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I've always wondered how many goals Stamkos would've gotten without all the injuries. He's about to get to 500, and I think he could've challenged for 700. Not Ovie level by any means. I'm mostly happy he's still as productive as he is after all the injuries.
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Stammer drops in around 1.7 goals per 60 minutes of ice time, all situations. Ovie averages 1.9 for the same. Still pretty exceptional.
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Dec 14, 2022 18:54
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Looks like Dallas Eakins is still a hilariously terrible coach
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Dec 14, 2022 19:06
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Stamkos has missed like 150 games, so he'd probably be getting close to 600 by now assuming he had another 60-80 goals in those games. Maybe it's even more, and he could have 100+ more than he does, if you assume he also scores more in the games he did play because in this hypothetical he's not playing injured at all. I think he'll probably still get 600 or very close to it. 32 is "old" for the NHL but if he plays another 4-5 years who knows.
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Dec 14, 2022 19:10
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Kale posted:Looks like Dallas Eakins is still a hilariously terrible coach He was an awful coach with the fuckin Marlies over a decade ago, I remember he ripped Kadri in training camp for having an unacceptable body fat % lol
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Kale posted:Looks like Dallas Eakins is still a hilariously terrible coach Terrible screen grab, but poo poo like this is hilarious because it keeps on happening on every team he coaches 
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Dec 14, 2022 19:14
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I laughed even more because during the break the talking heads were blathering about how Marner was shooting more this season and therefore Gibson had to respect Marner potentially shooting there and couldn't worry about a pass getting through.
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Dec 14, 2022 19:20
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Positively Dave Hakstolian!
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Dec 14, 2022 19:24
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Can we stick a fork in Philly and Columbus yet?
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Dec 14, 2022 19:28
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https://twitter.com/SethRorabaugh/status/1603085838254063617?s=20&t=NJzLfxd0NMepR-w2Wtu86Q Pens went an impressive stretch of being healthy but this was bound to happen sooner or later.
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Dec 14, 2022 19:31
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Cartoon Man posted:Can we stick a fork in Philly and Columbus yet? Yeah I think the East playoff teams are pretty close to set already. The top 3 in each division seem pretty safe, especially in the Atlantic, even if their order changes. I think the Islanders, Rangers, Panthers, and Capitals will be jockeying for those two wild card spots.
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Cartoon Man posted:Can we stick a fork in Philly and Columbus yet? Two weeks ago Torts was talking about how the Flyers were only five points out lol
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Dec 14, 2022 19:36
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That wasn't Torts it was Fletcher. Torts basically said "we suck"
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Dec 14, 2022 19:37
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I am terribly sorry for disparaging the wrong idiot
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Dec 14, 2022 19:38
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RMNB with the charts. Some of these lists aren’t complete cause it’s too long, like he’s scored on 165 freaking goalies over the years…      
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Ovie had that dip when everyone figured out he'd want to go outside towards the left wall and then do the toe drag and release into shinpads. Trotz, I think, should be credited with reworking their offense to get better looks and spacing for Ovie off the rush/zone entrances. Didn't that happen under Adam Oates? He may have never been a good coach but at least he remembered how he set up Brett Hull.
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Dec 14, 2022 19:41
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We don’t talk about the Oatese.cx years…
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Ginette Reno posted:https://twitter.com/SethRorabaugh/status/1603085838254063617?s=20&t=NJzLfxd0NMepR-w2Wtu86Q Well Matheson has only played like 9 games so at least the got a few months outta Petry instead.
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The Dirty Burger posted:He was an awful coach with the fuckin Marlies over a decade ago, I remember he ripped Kadri in training camp for having an unacceptable body fat % lol Best part is it's ok to laugh at him for being a bad coach because he's also a giant pissbaby. In the late "we have nothing else to talk about" part of the game the announcers broke out a story of how the Leafs had a photo of Wendel Clark skating away from some dude he'd just beat up and left in a crumpled pile on the ice hanging in the dressing room. When Dallas Eakins was a Leaf assistant, he made them take it down because that was his body in the pic and he claimed the picture was an unfair depiction of the fight because he claimed it was a draw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHRxxlj2n68. Like I can see wanting it down because it's harder for a coach to get the respect of guys in the room when there's a pic of them getting embarrassed that the guys are staring at all day, but that was not a draw.
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You also could not possibly identify who was being fought in the picture as all but an arm was obscured by Wendel.
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But his mom told him that it was a draw, so it must have been. He's lucky he went down fast or he would have really gotten his rear end kicked.
