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joepinetree posted:Oh, but there is something specific about this new sort of invasion that I didn't anticipate happening after we killed yagluth My strategy for dealing with them is to just leave my base, then have them chase me to some Lox, then let them duke it out while I go see if there's any more Seekers around
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PittTheElder posted:I haven't tried it but can you snap either 1m beams or horizontal corewood to the bottom? That would let you offset them better. And frankly I should do that anyway. It plays ok with existing games?
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No idea honestly.FLIPADELPHIA posted:What would valheim plus do for that? I'm not super familiar with all its features. It has an edit mode that lets you place something then edit its position by nudging it around with the arrow keys.
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I forgot just what a pain in the rear end Bonemass is compared to the first two bosses. Even with fully upgraded iron armor, shield and an iron mace, he hits like a truck and has way too much life, not to mention faffing about in the swamp just drags.
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Glass of Milk posted:I forgot just what a pain in the rear end Bonemass is compared to the first two bosses. Even with fully upgraded iron armor, shield and an iron mace, he hits like a truck and has way too much life, not to mention faffing about in the swamp just drags. Max out your gear. Use the best possible food, if you can get some serpent meat it will help. Clear out any mobs around the altar before hand. Bring healing and poison res potions.
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And flatten ground around the altar so you don't slow down in water and you don't have to deal with random leeches.
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Glass of Milk posted:I forgot just what a pain in the rear end Bonemass is compared to the first two bosses. Even with fully upgraded iron armor, shield and an iron mace, he hits like a truck and has way too much life, not to mention faffing about in the swamp just drags. He only hits like a truck if you let him hit you. His hits are super slow and easy to parry.
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Bonemass unprepared: You fell into a puddle and can't move You're out of stamina You don't recover stamina You're constantly poisoned and it kills you in 10 seconds You/half of your group are dead weight trying to kill the thing with arrows and swords, the boss has a huge health pool to compensate for players that are there but don't actually help Oh poo poo a leech out of nowhere bit me Oh poo poo it's actually 5 leeches We pulled draugr too We died about two items in actually Bonemass prepared*: It's a Taurus Demon tank and spank romp on a flat arena with an occasional break to dodge the puke and Instagib a blob or two. *Prepared: some kind of mace, poison mead, a little puddle clearing with the hoe before the fight. Upgrading all your gear helps but it's not mandatory. Washin Tong fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Dec 14, 2022 |
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So I have to admit I'm eating a bit of crow with my previous criticisms of the game's dev process, given how impressive and expansive the Mistlands biome is. I have avoided spoilers as much as possible so I figured it would be a copy / paste add on with nothing all that new. Happy to admit I was wrong and the update bodes well for the next one. Mistlands are like a totally new experience, much the way that the swamp biome was a big step up in ambiance and difficulty. Having a ton of fun over here with the crew.
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Bonemass tip: Just use stagbreaker to find silver and skip him Not sure what they gated behind him on the vendor though
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But then you don't get his awesome boss ability which helps so much with wolves, the plains, and mistlands.
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Jusupov posted:Bonemass tip: Just use stagbreaker to find silver and skip him You can just cheese the fight by building a tower in one of those invincible trees and just shooting him from range until he dies. It's tedious as gently caress, but it works. I'd still rather fight him melee, though. Either way, skipping him seems to be the worse option, in my view
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Jusupov posted:Bonemass tip: Just use stagbreaker to find silver and skip him Ymir flesh, which is required for one of the best weapons in game. Dwesa fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 14, 2022 |
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I only chose a god power in mistlands, and it was eikthyr. You also choose to not have events when you don't kill bosses
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If you just don't play, you can skip right to the end and uninstall, scrubs
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Magmarashi posted:If you just don't play, you can skip right to the end and uninstall, scrubs We have several players on our server with varying amounts of free time to build their poo poo, I don't want to ruin their fun by having a bunch of trolls and fulings show up when they're on doing their own thing
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Jusupov posted:We have several players on our server with varying amounts of free time to build their poo poo, I don't want to ruin their fun by having a bunch of trolls and fulings show up when they're on doing their own thing The way some people get around this is they have a second map they only use to defeat the bosses. The boss/mob progression is world based, not user based. That way you can have the best of both worlds. Obviously someone would have to scout for boss stones/trader location (or use one of the online map tools to discover those locations) but other than that it would help you do what you want. You could buy all the ymir flesh you want from the 2nd world to make your sick weapons, and bring over the boss items from that world to your main one.
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It costs a ton of stone, but you can build your poo poo on a raised platform of earth and you become essentially immune to almost all mobs. That's how I built my big central base in the plains. The flying mobs are all weak, I get maybe one death skeeto every six or seven game hours that manages to get up there. If you're high enough up the seekers can't get up there either and they just wander around outside your base killing other mobs until they get whittled down.
