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plus, of course, it's not economical to maintain the ability to black start a grid. if the grid collapsing was likely to cause so much of a problem, it would be in the rational self interest of all the power companies to not let it get into that state in the first place, by investing and planning up front
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redleader posted:plus, of course, it's not economical to maintain the ability to black start a grid. if the grid collapsing was likely to cause so much of a problem, it would be in the rational self interest of all the power companies to not let it get into that state in the first place, by investing and planning up front 
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redleader posted:plus, of course, it's not economical to maintain the ability to black start a grid. if the grid collapsing was likely to cause so much of a problem, it would be in the rational self interest of all the power companies to not let it get into that state in the first place, by investing and planning up front What if instead of that, we just cut off our grid from the rest of the region so we can price gouge consumers more efficiently?
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electrical pioneers should have pretended they were wizards and kept their secrets from us
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pretty colors https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1602079912869138432
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Real hurthling! posted:electrical pioneers should have pretended they were wizards and kept their secrets from us i think you underestimate how much of technology is pure magic to most people and how people who can create it are effectively wizards
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Cold and dry. Guess it will be neat to see how cold it can get with no snowcover. I'm dreaming of a brown Christmas
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How's the polar vortex looking this winter, is Texas gonna freeze again?
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Gripweed posted:How's the polar vortex looking this winter, is Texas gonna freeze again? If that article from September was to be believed then yes and I welcome it. last one I had the doors open and a nice draft blowing through. Was amazing.
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Gripweed posted:How's the polar vortex looking this winter, is Texas gonna freeze again? The polar vortex exists, yes.
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a strange fowl posted:australia just casually didn't have a spring this year and summer is looking dicey Nah, spring just arrived is all. Right after the traditional monsoon season 20°S of where it normally stops. I'm sure we'll get a nice 10+ year summer end of 2023.
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Moot .1415926535 posted:is that degrees sloppy latitude is a messy bitch
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quote:The pattern over the next week suggests that this very cold air will be drawn into Canada. After that, it’s a matter of where this air mass goes. A preponderance of modeling brings it down into the Central United States. And then? Well the question is whether the air continues diving into the deep South, toward the Gulf of Mexico, or is shunted more eastward. At this point we are talking about weather 8 to 10 days from now, so uncertainty in this is high. However, there is clearly the potential for very cold air to move into Texas, whereby we could see lows in the teens over the Christmas holiday in Houston. Low temperatures might also be 40 degrees. This far out it is difficult to forecast with any real confidence. But it is going to get cold during the last week of this year. Perhaps even very cold to the point where we need to worry about pipes, pets, plants, and power. We should have more confidence in this forecast in a couple of days. 
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Gripweed posted:oh dear It'll be fine. More likely there won't be any ice or snow. Unless some moisture comes up from the Gulf, but I'm sure it will be okay
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NeonPunk posted:It'll be fine. More likely there won't be any ice or snow.
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Look, it’s not like they’ve had several years of bad cold snaps that should compel them to do something about their power issues
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Cool cool time to dig out all the disaster stuff I bought last time!
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it usually gets cold in Texas every year. it is annoying how suddenly everyone begins making GBS threads their pants when below freezing is on the menu. what happened in 2021 was like a week of extremely cold (doesn’t usually get near 0 across the state) weather across the entire state down into Mexico. yeah it’ll probably happen again but it’s like everyone melts down when it starts raining because of a hurricane that happened
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I hear you crimes. But also I was caught pretty flat footed last time and I really don’t want to be in that position again. Especially since Texas has learned nothing and done nothing so our infrastructure is almost certainly worse now.
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Lmao, what do you call cold? Because most of the winter here usually hover around 70 degrees. It's getting harder and harder to remember a time when it's at 40 for longer than a week
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NeonPunk posted:Lmao, what do you call cold? Because most of the winter here usually hover around 70 degrees. It's getting harder and harder to remember a time when it's at 40 for longer than a week i've lived between austin and san antonio for decades and temps will dip below 30 basically every year. average january low here is low 40s, cold fronts easily push it below freezing biceps crimes has issued a correction as of 14:46 on Dec 14, 2022 |
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biceps crimes posted:i've lived between austin and san antonio for decades and temps will dip below 30 basically every year. yeah but you understand that that is less common closer to the coast, right?
