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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Ytlaya posted:

Sometimes I find myself doubting the other races, but then I remember that every race tribe still has people devoted to The Lord Our God.

lmfao holy poo poo that took a turn

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

i blew up nordstream

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

AnimeIsTrash posted:

i blew up nordstream

thank you.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Lostconfused posted:

It sounds a lot less spicy than that blurb.

I'll believe they're actually doing stuff when they start coming home in body bags.

If Russia was serious they'd hit any nato specialists they find. There's some weird poo poo going on in this conflict. Like when Boris and EU leaders kept just waltzing in to what was supposed to be an active war zone. So they must have been getting assurances. It's like everyone has some kind agreement except for Ukraine who is just having its population slowly ground up.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
we did it reddit
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1602730072607281154

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

lobster shirt posted:

kind of relevant here i guess, an italian eurofighter crashed earlier today, pilot may or may not be okay

https://twitter.com/cencio4/status/1602759680295854080

is the eurofighter any good? is it bad? unknown?

One of the major selling points was that it is inherently aerodynamically unstable and would instantly crash if flying it was down to the pilot alone, it can only fly thanks to continual computer controlled micro corrections. This evidently gives it superlative agility. Make of that what you will.

fatelvis
Mar 21, 2010

Slavvy posted:

One of the major selling points was that it is inherently aerodynamically unstable and would instantly crash if flying it was down to the pilot alone, it can only fly thanks to continual computer controlled micro corrections. This evidently gives it superlative agility. Make of that what you will.

Is that not pretty much every modern fighter aircraft?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Slavvy posted:

One of the major selling points was that it is inherently aerodynamically unstable and would instantly crash if flying it was down to the pilot alone, it can only fly thanks to continual computer controlled micro corrections. This evidently gives it superlative agility. Make of that what you will.

this is true for most modern fighters. it's still an insanely stupid idea

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

what about Nordstrom 2?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Yeah but fly-by-wire sounds cool. So who can say if that's good or bad.

speng31b
May 8, 2010


time to die

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

fatelvis posted:

Is that not pretty much every modern fighter aircraft?

It is. And most fighter crashes are still old fashioned things like humans loving up or engine failure or bonking into stuff taxiing.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
so desperate to end the world over this lovely country

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://i.imgur.com/hSCSAii.mp4

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Truga posted:

this is true for most modern fighters. it's still an insanely stupid idea

i mean, if you lose your computer while in actual combat then you're p much hosed either way so is it really?

also this stuff gave us the su-57 which is like some kinda ace combat bullshit plane except real, so its impossible to say if its good or bad

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Regarde Aduck posted:

If Russia was serious they'd hit any nato specialists they find. There's some weird poo poo going on in this conflict. Like when Boris and EU leaders kept just waltzing in to what was supposed to be an active war zone. So they must have been getting assurances. It's like everyone has some kind agreement except for Ukraine who is just having its population slowly ground up.

The Russians also haven't been hitting the Ukrainian political leadership either. Admittedly, it does get pretty unstable if you start killing leaders and bombing core administrative buildings.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009


dave chappelle as ahchoo lol

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
I always remember men in tights as a fun movie

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



the patriots will have 100% success rate at shooting down the cheap iranian drones but somehow ukraine continues to have wide power outages daily

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

The Dnieper doesn’t freeze over hard enough to reliably support armoured vehicles until mid-January. If they wanted to go all the way, which I can’t say, they would have to time the time between the river being frozen and Mud Season.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

Cao Ni Ma posted:

the patriots will have 100% success rate at shooting down the cheap iranian drones but somehow ukraine continues to have wide power outages daily

Who would win, a billion dollar super science weapon or a glider with a scooter motor bolted to it

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Frosted Flake posted:

The Dnieper doesn’t freeze over hard enough to reliably support armoured vehicles until mid-January. If they wanted to go all the way, which I can’t say, they would have to time the time between the river being frozen and Mud Season.

I honestly don't think the southern Dnieper would be frozen enough by mid-january. The Ukrainians may try to attack from the north to peel Russian forces but the Russians have pretty solidly entrenched themselves. Also, unlike Kherson, I don't think bridges will be a vulnerable element (the rivers in the area are pretty small). The Ukrainians would have to brute force their way forward and usually that hasn't worked well.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Everyone's an expert on Ukraine's rivers and seasonal climate all of a sudden

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

paul_soccer12 posted:

Everyone's an expert on Ukraine's rivers and seasonal climate all of a sudden

The joys of playing armchair general.:allears:

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

paul_soccer12 posted:

Everyone's an expert on Ukraine's rivers and seasonal climate all of a sudden

I see you just joined the thread, welcome!

Majorian posted:

The joys of playing armchair general.:allears:

Another new member!

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 00:45 on Dec 14, 2022

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Slavvy posted:

One of the major selling points was that it is inherently aerodynamically unstable and would instantly crash if flying it was down to the pilot alone, it can only fly thanks to continual computer controlled micro corrections. This evidently gives it superlative agility. Make of that what you will.

that is most modern fighter jets.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Slavvy posted:

One of the major selling points was that it is inherently aerodynamically unstable and would instantly crash if flying it was down to the pilot alone, it can only fly thanks to continual computer controlled micro corrections. This evidently gives it superlative agility. Make of that what you will.

This is most Boeing 777s

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The computer controlled corrections are the thing that makes the boeing not fly.

Angry BIerds
Nov 3, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Ahh!

