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How does Mastadon work? Are there like private rooms and public room? Snipe: May your holidays be filled with happiness!
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if you want to post with and alongside goons, may i recommend forums.somethingawful.com?
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lobster shirt posted:if you want to post with and alongside goons, may i recommend forums.somethingawful.com? That poo poo heap? 
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Dec 17, 2022 03:14
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Ither posted:How does Mastadon work? Are there like private rooms and public room? Kind of. It’s a network of multiple servers which replicate content to each other. Like, imagine if Twitter US and Twitter EU were completely different sites, but you could still see all the tweets on each one There can be private mastodons that don’t connect to any others and also public ones that connect to as many others as possible. There is no one “mastodon”, although one network might emerge as the preferred network for most users in the future The experience of making and reading toots is almost identical to twitter, you just have to pay a little more attention to account profiles to figure out who’s associated with who
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Dec 17, 2022 03:21
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https://twitter.com/br4s1d4s/status/1603784852033048576 I think Elon Musk might be a dumbass.
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Dec 17, 2022 05:13
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haveblue posted:Kind of. It’s a network of multiple servers which replicate content to each other. Like, imagine if Twitter US and Twitter EU were completely different sites, but you could still see all the tweets on each one This sounds like Usenet as an app.
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Cabbit posted:https://twitter.com/br4s1d4s/status/1603784852033048576 Elon is going to tell his pilot to turn off his plane's transponder from now on thinking it will instantly make it invisible and untraceable.
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Dec 17, 2022 07:51
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Old James posted:This sounds like Usenet as an app. Yeah, that seems pretty accurate. The big difference is it’s organized by user rather than by topic
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Dec 17, 2022 07:54
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He's already reversed at least some of the journalist bans and turned Spaces back on. $44B to be a forum admin.
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Dec 17, 2022 12:24
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Dick Trauma posted:He's already reversed at least some of the journalist bans and turned Spaces back on. $44B to be a forum admin. 
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Dec 17, 2022 13:15
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Dick Trauma posted:He's already reversed at least some of the journalist bans and turned Spaces back on. $44B to be a forum admin. The reversals were in light of the second poll (unban now vs 7 days), which he lost on a 60-40 split. He bitched passive-aggressively the whole time, and posted "doxx populi, doxx dei" before deleting it when he got called out on stealing the joke that a bunch of other people had made. Feels a bit like a running theme in his life that he'd rather delete a post than give someone else credit for anything. The damage was done when the journalists were banned in the first place. Can't wait to see if anything comes from the other stupid things he did during his latest tantrum. Guess I'll go see if I can link to Mastodon yet.
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Dec 17, 2022 15:37
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That Italian Guy posted:Meanwhile: 
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Teratrain posted:The reversals were in light of the second poll (unban now vs 7 days), which he lost on a 60-40 split. He bitched passive-aggressively the whole time, and posted "doxx populi, doxx dei" before deleting it when he got called out on stealing the joke that a bunch of other people had made. I got started with Mastodon after he bought Twitter and I don't regret it. I used the Fedifinder tool to help me find people I follow on Mastodon and also just to export my whole following list.
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Dec 17, 2022 15:58
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whydirt posted:I think the biggest obstacle for Mastodon is the lack of widespread embedding features. You need ways to broadcast toots (lol) easily to people outside the ecosystem.
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This Is the Zodiac posted:I know nothing about Mastodon. Please tell me they're not literally called toots. Hbomberguy offered to give the founder $500 or something in exchange for irrevocably naming them toots, and the guy agreed.
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Dec 17, 2022 17:20
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Toots is a great name. Most people are just smelling their farts anyway. You should have to get special approval to call them tweets. Otherwise you can keep tooting into the abyss like everyone else.
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Dec 17, 2022 17:40
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haveblue posted:Kind of. It’s a network of multiple servers which replicate content to each other. Like, imagine if Twitter US and Twitter EU were completely different sites, but you could still see all the tweets on each one This is extremely reductive (and therefore inaccurate) simplification on my part, but I always imagine (and describe to friends) that Mastodon is like Twitter-meets-Discord. Posts are still publicly visible like Twitter (usually anyway) but distributed among different instances that each have their own admins, moderation policies, etc. Mastodon.social seems to be emerging as the 'default' instance that non-techie Twitter exiles migrate to, but all of the nerdier accounts I follow have migrated to other instances. The notion that's come up of major news orgs running their own Mastodon instances is honestly a great idea. After the journalist bans this week I'd be surprised if at least a few aren't working on those as a failsafe.
