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Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

GreenBuckanneer posted:

What's a nice sized container to hold your commander deck, and any tokens/dice you might bring along with it? any thread favorites?

I'll need like four, probably

Hold a deck and tokens? Probably the Satin Towers by Ultra Pro. I have a Watchtower XL, great deckbox that can comfortably hold double sleeved EDH deck tokens (unsleeved), the center tray holds all my dice I may need to use for counters, or spin down. Satin tower if you want to do each deck separately with their tokens and dice, a pair of Watchtower XLs if you want to have them two at a time.

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Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
Also a fan of satin towers here. A bit bulky overall but nice.

I've been considering getting a Quiver for carrying multiple decks though.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Jiro posted:

Hold a deck and tokens? Probably the Satin Towers by Ultra Pro. I have a Watchtower XL, great deckbox that can comfortably hold double sleeved EDH deck tokens (unsleeved), the center tray holds all my dice I may need to use for counters, or spin down. Satin tower if you want to do each deck separately with their tokens and dice, a pair of Watchtower XLs if you want to have them two at a time.

I figured I'd get individual ones since these are for the 4 commander decks I bought (warham) but I suppose I could see bringing two at once

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

BizarroAzrael posted:

BR for Nahiri might work, I always think of her being strongly tied to white being a Kor but BR artifact mechanics could work for her, especially with the phyrexian association, although a lot of your proposed pairings, whilst making sense, are part black. I think she needs to survive and be put down/saved/both by Sorin to resolve their thing though.

Guess it makes sense to not double up on pairings we've seen from Tamiyo and Ajani which doesn't seem to be an issue based on the above accept I think Vraska stays GB and that means one of the elves gets a new second color, which I don't think can be black (Vraska) white (Ajani) blue (Tamyo) so is one of them going to be red? I could actually see Lukka in RG actually.

that last part, you know who's green and very into someone who is red?


that's right RG Nissa

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin

I'm hoping Lukka goes for the accidentally working for the bad guys trifecta and joins the Phyrexians because he thinks they're neat

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
I am a big fan of the sidewinders. The sidewinder 100 should be about the best deck box you can spend money on if you don't need it to hold anything but your deck. Its maybe the best deck box ever made IMO.

When it comes to any magic accessories, ultimate guard is kind of the best at about everything. I hate being a brand homer, but about every product they make is maybe best in class.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
what's up with Babar? i think i saw him on strixhaven boosters too

edit: Haha was trying to find out if Junto Ito shipped since it seems people are already getting em, and I thought I maybe imagined ordering them. Nah, turns out Wizards just doesn't say "Magic" anywhere when getting a confirmation email for buying Magic cards.

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Dec 14, 2022

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


Khanstant posted:

what's up with Babar? i think i saw him on strixhaven boosters too

Quintorius is a mage from the Lorehold school on Strixhaven. I dunno, he’s a big elephant.

Thom Yorke raps
Nov 2, 2004


Considering building mono U spirits for pioneer, since it is cheap and I like that sort of play pattern. Will I be able to compete, or is it too budget?

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Thom Yorke raps posted:

Considering building mono U spirits for pioneer, since it is cheap and I like that sort of play pattern. Will I be able to compete, or is it too budget?

I think its a fine deck.

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

Lukka is like Ikoria itself: he sucks

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
I still think Ikoria would have been much better regarded if it weren't in the same standard as Eldraine, which just dominated the whole enviroment

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.


Wizards running a promotion in Japan; every 10 packs you buy from your LGS you get a mini-poster (three posters if you buy a box) that has a chance to have a golden ticket in them that wins you one of these 60 plaques drawn and signed by Junji Ito.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

Charity Porno posted:

I still think Ikoria would have been much better regarded if it weren't in the same standard as Eldraine, which just dominated the whole enviroment

it was that, the fact that companions dominated the entire conversation about the set, and also that it was the first paper set to come out after the pandemic lockdowns started so it got next to no paper play

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

I mean I also think the setting sucks.

jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...

flatluigi posted:

it was that, the fact that companions dominated the entire conversation about the set, and also that it was the first paper set to come out after the pandemic lockdowns started so it got next to no paper play

That last one. I bought a box of Ikoria, which was the last box I bought just because my LGS opened back up for limited sales (no in store play) and I was worried about them having enough $$$ to stay open. So I bought poo poo just to funnel my fun money their way. It was an interesting idea for a set, I do love Kaiju, but it didn't resonate as well as I'd hoped. At least I got a Space Godzilla, Death Corona!

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Charity Porno posted:

I still think Ikoria would have been much better regarded if it weren't in the same standard as Eldraine, which just dominated the whole enviroment

it was a bad draft environment too

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Kashuno posted:

it was a bad draft environment too

Ikoria is an all timer you stoner.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Ya an all timer where you just blindly take every cycling {1} card passed your way and hope only one or two other people at the table are in on it.

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.
The cycling deck was way too dominant to consider it an all time great draft environment.

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Ya an all timer where you just blindly take every cycling {1} card passed your way and hope only one or two other people at the table are in on it.

Wittgen posted:

The cycling deck was way too dominant to consider it an all time great draft environment.

Strong disagree, and even if the Cycling deck was a bit pushed I think the texture companions added to deck construction more than made up for it. It was a complex, skill testing set that filtered a lot of people but imo it's the best draft set of the ones that released on Arena.

