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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



i say swears online posted:

what's the fur market like in 2022 anyway? i don't think i've seen a fur coat for sale in a department store since the 90s

profits had been dropping for 5 years or so. for example, in 2019 each farm lost on average 100k usd

they basically lucked out majorly by getting massive damages

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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

Congratulations to the Social Democrats on their great victory. What do you mean, exterminating the mink?

They all had COVID and the fear was they'd breed a vaccine escape variant just as those were rolled out. They were culled en masse, buried, exhumed because they hadn't been buried deep enough and were popping out of the ground due to decomposition gasses, and could also contaminate the water table, then ultimately incinerated. Denmark was the largest producer of mink in the world, something like 13 million mink were culled. It was absolutely the right decision, but the expropriation was technically illegal.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

lol i was imagining a few thousand

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

SplitSoul posted:

13 million mink

:catstare:

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Correction: 15.5 million

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

re: the minimum wage stuff, the scandinavian labour movement has been extremely wary of anything which takes wages out of the bargaining table, for pretty good reason. they don't want people to have less of a reason to join a union, which transferring a good chunk of wage negotiations from the parties to the political scene would effectively do.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

V. Illych L. posted:

re: the minimum wage stuff, the scandinavian labour movement has been extremely wary of anything which takes wages out of the bargaining table, for pretty good reason. they don't want people to have less of a reason to join a union, which transferring a good chunk of wage negotiations from the parties to the political scene would effectively do.

Yes yes, but have you considered that the Nordic Model is dead?

Government is also abolishing the job centers apparently. I can't imagine how they'll come up with something even worse, but I'm confident they will, since they intend to cut spending by 3 billion kroner, or 1/4 of the budget allocated to employment. Also promising "more dignified" programs for long-term unemployed, which is amazing considering Mette Frederiksen is directly responsible for most of the misery in the first place, like people doing work ability assessment from a loving hospital bed and other atrocities.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

i say swears online posted:

what's the fur market like in 2022 anyway? i don't think i've seen a fur coat for sale in a department store since the 90s

Well mink prices have rebounded due to less supply!

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

SplitSoul posted:

Yes yes, but have you considered that the Nordic Model is dead?

Government is also abolishing the job centers apparently. I can't imagine how they'll come up with something even worse, but I'm confident they will, since they intend to cut spending by 3 billion kroner, or 1/4 of the budget allocated to employment. Also promising "more dignified" programs for long-term unemployed, which is amazing considering Mette Frederiksen is directly responsible for most of the misery in the first place, like people doing work ability assessment from a loving hospital bed and other atrocities.

They're just going to copy the UK model

We still have job centres but they exist not to get people jobs, but to torment and belittle them

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Regarde Aduck posted:

They're just going to copy the UK model

We still have job centres but they exist not to get people jobs, but to torment and belittle them

that is what we already do

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

They're literally calling the planned reforms "Welfare 2.0". :lmao:

Regarde Aduck posted:

They're just going to copy the UK model

We still have job centres but they exist not to get people jobs, but to torment and belittle them

What Carthag said. The hospital bed thing wasn't an exaggeration and has happened more than once. Do yours also hire doctors to supersede diagnoses by specialists? Do they also deny disability to people who've done heroin for decades, have brain abscesses, HIV, hep C, MRSA, severe anemia, brain damage, and tuberculosis (same individual)? How about forcing people into make-work who have just had surgery for their terminal brain cancer? We can probably match any horror story coming out of the UK.

SplitSoul has issued a correction as of 09:30 on Dec 15, 2022

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Denmark delenda est



For real though, Dutch politicians are increasingly looking to Denmark as an example to follow, for example in how you abuse asylum seekers.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

SplitSoul posted:

Yes yes, but have you considered that the Nordic Model is dead?

it's dying, but there's no reason to cheer at the prospect of it being completely euthanised

tambourine
Oct 11, 2021

Gripweed posted:

The Soviets killed all the nazis on their side of Germany.

Hahahahahahahahha no.

The DDR recruited literal SS people into their security apparatus, same as the other Germany, while the USSR hoovered up all the Nazi scientists that hadn't been taken by the US already.

But it sure is a convenient lie that one side cared more about the ideological background of their thugs and rocket scientists.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

what's the point of calling out one obviously untrue overgeneralization by just making up another

of course the DDR didn't execute every single former Nazi party member, but I don't know what to tell you if you think that means denazification in the DDR was identical to the BRD

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Slava regeringi

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Orange Devil posted:

Denmark delenda est



For real though, Dutch politicians are increasingly looking to Denmark as an example to follow, for example in how you abuse asylum seekers.
most progressive country in europe, evolving the most advanced forms of liberalism yet.