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Gripweed posted:yeah but you understand that that is less common closer to the coast, right? yeah but i don't think the transplants near me in central texas do, nor do the libs outside the state that rev up the red party bad takes every time they see that dallas is getting snow
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biceps crimes posted:i've lived between austin and san antonio for decades and temps will dip below 30 basically every year. Over the last ten years, the San Antonio airport averages 66 days with low temperatures in the 30s or colder. High temperatures in the 30s is a different story, happening on average just three days per year.
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biceps crimes posted:i've lived between austin and san antonio for decades and temps will dip below 30 basically every year. Average is 40? Bullshit. The average is 60
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NeonPunk posted:Average is 40? Bullshit. The average is 60 im saying in central texas, the january average low is low 40s. i dont know where in texas you are
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biceps crimes posted:yeah but i don't think the transplants near me in central texas do, nor do the libs outside the state that rev up the red party bad takes every time they see that dallas is getting snow But the story we're discussing is specifically about Houston getting sub-freezing temperatures. SirPablo posted:Over the last ten years, the San Antonio airport averages 66 days with low temperatures in the 30s or colder. High temperatures in the 30s is a different story, happening on average just three days per year. Also yeah, temperatures briefly dipping below freezing is one thing, even Houston regularly gets a frost or two every winter. But we're talking about something more severe.
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biceps crimes posted:im saying in central texas, the january average low is low 40s. i dont know where in texas you are Average low is in the 40s, but that's usually only during at nighttime. During the daytime, it usually hover around in the 60s - 70s. Nobody really care about how cold it is at nighttime, only during the day when people have to leave their house
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NeonPunk posted:Average low is in the 40s, but that's usually only during at nighttime. During the daytime, it usually hover around in the 60s - 70s. Nobody really care about how cold it is at nighttime, only during the day when people have to leave their house what are you talking about, people absolutely care about the lows. ice accumulates over night and people need to wrap their pipes and poo poo to prevent freezing. the overnight lows will sometimes shut down the cities and schools. warming centers get opened up for the homeless so they don't die overnight. i feel like im taking crazy pills reading this thread
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biceps crimes posted:what are you talking about, people absolutely care about the lows. ice accumulates over night and people need to wrap their pipes and poo poo to prevent freezing. the overnight lows will sometimes shut down the cities and schools. warming centers get opened up for the homeless so they don't die overnight. i feel like im taking crazy pills reading this thread You're the one acting like the fact that it does sometimes get a bit cold in parts of Texas means that it won't be a big deal if it suddenly gets much colder than normal in all of Texas.
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biceps crimes posted:what are you talking about, people absolutely care about the lows. ice accumulates over night and people need to wrap their pipes and poo poo to prevent freezing. the overnight lows will sometimes shut down the cities and schools. warming centers get opened up for the homeless so they don't die overnight. i feel like im taking crazy pills reading this thread Water doesn't freeze at 40 degrees lmao wtf are you talking about? That's why people don't care about it being just 40 degrees overnight because it all get warmed up during the day and the water will be able to hold the heat for a while though the night. The problem starts to arise when it's cold during the day which doesn't happen in Texas often at all
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Gripweed posted:You're the one acting like the fact that it does sometimes get a bit cold in parts of Texas means that it won't be a big deal if it suddenly gets much colder than normal in all of Texas. if that projection holds true, then yeah, teens in houston could be bad, but there's models that spit out that doom every year. im not arguing with that. im annoyed with just the general state of hysteria and smug dunking that happens every year now when forecasts show freezing weather in texas (a very normal event). if there's actual confidence in a teens low in houston, yeah that's bad, lock it in it's guaranteed now im sure NeonPunk posted:Water doesn't freeze at 40 degrees lmao wtf are you talking about? That's why people don't care about it being just 40 degrees overnight because it all get warmed up during the day and the water will be able to hold the heat for a while though the night.  thanks, im good
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