withoutclass posted:

Does chained hit need to be on the same enemy?

Phlegmish posted:

Time for me to try out a new class. Which weapons would you guys recommend for a low-level Zealot?

Mendrian posted:

Depends on what you mean by low level.

The first 10 levels are basically going to be a bit of a slog, I found most Zealot weapons to feel a little weak at first, but the Devil's Claw is fine until you unlock some of your class specifics. The Evis has been talked about to death and for good reason, it's very good and should unlock in your teens. The 1h chainsword is okay, you probably have used that on another class and ehhhh.

But yeah I found the basic 1h sword to do a lot of work, and I still take it out on occasion at level 30. The axe, you kind of need one that works for your playstyle before you can really make it shine. The heavy sword is bad and you should avoid it.

As far as ranged goes I prefer guns I can whip out quickly like the revolver or the smg, both of which should unlock relatively early. That said, the shotgun is a very good all-rounder with surprising damage at range. The rifles are more situational, since you really shouldn't be doing all the long range work but sometimes a vet just isn't available.

juggalo baby coffin posted:

i like that if you die in the big open yard with the overhead bridge section in the repair mission, you initially respawn at the control room above it, but as soon as your team gets nearer you get teleported to the loving event room and have to sit out for like 10 minutes.

edit: my top tip for weapon variants is to look at the actual paint colour on the weapon. so far it seems to be

greenish paint -> balanced stats
brown paint -> high damage / slower attack
blue paint -> low damage / fast attack

any of the weapons with multiple variants seem to follow this pattern. although w the catachan devil swords they dont have any paint on em so youre hosed there

Phlegmish posted:

So I should start out using the Devil's Claw, and then switch to the Evis as soon as it's available? Got it, thanks.

As for ranged, I guess I could try out the shotgun, see if it suits me. It makes sense since the Zealot is supposed to be an up-close sort of class.

litany of gulps posted:

I got a lot of early game use as a zealot from a Graia autogun. A lot of people go all-in close combat, but having a longer ranged weapon to balance out your melee can be good. Sometimes when you run two close combat weapons, you get stuck with your thumb up your rear end hiding behind a box while a bunch of gunners and scab guards pin you down like a helpless baby. Don't be afraid to try out a range of weapons, and don't save your money for the perfect weapon or whatever. The ordos are worthless and you'll always have more than you need, so just buy whatever looks interesting.

litany of gulps posted:

I got a lot of early game use as a zealot from a Graia autogun. A lot of people go all-in close combat, but having a longer ranged weapon to balance out your melee can be good. Sometimes when you run two close combat weapons, you get stuck with your thumb up your rear end hiding behind a box while a bunch of gunners and scab guards pin you down like a helpless baby. Don't be afraid to try out a range of weapons, and don't save your money for the perfect weapon or whatever. The ordos are worthless and you'll always have more than you need, so just buy whatever looks interesting.

Phlegmish posted:

Thanks, I'll be sure to experiment with different guns. Out of curiosity, are you still using that Graia autogun or have you switched to something else now that your Zealot is high-level?

withoutclass posted:

Is this a good slashy stabber for my big boy? I'm level 24 right now. Mostly have used shield but haven't gotten a shield upgrade in a long time.

Phlegmish posted:

So I should start out using the Devil's Claw, and then switch to the Evis as soon as it's available? Got it, thanks.

As for ranged, I guess I could try out the shotgun, see if it suits me. It makes sense since the Zealot is supposed to be an up-close sort of class.

AndyElusive posted:

I can't get enough of the chain axe as the Preacher but I also don't usually run missions higher than 3 difficulty because I'm a widdle level 25 baby who doesn't have a group to run missions with so I play with randos. Is my love for it going to bite me in the rear end later? Like am I going to find out it actually really sucks in higher difficulties?

Phlegmish posted:

Time for me to try out a new class. Which weapons would you guys recommend for a low-level Zealot?

AndyElusive posted:

I can't get enough of the chain axe as the Preacher but I also don't usually run missions higher than 3 difficulty because I'm a widdle level 25 baby who doesn't have a group to run missions with so I play with randos. Is my love for it going to bite me in the rear end later? Like am I going to find out it actually really sucks in higher difficulties?

terrorist ambulance posted:

I just had an Uprising difficulty random match where the audio cue for the horde played constantly and seemed to be playing over itself - like multiple audio cues at once - and the horde event lasted for like 5-10 minutes, just a constant stream of enemies. Eventually it ended and the map continued as normal, but our kills at the end were like 1800.

Is that a bug? As designed? It was pretty hectic even on uprising difficulty

Mendrian posted:

Yeah a lot of people seem to hate it but a nice orange chain ax with good perks it just awesome. I run it a lot on Heresy and I've never had issues. It handles hoards well enough though slower than a big cleave weapon but it takes down heavies very quickly and you see more of them on higher difficulties.