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Admittedly I haven't drafted it since the companion change so maybe it sucks now idk.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

fadam posted:

Strong disagree, and even if the Cycling deck was a bit pushed I think the texture companions added to deck construction more than made up for it. It was a complex, skill testing set that filtered a lot of people but imo it's the best draft set of the ones that released on Arena.

Yup

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

Companions would be pretty cool if they were stronger archetypes and with the original text, but crucially had been only limited to, well, limited play environments (and I guess commander)


It's a really neat idea for a draft environment, and it'd be a really cool format to basically have each deck be required to have a companion. Maybe every pack has one and you always take it + a card first?

Edit: actually that reminds me that towards the end of Dominaria we did some like.. I guess you'd call them commander drafts? Where you could only play cards in the colors of one of the legendary creatures you had opened or been passed. It was a ton of fun (and uh.. definitely higher variance sometimes)

Weird Pumpkin fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Dec 14, 2022

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

Companions and the profusion of cycling 1 both felt like the kind of errors WotC's design team don't normally make. And it has to be said I think the design team is actually pretty loving good most of the time

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

Companions and the profusion of cycling 1 both felt like the kind of errors WotC's design team don't normally make. And it has to be said I think the design team is actually pretty loving good most of the time

I mean again this came on the heels of Eldraine which was probably the biggest wtf set balancewise since Mirrodin

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
In hindsight I’m not sure the companions were that cool for limited after the first few t”goes with them.

1) the restrictions were so warping you usually couldn’t go all in unless you saw them pack one

2) They were just build arounds like most others, except entirely proscriptive about how to go about it, and very ‘loud’ since you saw them every game.

3) they ran out of cool ones after like 4 or 5

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

fadam posted:

Strong disagree, and even if the Cycling deck was a bit pushed I think the texture companions added to deck construction more than made up for it. It was a complex, skill testing set that filtered a lot of people but imo it's the best draft set of the ones that released on Arena.

You can't say that a few rares are a reason a draft format is good or not.

plainswalker75
Feb 22, 2003

Pigs are smarter than Bears, but they can't ride motorcycles
Hair Elf

Khanstant posted:

what's up with Babar? i think i saw him on strixhaven boosters too

TotalHell posted:

Quintorius is a mage from the Lorehold school on Strixhaven. I dunno, he’s a big elephant.

IIRC, he's too scholarly for Elephant-town and too Elephanty for Scholar-town. His side-story was about not worrying about others and learning to follow your own passions or something

Peteyfoot
Nov 24, 2007

Peteyfoot posted:

I've been having a lot of fun as a new MTG player with one of the mono blue decks recommended to me earlier in the thread. Can I get some recommendations for a control deck that would be suitable for a beginner?

Crosspostin' from the MTGA thread! Oh yeah and this is for Standard.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
It's wild to me to think anyone could put Ikoria above like, DMU or NEO. Both just absolute bangers of formats. IKO isn't like, the worst draft set that has been on arena but it's mid at best. Mutate was fine but ended up not being anything to really write home about, Companions in the draft format were garbage after the rule change, and the cycling deck ruling the day just made for a boring stale experience pretty quick imo

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

In hindsight I’m not sure the companions were that cool for limited after the first few t”goes with them.

1) the restrictions were so warping you usually couldn’t go all in unless you saw them pack one

2) They were just build arounds like most others, except entirely proscriptive about how to go about it, and very ‘loud’ since you saw them every game.

3) they ran out of cool ones after like 4 or 5

Yeah this is why I think it'd be an interesting idea for a draft format, but you'd have to ensure that every single pack has at least one and that you cover a wide variety of colors and archetypes

For what it's worth, Triple OG Innistrad is still the best limited format I've ever played, and I'm honestly not sure how you could dethrone it

Fucker
Jan 4, 2013
i just drafted ikoria b4 the rule change and it was epic then. change shouldnt have happened on draft
cycling was too strong, its a negative point for the set
still much better than dmu imo. i like dmu a lot less than everyone else

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Weird Pumpkin posted:

(and I guess commander)

Explains why one literally cannot be used, one was banned for being completely free, and one purports to be hybrid g/r but is actually 5-color.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Ikoria draft started out fine, became horrible once people found the cycling deck, and then became fine again once enough people knew about it that you'd have multiple people fighting over it.

I'm not sure it was ever a great format though.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
I quite like Ikoria's look and vibe, though they probably could have done more with it, I don't even recall what the story was. Attack On Titan-influenced humans vs monsters was neat, except it doesn't mechanically work well with other sets where there are humanoids other than humans.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
Apparently leaked by an official WOTC account on Weibo?

dragon enthusiast fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Dec 15, 2022

Cactrot
Jan 11, 2001

Go Go Cactus Galactus





dragon enthusiast posted:

Apparently leaked by an official WOTC account on Weibo?


Legit surprised that they'd compleat Jace, but I doubt they have the courage to make it stick.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
Jace will scream "NOOOOOOOO" and throw elesh norn off a cliff.

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Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
I suppose this is where they learn how to un-compleat people because there's no way they're going to leave their most prominent character in that state. Jace is like the fuckin Mario of MTG at this point lol

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