Seriously, though - how bad a person does Musk have to be to make you side with the landlords?
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Payndz posted:So the building owners just lock everyone out. Can't work from the office when you can't get into the office. [Taps head] Wouldn't they need to first forcibly evict all the people who are currently living at Twitter HQ 24/7 under Musk's orders, including possibly Musk himself before they lockout the building?
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nine-gear crow posted:Wouldn't they need to first forcibly evict all the people who are currently living at Twitter HQ 24/7 under Musk's orders, including possibly Musk himself before they lockout the building? There has to be a different set of standards for commercial property instead of residential property, right?
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It's not zoned as residential, not sure how that affects eviction protections. e: fb
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FlamingLiberal posted:It was reported a few weeks ago that Musk was just straight-up telling his employees to stop paying providers like Amazon and Oracle in an attempt to get them to 'renegotiate terms'. Now he's doing it with the rent on Twitter HQ.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's not zoned as residential, not sure how that affects eviction protections. It means they shouldn't have been living there in the first place, so it probably means there are no protections and it's not so much an "eviction" as a correction of trespassing
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nine-gear crow posted:Wouldn't they need to first forcibly evict all the people who are currently living at Twitter HQ 24/7 under Musk's orders, including possibly Musk himself before they lockout the building?
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nine-gear crow posted:Wouldn't they need to first forcibly evict all the people who are currently living at Twitter HQ 24/7 under Musk's orders, including possibly Musk himself before they lockout the building? Being honest, I did not expect Musk to take a page out of the Laura Loomer playbook, but somehow here we are.
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I want to see armed sheriffs drag him out of Twitter HQ the same way they would some poor old granma who misses her rental payments
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Musk is really pushing the limits of the whole "rich people are allowed to do crimes" thing, I wonder how far he'll go before someone in a position of authority bothers to try and stop his blatantly illegal activities.
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haveblue posted:It means they shouldn't have been living there in the first place, so it probably means there are no protections and it's not so much an "eviction" as a correction of trespassing IANAL, but I’m pretty sure protections do kick in if they’ve been living there long enough. Especially if the landlord knows about it, which they certainly do.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Musk is really pushing the limits of the whole "rich people are allowed to do crimes" thing, I wonder how far he'll go before someone in a position of authority bothers to try and stop his blatantly illegal activities. What I don't know is how much of Musk's assets are liquid. It seems like the vast majority of his wealth is tied to Tesla stock, which has been in a nosedive for like two months plus now. If he doesn't have a ton of liquid assets then it's harder for him to just keep paying lawyers to make his problems go away.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I don't know what you can really do about it. If he refuses to pay things, he'll probably end up in court. Then he'll either pay a settlement or just start endless litigation to bury his opponents in legal costs (which is what Trump loved to do all the time). If he refuses to pay his vendors, surely they can revoke Twitter's licenses, causes the entire website to go down as all the underlying services are cut off.
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Musk is banking that vendors and landlords won't do any of that because it would be far more costly for them to litigate Twitter than to accept the lost revenue and renegotiating deals/rent at a lower rate. He's trying to play bully on contractors smaller than Twitter. The buildings Twitter rents would probably be difficult to rent back out, they may sit vacant for a long time. Popete fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Dec 14, 2022 |
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Edmund Lava posted:IANAL, but I’m pretty sure protections do kick in if they’ve been living there long enough. Especially if the landlord knows about it, which they certainly do. If you’re talking about squatters’ rights, don’t those take years to kick in in most places?
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Cicero posted:Depending on the physical security implementation seems like they should be able to target specific badges? you can absolutely turn off or remove permissions from individual badges in every access control system ive heard of, but on the other hand ive never heard of the property management company having access to tenant access control systems. of course they could probably just padlock the front door.
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