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Diephoon posted:Keep in mind that a Vet gets +50% ranged damage for pressing F and it has a really low cooldown. It also can have a really high uptime and give you even more damage depending on which level 30 feat you take. Your gun can roll + damage to specific types too. +20% flak damage does a lot of work against shooters, for instance. I just bought one for my vet so I'll give it a try. Still, it almost sounds like 'yet another reason vet is better than psycher'. I'm surprised I didn't see more buffs to non-voidstrike staffs.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:08 |
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Not being able to skip the intro videos and screen before was bad enough. Now you have to hold space to skip the video, lol.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:10 |
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I haven't seen any of the new weapons on my zealot or ogyrn in the shops. I'm really hating the inability to craft weapons right now
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:14 |
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Angry_Ed posted:I mean, weird change but VT2 does the same thing. It's just funny that the complaint was having to push two different buttons to bypass the intro videos so they made it the same button but you have to hold the first one which makes it weirdly inconvenient in a different way. Also does VT2 make you skip another screen after skipping the intro before it actually loads into the game (which also takes an unusually long amount of time)?
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Angry_Ed posted:I mean, weird change but VT2 does the same thing. At least in VT2 you could use a mod to skip the videos.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:20 |
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Estel posted:At least in VT2 you could use a mod to skip the videos. Can you delete the video file in your hdd? Some games will skip the video if it can't be found (others will crash, so i'ts a question of knowing which of the two). Is the update on gamepass to or only steam for now?
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:21 |
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VT2 also takes too long from launch to gameplay but that's not an excuse for Darktide to do it. I don't think they did it for verisimilitude but the change is so baffling that I wouldn't be surprised if that's it
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:23 |
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Often not being able to skip intros is part of the contract they sign with those companies. So it's possible they got told off by one of them so changed it.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:23 |
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Lol
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:24 |
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Nice
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:24 |
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Fatshark playing 5d chess to get us to see the new settings toggle
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:24 |
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Oh poo poo, I think "Player Outlines" might be new too? I remember wanting a "teammates always have outline" option like VT2 and didn't see it there before. edit: Oh yeah this is definitely new explosivo fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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drat Dirty Ape posted:I just bought one for my vet so I'll give it a try. Still, it almost sounds like 'yet another reason vet is better than psycher'. I'm surprised I didn't see more buffs to non-voidstrike staffs. Probably because other than possibly Trauma, they really don't need them. Voidstrike stands out because it can do it's job the moment you get one even with middling rolls, but then you end up with a Purgation staff with high rolls and realize the limitations of Voidstrike in 4+, and how the only thing it really brings to the table compared to flames is the ability to suppress packs at a distance. Which is good, but not as good as you might think. Meanwhile Surge, while abysmal against hordes, is excellent against everything else and brings a level of control over high threat targets that you literally can't get with any other weapon in the entire game. I have a near-perfect Voidstrike staff and I barely ever use it, because it's also the staff with the least hard carry potential when poo poo really hits the fan and the choices you've made matter. Don't make the mistake of trying to run purgation with the abysmally bad soulblaze feats though.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:30 |