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Lostconfused posted:

Yeah but fly-by-wire sounds cool. So who can say if that's good or bad.

Just want to point out that 'fly by wire' just means that there aren't steel cables running from the cockpit to controls.

Lostconfused posted:

The computer controlled corrections are the thing that makes the boeing not fly.

Funny you mention, the 737 is too old to be fly by wire. The MCAS actuates the steel cable that runs from the trim wheel in the cockpit all the way back to the trim tab on the elevator.

E: Most cars too

nomad2020 has issued a correction as of 01:34 on Dec 14, 2022

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

nomad2020 posted:

Just want to point out that 'fly by wire' just means that there aren't steel cables running from the cockpit to controls.

wait, I thought it meant wuxia films

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
crashing typhoon hidden pilot

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

So it's just power steering for planes? Did they decide that it need that they needed a marketing gimmick name like power steering? I was wrong because I don't know anything about planes, but also somewhat disappointed now.

They should at least come up with a cool name for the computer flying the plane then.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
Autopilot is a cool name in 1860

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Fbw is literally just using a sensor and an actuator to replace physical control linkages, your car has it for the throttle and maybe the brakes and steering depending on what you've got.

I was unaware that inherent instability had become the norm in fighter jets, is that just more MIC grift in the hopes of somehow dodging supersonic a2a missiles?

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Lostconfused posted:

So it's just power steering for planes?

More like how now cars are steer by wire so that they can have lane correction shoved in.

nomad2020 has issued a correction as of 01:38 on Dec 14, 2022

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 54 minutes!
The US Justice Department has charged five Russian nationals and two US nationals for allegedly conspiring to violate US sanctions by smuggling US-made equipment to the Russian military, according to a recently unsealed indictment.

According to the 16-count indictment, the defendants were associated with two Moscow companies that worked with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) to purchase and smuggle sanctioned items – including semiconductors and other electronic equipment – from the US to the Russian military.

The seven individuals, Yevgeniy Grinin, Aleksey Ippolitov, Boris Livshits, Svetlana Skvortsova, Vadim Konoshchenok, Alexey Brayman and Vadim Yermolenko, “unlawfully sourced, purchased and shipped millions of dollars in military and sensitive dual-use technologies from US manufacturers and vendors located in the Eastern District of New York and elsewhere for Russian end users,” the indictment said.

“As alleged, the defendants perpetrated a sophisticated procurement network that illegally obtained sensitive U.S. technology to facilitate the Russian war machine,” Breon Peace, US attorney for the Eastern District of New York, said in a statement Tuesday. “Our Office will not rest in its vigorous pursuit of persons who unlawfully procure U.S. technology to be used in furtherance of Russia’s brutal war on democracy.”

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According to the indictment, Russian nationals Grinin and Skvortsova would receive requests from Ippolitov, also a Russian national, for sanctioned items from the US.

Grinin and Skvortsova would allegedly map out shipping routes while Livshits – through shell companies and US bank accounts – would allegedly purchase the items from US companies, according to the indictment.

Grinin, Skvortsova, Ippolitov and Livshits remain at large, according to the Justice Department, while Brayman, a permanent resident in the US, Yermolenko, a US citizen, and Konoshchenok, a Russian national, are in custody.

Based in the US, Brayman and Yermolenko would allegedly “fabricate shipping documents and invoices” to ship items around the world before they would eventually be sent to Russia, according to the DOJ.

Konoshchenok, who the Justice Department believes is an officer for the FSB, was allegedly one of their smugglers.

The alleged FSB officer was arrested in Estonia last week after allegedly attempting to smuggle twenty cases of US-made sniper rifle ammunition into Russia in late November.

According to the indictment, Konoshchenok was also stopped by police at the Estonian border with thousands of additional US-made bullets as well as “semiconductors and other electronic components,” some of which were controlled by the US government “for reasons of anti-terrorism.”

When Estonian law enforcement searched a warehouse allegedly used by Konoshchenok they discovered 375 pounds of US-made ammunition, according to the Justice Department. Proceedings to extradite Konoshchenok to the US will begin soon, US officials said.

The two US nationals, Brayman and Yermolenko, are scheduled to be arraigned in federal court Tuesday.

“At this stage Mr. Brayman has only been charged, he has not been convicted of anything,” Brayman’s attorney, David Lazarus, told CNN. “Like all defendants, Mr. Brayman is entitled to the presumption of innocence.”

No attorney for Yermolenko was listed on the public docket.

The defendants face a 30-year maximum sentence if convicted, according to the Justice Department.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Lostconfused posted:

So it's just power steering for planes? Did they decide that it need that they needed a marketing gimmick name like power steering? I was wrong because I don't know anything about planes, but also somewhat disappointed now.

They should at least come up with a cool name for the computer flying the plane then.

Most power steering is hydraulic, which is another way of actuating plane controls.

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

Slavvy posted:

Fbw is literally just using a sensor and an actuator to replace physical control linkages, your car has it for the throttle and maybe the brakes and steering depending on what you've got.

I was unaware that inherent instability had become the norm in fighter jets, is that just more MIC grift in the hopes of somehow dodging supersonic a2a missiles?

I think it's more about maneuverability than any hope of dodging A2A missiles. What that maneuverability actaully gives you now in the age of BVR missiles is questionable as I don't think dogfights happen all that often. Maybe sharper piloting for A2G operation close to the ground.

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
https://twitter.com/apmassaro3/status/1602831000123445249

lol lmao

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