Carthag Tuek posted:

profits had been dropping for 5 years or so. for example, in 2019 each farm lost on average 100k usd

they basically lucked out majorly by getting massive damages
they were supposed to get 10 years of income as restitution, right? if this was done like it would be for poor people, they would have been ordered to pay a million each.

A Buttery Pastry has issued a correction as of 18:01 on Dec 15, 2022

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

webcams for christ posted:

what's the point of calling out one obviously untrue overgeneralization by just making up another

of course the DDR didn't execute every single former Nazi party member, but I don't know what to tell you if you think that means denazification in the DDR was identical to the BRD

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

wasn't there something going on where german intelligence /secret police were full of outright nazis that were going around murdering immigrants

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

mila kunis posted:

wasn't there something going on where german intelligence /secret police were full of outright nazis that were going around murdering immigrants

Yeah, but it's been nearly 15 years since they found any so I can only assume it's fine now.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

webcams for christ posted:

what's the point of calling out one obviously untrue overgeneralization by just making up another

of course the DDR didn't execute every single former Nazi party member, but I don't know what to tell you if you think that means denazification in the DDR was identical to the BRD

new account that regged just to post angrily in the ukraine war thread in/about cspam and occasional drivebys like this gem about mikhail gorbachev: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=4011110&pagenumber=3&perpage=40#post525993470

not sure which d&d poster's alt account it is but just post on your main bro

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
west germany literally had a former nazi as chancellor for a couple of years

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

SplitSoul posted:

As expected, the new Danish government will be powered by turbocharged neoliberalism. Massive tax cuts for the rich, abolition of a holiday (likely Great Prayer Day), probably further gutting of the welfare state TBD, but Mette Frederiksen avoids getting impeached for exterminating the mink, probably the only undeniably good thing she's done in her life. The last time the Social Democrats and the Liberals tried to govern together it lasted only 14 months, so here's hoping.

who the gently caress gets rid of a holiday. that's beyond evil

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

mila kunis posted:

new account that regged just to post angrily in the ukraine war thread in/about cspam and occasional drivebys like this gem about mikhail gorbachev: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=4011110&pagenumber=3&perpage=40#post525993470

not sure which d&d poster's alt account it is but just post on your main bro

lol what a loser

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

mila kunis posted:

who the gently caress gets rid of a holiday. that's beyond evil

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

man it sure sounds like these social dems are all center-right neo-liberal scum

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Broads rock.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

mila kunis posted:

who the gently caress gets rid of a holiday. that's beyond evil
the holiday they're removing is actually 9 holidays stuffed into a single day, so it is even more of an affront to god and men

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



imo we should keep it, and also add a holiday in the fall

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

At least having a cokehead as Minister of Culture is appropriate.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



also still lolling at vicestatsminister

what a bullshit title

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
i think it's important, being charged with maintaining an upkeepin the vice stats

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
im going to post inane emoji

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



paul_soccer12 posted:

im going to post inane emoji

:justpost:

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
:2bong:

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

V. Illych L. posted:

it's dying, but there's no reason to cheer at the prospect of it being completely euthanised

Maoism - third worldism, the objectively correct position, would disagree I suppose.

tambourine posted:

Hahahahahahahahha no.

The DDR recruited literal SS people into their security apparatus, same as the other Germany, while the USSR hoovered up all the Nazi scientists that hadn't been taken by the US already.

But it sure is a convenient lie that one side cared more about the ideological background of their thugs and rocket scientists.

I believe one of the primary differences was that Warsaw Pact countries typically didn't include former Nazis in high ranking positions.
e: oh you're the Gorbachev fan boy lol.

Weka has issued a correction as of 22:18 on Dec 15, 2022

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

V. Illych L. posted:

it's dying, but there's no reason to cheer at the prospect of it being completely euthanised

We should ask teachers and nurses about its status.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
Whatever else I might think of the shambling corpse that is nordic social democracy

Weka posted:

Maoism - third worldism, the objectively correct position

No.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

love this guys weird graphics and photos. Rare to find someone who does the effort.
https://twitter.com/gunterfehlinger/status/1603446591091777536
https://twitter.com/gunterfehlinger/status/1603343681506852865?s=46
https://twitter.com/gunterfehlinger/status/1603164714078461954?s=46

what a character. do you think is he naturally like this?

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/antonyaolarsson/status/1603398825745715200?s=20&t=ogRYMLmy3SSP0oqkDpwubw
https://twitter.com/antonyaolarsson/status/1603474119638585359?s=20&t=ogRYMLmy3SSP0oqkDpwubw

Solidarity with the chimps

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