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!Klams posted:I mean, this right here, is honestly the biggest perk on any gun I've had so far. Having played my Vet to 30 now both in pubs and with goons, this doesn't hold true at all- every motherfucker regardless of being Ogryn or Human sized will jump on front of you as you line up an important killshot during volley fire on a sniper or bomber or something just so they can shoot at the horde or melee that one pox walker that got ahead of the pack. Yes, even if I'm standing off to the side lol.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:35 |
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Zealot with braced autogun's got this handled, dont worry.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:36 |
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My big pet peeve is people strafing back and forth in place as if they are in melee, while we're in a firing line. There are no enemies nearby and virtually no return fire, why are you dodging back and forth directly in front of us while magdumping and missing half your shots? Also annoying are people who sprint around the combat arena during lulls, not to search for items or anything, but just because the idea of spending 5 seconds standing still and waiting for the next wave is abhorrent. So unless I also sprint with them along whatever random direction their drug-addled brains choose, I'll be out of coherency
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Does plasma gun shoot through allies. My recent experience playing a vet suggests that if I want to hit anything, rather than just hit my ogryns back, that the ability to "pierce" allies is very valuableHra Mormo posted:
Yeah this. The clutch ability to zap a mutant or dog out of the air, or easily stagger multiple ragers, is so good on surge, I have trouble using anything else terrorist ambulance fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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big cummers ONLY posted:My big pet peeve is people strafing back and forth in place as if they are in melee, while we're in a firing line. There are no enemies nearby and virtually no return fire, why are you dodging back and forth directly in front of us while magdumping and missing half your shots? Running at an angle to enemies makes them miss as I recall, there's some reason to move while returning fire
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Hra Mormo posted:Probably because other than possibly Trauma, they really don't need them. Voidstrike stands out because it can do it's job the moment you get one even with middling rolls, but then you end up with a Purgation staff with high rolls and realize the limitations of Voidstrike in 4+, and how the only thing it really brings to the table compared to flames is the ability to suppress packs at a distance. Which is good, but not as good as you might think. I just made a really fun voidstrike that kills all horde type enemies in t4 with a big aoe and extra damage, while supressing enemy shooters around you. I just wish I could get the quell perk on it too, but maybe one day.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:46 |
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Rerolling perks costs less the more times you do it, which is odd but kind of nice that the price doesn't go up with repeated attempts.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:48 |
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terrorist ambulance posted:Does plasma gun shoot through allies. My recent experience playing a vet suggests that if I want to hit anything, rather than just hit my ogryns back, that the ability to "pierce" allies is very valuable If it doesn't you can also reposition. Annoying but if VT2 is any indication, you are never going to stop encountering teammates with whatever fungal infection makes you want to stand in the line of fire terrorist ambulance posted:Running at an angle to enemies makes them miss as I recall, there's some reason to move while returning fire I specify "virtually no return fire" in my example. Like the amount of return fire where you will take less damage if you just stand still and line up your kill shot vs having a seizure and executing a ten-foot stretch of wall big cummers ONLY fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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explosivo posted:Rerolling perks costs less the more times you do it, which is odd but kind of nice that the price doesn't go up with repeated attempts. Yeah, when I saw that note in the community update I was pleasantly surprised. At least there's slightly more forgiving.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:49 |
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Admittedly my psycher is only level 20 now so maybe high level staff rolls will change my mind. At the moment though, voidstrike definitely seems far more effective than the others.
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I think having played Ogryn first has given me extreme patience when it comes to people getting in my way while shooting as a Veteran. poo poo's going to happen, it's usually not possible to be out of everybody's way at the same time, I just move over slightly and keep firing if my view gets blocked or someone's in the way. At least that means I know there's a body between me and the enemies.
