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I saw CFA in Dublin a couple years ago and it sucked rear end. It's weird as an Irish person seeing a fake stagey version of Newfie culture, which itself seems to be a kind of ersatz early-20th century Irish thing. It was like a tenth-copy illegible Xerox of real life.
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Frosted Flake posted:I just thought they’d have country estates, go big game hunting and work on oil paintings in their leisure time not be Disney Adults and move to a central Florida suburb. the suburbs are violently bland
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Failed Imagineer posted:I saw CFA in Dublin a couple years ago and it sucked rear end. It's weird as an Irish person seeing a fake stagey version of Newfie culture, which itself seems to be a kind of ersatz early-20th century Irish thing. It was like a tenth-copy illegible Xerox of real life. I posted about this in the Ukraine Thread but Canada uniquely took almost only Irish Protestants so that’s the culture that was scanned and rescanned. Don’t know if that makes it better or worse.
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webcams for christ posted:this is causing a genuine crisis for many legacy non-profit arts organizations. Museums and Symphony Orchestras are losing their patrons to Marvel and Star Wars lmao it sucks good, old music sucks
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Frosted Flake posted:My condolences
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ive lived in Philly all my life and only had chicago deep dish pizza at places like Uno and always said it was gross but my friends would tell me "no you gotta go to Chicago and get the real thing its amazing" So I was in Chicago in 2015 and i went to the most authentic chicago pizza place you could find. Burning hearth, exposed brick wall, had a real "mobsters eat here" vibe to it and I ordered the deep dish pizza. And i took one bite and suddenly thought to myself "yea this is still gross"
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Frosted Flake posted:I posted about this in the Ukraine Thread but Canada uniquely took almost only Irish Protestants so that’s the culture that was scanned and rescanned. Don’t know if that makes it better or worse. Worse
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Frosted Flake posted:I posted about this in the Ukraine Thread but Canada uniquely took almost only Irish Protestants so that’s the culture that was scanned and rescanned. Don’t know if that makes it better or worse. my gf is Irish Protestant and it’s been a disappointment. Doesn’t seen like a real Irish.
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mawarannahr posted:my gf is Irish Protestant and it’s been a disappointment. Doesn’t seen like a real Irish. 
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Biplane posted:The absolute worst sicko I worked with down there used to go in to the park on his days off, fully Disney'd up, and just do his job for free. I've never had a physical reaction to a post until now. Jesus Christ.
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If I had that amount of money I would just buy a cartoonishly expensive PC to run Skyrim with the most powerful ENB.
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Biplane posted:The absolute worst sicko I worked with down there used to go in to the park on his days off, fully Disney'd up, and just do his job for free. WHAT
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Biplane posted:The absolute worst sicko I worked with down there used to go in to the park on his days off, fully Disney'd up, and just do his job for free. You need to spoiler this and post a content warning.
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PokeJoe posted:WHAT 
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People blaming inflation on handouts, not corporate rent-seeking https://twitter.com/PolicemanMeme/status/1603086108140703746?t=-eInbb7DTwJVejTWQPykCw&s=19
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Of course that 13 likes nobody has already paid for a checkmark.
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posting the meme loser should be probateable
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Failed Imagineer posted:posting the meme loser should be probateable
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It is, honestly, one of the most pathetic accounts out there. A one-winged dung beetle type of sad.
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Panfilo posted:People blaming inflation on handouts, not corporate rent-seeking the meme policeman
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AnimeIsTrash posted:the meme policeman as smart as a policeman as dumb as a shitposter, the worst of all worlds
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AnimeIsTrash posted:the meme policeman Your meme is under arrest!!!
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mawarannahr posted:my gf is Irish Protestant and it’s been a disappointment. Doesn’t seen like a real Irish. Technically Irish protestants would have been descended from English colonists who settled in Ireland and enjoyed benefits of their status as colonizers. Then there's the others who were Irish and had "taken the soup", a term for Irish who converted to Protestantism to escape the persecution Catholics faced as second class citizens. Ostracized by the Irish for betraying their people, but never fully accepted by the English.
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Marenghi posted:Technically Irish protestants would have been descended from English colonists who settled in Ireland and enjoyed benefits of their status as colonizers. that is some shameful settler-rear end descent
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Biplane posted:The absolute worst sicko I worked with down there used to go in to the park on his days off, fully Disney'd up, and just do his job for free. I first read this thinking you meant like, a public park, like maybe they wanted to make it so the poor kids that can't afford to go to Disney can meet mickey mouse or whatever, but no of course it's not that
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christmas boots posted:Your meme is under arrest!!! dead or alive, you're coming with meme
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mastershakeman posted:Symphonies do a ton of nutcracker productions this time of year and are laughing dismissively at activists saying it should be boycotted due to Russia Ukraine war
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Laterite posted:dead or alive, you're coming with meme I'd buy THAT for a Dogecoin!
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Marenghi posted:Technically Irish protestants would have been descended from English colonists who settled in Ireland and enjoyed benefits of their status as colonizers. Which ones are all the angry ones that came to Canada and wore the sashes?