Ellipson posted:

I've had this happen, it's been ages though. Just constantly looping horde music with it spawning every minute. Think it's just a director bug.

deep dish peat moss posted:

Are "Low Intensity" missions bugged? Every one I've tried in the past week has been a literal non-stop constant onslaught of both specialists and shooter hordes. Like, literally from the minute you first engage until you eventually wipe, waves and waves of things never stop spawning, it's nearly impossible to push forward because as soon as you eliminate the 6 scab gunners, there are 5 new ones.

juggalo baby coffin posted:

hadron... hello

WarpedLichen posted:

I've played a couple during the weekend and they seem like pretty chill affairs, not sure what you saw.

High Intensity is a poo poo show though, enemies spawning in thin air. Had a poxburster spawn in one of those shipping containers on the desert level that instantly blew up and throw me off a cliff.

Anybody else getting carried a lot in Heresy+ by Zealots with combat knives? Not sure what the deal is but they're like Sonic just dashing everywhere and being seemingly unkillable.

Edit: also, holy poo poo you need +wounds on Heresy+, having only 2 is brutal. One poxburster hit and you can't get picked up.

WarpedLichen posted:

Anybody else getting carried a lot in Heresy+ by Zealots with combat knives? Not sure what the deal is but they're like Sonic just dashing everywhere and being seemingly unkillable.

deep dish peat moss posted:

Here are a few screenshots I was able to grab in the very brief seconds where I could take my hands off other more important keys in the 4* Low Intensity mission I just ran

This pace does not ever stop. It's constant. You don't wipe out a group of baddies then move forward, you constantly fight through an endless sea of enemies of all kinds. It's been like this every time I've tried a Low Intensity mission on any difficulty recently.

OGS-Remix posted:

Something is definitely wrong for you because I did a low intensity 5 difficulty which was probably only as difficult as a 3. Low intensities 4 turns into like 2 difficulty. It's an easy way to level up since the low intensity still counts as a mission modifier but it's way easier and you get a ton more exp.

I've never been stressed at all during low intensity; like a lot of the end areas have a lot of waiting time simply because mobs aren't spawning and we're killing them very quickly.

field balm posted:

quote:

There is a 1 in 37,03 chance per shop refresh that a specific weapon will have a specific perk
there is a 1 in 28139 chance per shop refresh that a specific weapon will have a specific perk and be rolled 370+ base stat rating (top right corner in the "bars" section). With a 370+ weapon, you can still have a 50% damage roll.
there is a 1 in 9,6 chance per shop refresh that a curio will have 2 specific perks.


These are not even considering perk rating (for example, 2% crit chance or 5% crit chance). As the shop only refreshes once an hour, that is an estimated 37,03 hours played to obtain the weapon you want with specific 1 perk (still not considering rating). For curios you even need to upgrade from blue to purple rarity, to even see which 2 perks it gets.

Furthermore, this post by u/EndoM8rix tells us that emperors gifts are capped to 20 per week, account wide for some reason, hard capping the amount of loot you can acquire. With 4 hours played per day, for a week, you can get 28 shop refreshes per week (280 weapons per week), and it would then take 9,25 days to obtain 1 specific weapon with a specific perk, and that may be a bad one. Emperors gifts then increases that to 300 weapons per week, which is then 8,64 days.

Fishstick posted:

Someone on reddit did the math:

explosivo posted:

Maybe you were in their way

If I have a shield I'm using it to swat huge swaths of enemies away from everybody in the group so you can shoot without getting attacked and if you're between me and a horde then stop shooting for like .5 seconds and let me through then continue firing, you have like 700 bullets

Definitely not arguing that there are terrible Ogryns who suck complete rear end though. Just saying sometimes i might have to walk through you because there's nowhere else to go and I'm big!

dogstile posted:

But you're going to be able to swap perks about on weapons, which is going to significantly shorten that?

I'm also still not sure how a shop that gives you 15 or so options every hour is worse than VT2's system of box per mission, because surely that's less options?

Fishstick posted:

The number of options is kind of irrelevant if all you want is a staff or a specific melee weapon and the shop is filled with everything except those 2, every hour, for days. Crafting doesn't increase power rating beyond a certain amount either, so even if you were able to find a weapon unless they plan to add actual upgrading of the modifiers / rating of a weapon, even with crafting in you will still need to interact with the shop. In V2 I can whip up a a grey of max rating, upgrade it to orange or red, and reroll it to what i want, given i have enough mats, and I can start playing. For my max level dudes in Darktide I just log in every hour and see if the weapons are want are there this time, and if they have at least one of the perks i'm lookin for.

dogstile posted:

Fucker's should just add grey crafting and let the broke brains hammer our their max efficiency weapons, i guess. That way they'll just powergrind crafting mats and upgrade from base + discard over and over again.

Carcer posted:

Game is great to play, but I've gotten like 4 missions done in 3 days because of constant server disconnects. Getting to the lobby is a minor victory and actually loading into a mission is an elusive and far off goal.

dogstile posted:

I'm also still not sure how a shop that gives you 15 or so options every hour is worse than VT2's system of box per mission, because surely that's less options?