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Eifert Posting posted:It costs a ton of stone, but you can build your poo poo on a raised platform of earth and you become essentially immune to almost all mobs. That's how I built my big central base in the plains. The flying mobs are all weak, I get maybe one death skeeto every six or seven game hours that manages to get up there. If you're high enough up the seekers can't get up there either and they just wander around outside your base killing other mobs until they get whittled down. you got any photos?
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That amount of terrain fuckery can be pretty hard on performance though.
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Also sounds way more tedious than just dealing with the occasional mob that wanders in from outside the no-spawn zone
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anatomi posted:That amount of terrain fuckery can be pretty hard on performance though. This has largely been solved, depending on scale. If you're building a base that goes to the horizon in every direction, yeah it'll still slow down. But if you've got a typical base with large storage, individual rooms/buildings for players, wolf/boar/lox pasture, big farm and some fancy bits it's no problem.
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Really? That's awesome!
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The real thing loving performance in the Mistlands patch apparently is the fish jumping around everywhere. Game runs the worst it ever has on our server 
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I was initially so happy that our new base ran close to 60fps, but then we built a big stone hall, and... Yeah, I'm down to 30 at best, 15 at worst. I'm using my Steam deck; are there any performance tips anyone can give me?
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Yeah - we have a moderately big base area and it's slugglish. 35ish FPS when I get 90+ out and about in the black forest. I think the biggest factor may be the wolf guards and boar pits we have- the presence of creatures seems to be the biggest fps variable but that's just anecdotal.
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A good portion of our people playing together almost started Bonemass last night. One of the initial starting group said he'd be be online and ready to go as soon as he got back from the gym. At 10pm the one dad of the group went to bed and we trickled out shortly after, having waited to our limit. We almost started the fight. So close. Not knowing about the Stagbreaker trick before I ran around some more in a small mountain biome trying really hard to only die every once in a while. I was rewarded with two silver capes and 20 or so more ingots. I'd feel dirty skipping ahead like this if I hadn't spent 2-3 hours just messing around on that mountain over the past week. You can search the thread since I may be way off, but I think mass leveling of the ground has caused these performance issues since launch. Also reboot your dedicated servers often.
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I get fewer frames around my base but it's not really necessary to run super smooth there I'd say it's about 30 frames. Up until a couple of hours of gameplay ago I would have told you the crossbow is utterly useless, But then I realized it's the perfect tool for getting rabbit meat. Edit: It seems like there should be some way to have the game relearn topography. Periodically so it's not constantly having to struggle to remember terraforming.
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Has anyone gotten valheim plus running on a server once things are established? I had to take a trip when we got ours up and running so right now its vanilla. A few of the players don't use mods often either so I'm a bit leery of loving with things. Seems like its a real simple install of the Valheim+ files into the directory for everyone using the server, and then the server owner can modify the values. I use survivalservers.com if that matters.
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Also, has there ever been a definitive "we fixed the topography issue" post or patch note from the devs? I've seen a couple people make that claim in this thread but I've never seen it supported by anything official.
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Yeah, the 0.150.3 patch notes have it. https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/892970/view/5411613798265437192
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It's worth saying if terraforming by itself could make the game unplayable then it would absolutely happen around my main base. I leveled a mountain dug a canal and put my entire base on a platform.
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Sixto Lezcano posted:Yeah, the 0.150.3 patch notes have it. Thank you! We planned our base with minimizing terraforming in mind, so I'm guessing the choppiness is just related to the number of buildings and creatures we have. Smoke effects also seem to have an effect as well.
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Light sources and/or particle sources are traditionally performance killers in any game engine.
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Corbeau posted:Light sources and/or particle sources are traditionally performance killers in any game engine. That's what I believe is my issue; we've had a trench built around our plains base as well as a lox pen made from risen ground since we first moved here with just a shack and a portal, and it used to be buttery smooth. It's also very smooth when I go down to the river, when the house unloads from my view distance, but the full lox pen is still nearby.
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Eifert Posting posted:It costs a ton of stone, but you can build your poo poo on a raised platform of earth and you become essentially immune to almost all mobs. That's how I built my big central base in the plains. The flying mobs are all weak, I get maybe one death skeeto every six or seven game hours that manages to get up there. If you're high enough up the seekers can't get up there either and they just wander around outside your base killing other mobs until they get whittled down. This only works till you kill yagluth. The post yagluth content will get around that
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joepinetree posted:This only works till you kill yagluth. The post yagluth content will get around that "They sought you out"  Question about that... Do Gjall's ever show up, even if you built in some other non-Mistlands biome?
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Gjall raid is mistlands only. I had a seeker attack on our main meadows base. It was not pretty for our 1 star wolf guards.
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concise posted:valhost.net is $9/mo and worked great for my group until we started self hosting a docker container Have you gotten the new content in your container yet? I just got around to trying today and the container wont download the new server. I'm using lloesche/valheim-server.
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joepinetree posted:This only works till you kill yagluth. The post yagluth content will get around that I've. They can't get enough lift to get up to me.
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