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Laterite posted:dead or alive, you're coming with meme this caused me physical pain
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Frosted Flake posted:Which ones are all the angry ones that came to Canada and wore the sashes? The Orange Order, they're the descendants of the English settlers and believe themselves to be racially superior to the Irish. They like to march while dressed in sashes and bowler hats. They also really hate the Irish and have bonfires with effigies of Irish people. Taig is their slur for Irish and a popular slogan among them is Kill All Taigs. The orange order which spread to America morphed into the KKK, where it carried on the same anti-catholic discrimination and violence as a means of social control, and extended it to Black people. I didn't know they also spread to Canada. Did you guys also have a Klan? Marenghi has issued a correction as of 03:05 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Marenghi posted:I didn't know they also spread to Canada. Did you guys also have a Klan? Yeah they're called the RCMP
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Marenghi posted:I didn't know they also spread to Canada. Did you guys also have a Klan? Here is your serious answer: Toronto: The Belfast of Canada In late nineteenth-century Toronto, municipal politics were so dominated by the Irish Protestants of the Orange Order that the city was known as the “Belfast of Canada.” For almost a century, virtually every mayor of Toronto was an Orangeman and the anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne was a civic holiday. Toronto, the Belfast of Canada explores the intolerant origins of today’s cosmopolitan city. Using lodge membership lists, census data, and municipal records, William J. Smyth details the Orange Order’s role in creating Toronto’s municipal culture of militant Protestantism, loyalism, and monarchism. One of Canada’s foremost experts on the Orange Order, Smyth analyses the Orange Order’s influence between 1850 and 1950, the city’s frequent public displays of sectarian tensions, and its occasional bouts of rioting and mayhem. https://utorontopress.com/9781442666764/toronto-the-belfast-of-canada/ The Sash Canada Wore Here is the story of the rise, spread, and fall of the Orange Order in Canada. Beginning in 1800, the Order grew steadily in many parts of the country during the nineteenth century, reaching its peak in the early part of the twentieth century. Since then, with the changes in Canadian society, the Order has declined in popularity and since 1945 has almost disappeared. The Sash Canada Wore explains how this immigrant, ethnic ideology, widely known for its Protestant Irishness, opposition to Roman Catholics, and loyalty to the British royal family, managed to become so dominant, especially in Ontario, New Brunswick, and Newfoundland. The role of the Orange Lodge as a local centre for good times, social interaction, and mutual aid in the various frontier, farm, and urban communities of colonial Canada sustained its development. This role also allowed the Order to move beyond the boundaries of its Irish identity to include the English fishermen of Newfoundland, the Scottish miners of Nova Scotia, the German farmers of the Pontiac region of Quebec, the Scots and Mohawks of Ontario, and settlers of the Canadian prairies. The study is based on historical documents of the national Order, the manuscript records of more than fifty lodges, and the results of extensive field studies in Orange communities in every province. This significant contribution to Canadian social history will appeal not only to historians and geographers, but to members of the Order, and to all those who remember 'King Billy' on his white horse at the head of the parade. https://utorontopress.com/9781487591830/the-sash-canada-wore/ Riots in New Brunswick: Orange Nativism and Social Violence in the 1840s During the mid to late 1840s, dramatic riots shook the communities of Woodstock, Fredericton, and Saint John. Irish-Catholic immigrants fought Protestant Orangemen, with fists, club, and firearms. The violence resulted in death and destruction unprecedented in the British North American colonies. This book is the first serious historical treatment of the bloody riots and the tangled events that led to them. Scott See shows mid-century New Brunswick roughly awakened from the slumbering provincialism of its post-Loyalist phase by the stirrings of capitalism and by the tidal wave of Irish immigration that followed the potato famine. His main focus is the Loyal Orange Order, the anti-Catholic organization that clashed with the immigrants, many of them impoverished exiles. See presents an extraordinary profile of the Orange Order and concludes provocatively that it was a nativist organization similar to the xenophobic groups active at the time in the United States. Unlike other recent works on the Order, his book emphasizes the importance of the organization's specifically North American concerns, and questions the significance of its connections to Old World sectarianism. https://utorontopress.com/9781487580162/riots-in-new-brunswick/ lol the book in the related section is about the militant and right wing Ukrainian community, which seems to indicate Canada has made a practice of importing groups like this. I would have never connected the 19th century to 20th in that regard but I'll be damned, it makes a lot of sense. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 03:38 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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I remember my father and late mother arguing before about my grandfather being an Orange Man. When I asked him about it afterwards he told me that it was Canada’s equivalent to the KKK. I also vaguely remember talking to my grandfather and he talked about the social club he belonged to that would build stuff (like everyone pitch in to help build a barn for a member who had a fire) and stuff, so I don’t know.
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Marenghi posted:The Orange Order, they're the descendants of the English settlers and believe themselves to be racially superior to the Irish. They like to march while dressed in sashes and bowler hats. I don't know about have, present tense, but it was definitely a thing that spread into Canada in the past.
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Frosted Flake posted:I just thought they’d have country estates, go big game hunting and work on oil paintings in their leisure time not be Disney Adults and move to a central Florida suburb. You were correct to call these people middle class, at least in the traditional sense. They're the bourgeoisie not the aristocracy.
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Falstaff posted:I don't know about have, present tense, but it was definitely a thing that spread into Canada in the past. quote:One of the most prominent groups was the Ku Klux Klan of Kanada, whose main principles of white supremacy and nationalism required members to pledge that they were white, gentile, and Protestant. Organizers stated that the Ku Klux Klan was a Christian organization with "first allegiance to Canada and the Union Jack Seems the Canadian branch were more open about their allegiance to the Union Jack and their Unionist origins.
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gradenko_2000 posted:surely Ku Klux Klanada would have been better Too clever. You have to remember the kind of people we're dealing with here.
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