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terrorist ambulance posted:Yeah this. The clutch ability to zap a mutant or dog out of the air, or easily stagger multiple ragers, is so good on surge, I have trouble using anything else I just blap dogs at range with the psychic grenade from the voidstrike. Stagger and a hefty bit of damage. Ditto explodey boys. The only thing the voidstrike doesn't work on that would be handy is mutants.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 16:58 |
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big cummers ONLY posted:My big pet peeve is people strafing back and forth in place as if they are in melee, while we're in a firing line. There are no enemies nearby and virtually no return fire, why are you dodging back and forth directly in front of us while magdumping and missing half your shots? The latter half of both paragraphs is kinda weird and aggressive but I can at least answer the first one: learned habits from faster paced PvP FPS games like Apex, speaking from personal experience. I actually stopped using the Camo feat on my Vet because I'm so used to A-D strafing from Apex that it's muscle memory at this point and basically get no benefit from the feat unless I'm actively thinking about using it which is not happening during hordes or shoot outs lol. Sounds like a bad player if they're mag dumping and missing shots, especially on a horde tho.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 17:03 |
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purgatus staff isn’t bad, per se, but its weakness is the same as a flamer on a zealot where you can’t hit anything beyond spitting distance. in theory you could brain burst to make up for it, but brain burst itself isn’t that great. meanwhile with voidstrike you’ve got horde clearing AND range. maybe purgatus edges it out in total horde clear potential but it just doesn’t make up for voidstrike’s all in one package imho
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Cowcaster posted:purgatus staff isn’t bad, per se, but its weakness is the same as a flamer on a zealot where you can’t hit anything beyond spitting distance. in theory you could brain burst to make up for it, but brain burst itself isn’t that great. meanwhile with voidstrike you’ve got horde clearing AND range. maybe purgatus edges it out in total horde clear potential but it just doesn’t make up for voidstrike’s all in one package imho It also doesn't help that I have a hard time gauging the actual range of the purgatus primary fire and apparently there was a bug on the secondary where if you short charged it it just whiffed? I was suspicious that was the case but thought i was making excuses for being bad.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 17:11 |
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Turin Turambar posted:Can you delete the video file in your hdd? Some games will skip the video if it can't be found (others will crash, so i'ts a question of knowing which of the two). It’s on gamepass
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terrorist ambulance posted:Does plasma gun shoot through allies. My recent experience playing a vet suggests that if I want to hit anything, rather than just hit my ogryns back, that the ability to "pierce" allies is very valuable It does. You can happily set up shop behind your favorite meatwad and hit volleyfire to delete all the glowies shooting through them.
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big cummers ONLY posted:My big pet peeve is people strafing back and forth in place as if they are in melee, while we're in a firing line. There are no enemies nearby and virtually no return fire, why are you dodging back and forth directly in front of us while magdumping and missing half your shots? Both of these can be answered with the idea of avoiding being stabbed in the butt. Can't get stabbed in butt if I'm dancing while firing. Can't stab me in the butt if I'm speedrunning through the level and mowing everything in front of me!
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Internet Explorer posted:Yeah, when I saw that note in the community update I I legitimately thought they'd made a mistake with that note. Drakes posted:Both of these can be answered with the idea of avoiding being stabbed in the butt. Also years of FPS's have taught people to pretty much always be strafing.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 17:29 |
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If you're able to play now and thirsting for the new weapons/map it sounds like they're not added yet but should be later because it's a backend switch or something. A lot of pissed off comments already out there about "WHERE'S THE NEW WEAPONS FATSHARK" and people pissed about the hold space to skip thing that haven't discovered the option to disable it yet.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 17:29 |
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not so much with shooting but you also can really extend the range of wide horizontal sweeps with a melee weapon by shaking that booty
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 17:30 |
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I realize they probably have other priorities, but I'm surprised there's nothing new in the cash shop.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 17:32 |
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terrorist ambulance posted:Does plasma gun shoot through allies. My recent experience playing a vet suggests that if I want to hit anything, rather than just hit my ogryns back, that the ability to "pierce" allies is very valuable Yes it does. Yes it does.
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# ? Dec 15, 2022 17:32 |
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Is there any indication of what level the new weapons are unlocked at? I've only been playing a couple sessions per week with friends so I'm pretty behind. Don't want to log in to keep checking the shop for no reason.
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Vargs posted:Is there any indication of what level the new weapons are unlocked at? I've only been playing a couple sessions per week with friends so I'm pretty behind. Don't want to log in to keep checking the shop for no reason. explosivo posted:If you're able to play now and thirsting for the new weapons/map it sounds like they're not added yet but should be later because it's a backend switch or something. A lot of pissed off comments already out there about "WHERE'S THE NEW WEAPONS FATSHARK" and people pissed about the hold space to skip thing that haven't discovered the option to disable it yet.
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^^ I don't think we know what class level you need to be to unlock them yet tho
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