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Koopa Kid posted:Terrible screen grab, but poo poo like this is hilarious because it keeps on happening on every team he coaches Revenge of the Swarm! 
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pseudodragon posted:Like I can see wanting it down because it's harder for a coach to get the respect of guys in the room when there's a pic of them getting embarrassed that the guys are staring at all day, but that was not a draw. It also wasn't much of a fight. I bet the picture was better than the video. But, yes, Dallas Eakins sucks.
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eXXon posted:I laughed even more because during the break the talking heads were blathering about how Marner was shooting more this season and therefore Gibson had to respect Marner potentially shooting there and couldn't worry about a pass getting through. It prob looks different in full motion but if Gibson backs up to his right and seals the short side post there he leaves that pass across even more open than it is in that pic. If he backs towards the guy in the paint he opens a bunch of room on the short side. Looks like he's playing that situation fine to me, it has to be almost impossible to play the position (at least at this level) if you base your angle/depth/reads on the assumption that your defence is going to be horrendously loving everything up that badly. I am also a very dim and stupid person so would be interested for a better goalie knower to describe how Gibson should've played that one
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Really the broadcast should probably not be talking about the goalie when there’s two opposing players behind four defenders in-zone. That wasn’t a rush opportunity either, Marner got passed the puck at the blueline, skated downhill and that… situation just manifested.
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Dec 14, 2022 21:45
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imo the Sens have decent talent and just need a competent coach.
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Yeah, Gibson doesn't look off the angles on it. He just doesn't have any help from the rest of his team. Someone needs to be boxing out Tavares and I'm sure at least 1-2 of the Ducks had a chance to get in better position on Marner too.
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I don't see how that's Gibson's fault. It's 4-on-2 down low, the goalie's job there is the shot. It's up to the other 4 dudes to either break up the pass or take JT/Marner out of the play. Or better yet, not let 2 guys get between them and the goalie in the first place.
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Uh, I'm not saying Gibson is the only person or even the main one at fault there, but Marner switched to his backhand and was angling away from the crease. There wasn't really a reasonable opportunity for a shot. I suppose Marner could have gone back to his forehand and cut across the crease, but either way lots of goalies keep their sticks ready to poke away cross-crease passes and that was a perfectly reasonable option for Gibson there.
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lol Atlanta. That's like 6 goals a year against them.
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Also watching the Ducks play reinforced for me that Gibson didn’t suddenly become bad, he’s just getting shelled constantly behind an awful, awful team. Dude made a bunch of good saves before being forced out of the game.
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It sure looked, from multiple angles, that the head was the principle point of contact. Not sure why there wasn’t a penalty?!
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You can hit to the head, it's not strictly illegal.quote:48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an The main by the book thing with that hit is whether it was "avoidable" -- like he could have hit him a different way to not brain him, and did Hronek put himself in that position.
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What the gently caress was Hronek doing there. I'm not saying he deserved to get hit like that, but he was being really loving stupid.
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Wait so you're allowed to just ram the guy with the puck coming down the ice? Why doesn't the defense just do that on every play?
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DancingMachine posted:Wait so you're allowed to just ram the guy with the puck coming down the ice? Why doesn't the defense just do that on every play? Cause if you gently caress it up there’s a wide range of bad things that can happen to you
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DancingMachine posted:Wait so you're allowed to just ram the guy with the puck coming down the ice? Why doesn't the defense just do that on every play? It's extremely difficult to hit the guy square on and pretty much requires him to not be paying attention, usually you'll whiff which takes you completely out of the play and also can get you injured. Plus it's hard to line him up without it being charging. Reaves can try it because hitting/cheapshotting/trying to injure dudes is his entire job and taking himself out of the play doesn't matter since he does nothing useful hockeywise anyway. But 95% of players will just infuriate their coach if they go for the big open ice hit and miss. It's actually one of the most obvious differences between hockey now and hockey 20+ years ago, watch any game from the late 90s and there are dudes flying around trying for big open ice hits and usually missing all the time. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Yeah, it gets risky as soon as you have to take one (1) stride. However, tonight that didn't particularly matter... https://twitter.com/JoeSmithNHL/status/1603228669010497537 Detroit coaching staff's take.
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Koth posted:What the gently caress was Hronek doing there. I'm not saying he deserved to get hit like that, but he was being really loving stupid. He was looking over making sure he wasn't about to get his pocket picked and have a breakaway go the other way.
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