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Dec 17, 2022 17:43
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There's also an optional switch to just have them be posts if that's your speed.
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I don't think Mastodon's structure will ever support it being a complete replacement for a network like Twitter - that was doomed in the public eye as soon as the sign up process became more involved than just registering an account and finding your nearest trans person to verbally abuse. I'm one of those tech / FOSS weirdos in their target market though so I'm happy enough. 
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I AM GRANDO posted:Hbomberguy offered to give the founder $500 or something in exchange for irrevocably naming them toots, and the guy agreed.
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Dec 17, 2022 18:47
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Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/iboudreau/status/1604122998025646081?s=20&t=nPguV0d23wX89xNCPBytzQ To be fair this is probably better than just letting the FBI decide
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Certainly such a system could never be exploited by a small organized group.
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Elon doesn’t care about advertisers or profitability. This is a 2024 political project against Joe Biden.
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I think he does care about those things, he just also cares about the political angle, and he cares about fulfilling his desperate need for attention, and he cares about being successful, and and and. He cares about a lot of stuff, he just doesn't care about any of those things in a coherent or dedicated enough way to prioritize and stop undercutting his profitability with his political ambitions one minute, and undercutting his political ambitions with his desperate need for personal attention the next.
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Teratrain posted:I don't think Mastodon's structure will ever support it being a complete replacement for a network like Twitter - that was doomed in the public eye as soon as the sign up process became more involved than just registering an account and finding your nearest trans person to verbally abuse. I get that you joke, but yeah? The appealing thing about Twitter is that you signed up and you were on Twitter. All the Twitter, all at once. You try signing up for Mastodon and you're asked to pigeon hole yourself out of the gate. If you don't already know the answers from the get-go, a lot of questions are going to leaping to mind. Am I just going to see *this* content if I join here. If I am have some friends go to one server and some friends go to another, will we be able to see each other's stuff? Are these listed by popularity? What's Yuru and why should I go there? If I'm not a furry, why would I want to join the furry site? I don't work in primary care I guess that's not for me. Which one is the general one for me, I don't want anything that specific. Are each of these places is going to have a different standard of moderation? Some of those questions have easier answers than others. If my mother wants to use Twitter, she can. She will need someone to talk her through Mastodon. Let's see my first couple of recommendations: toot.funami.tech General-purpose standard Mastodon server run by YuruVerse / YuruVerse에 의해 운영되는 일반 마스토돈 인스턴스 computerfairi.es Computer Fairies is a Mastodon instance that aims to be as queer, friendly and furry as possible. We welcome all kinds of computer fairies! tooting.ch A server provided by the FairSocialNet association primarycare.app A mastodon server intended for those who work in Primary Care and their friends. Hosted by iatro.health for the good of the community. social.bau-ha.us Small server provided by Maschinenraum Weimar social.vivaldi.net Vivaldi Social is an open discussion hub, hosted by the makers of Vivaldi Browser, supporting federated social media for members of the Vivaldi Community & beyond. If I didn't know anything about Mastodon and was trying to get my feet wet, I would take one look at the list of servers and immediate conclude this is not the platform for me.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Certainly such a system could never be exploited by a small organized group. Oh poo poo, you're right, the FBI will probably still exploit it. drat.
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Dick Trauma posted:He's already reversed at least some of the journalist bans and turned Spaces back on. $44B to be a forum admin. That Italian Guy posted:Meanwhile: $44B and counting We haven't even hit the first lawsuit yet.
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Mzbundifund posted:I think he does care about those things, he just also cares about the political angle, and he cares about fulfilling his desperate need for attention, and he cares about being successful, and and and. He cares about a lot of stuff, he just doesn't care about any of those things in a coherent or dedicated enough way to prioritize and stop undercutting his profitability with his political ambitions one minute, and undercutting his political ambitions with his desperate need for personal attention the next. I think it's also about putting on the appearance of competence and having a plan. Right wing grift is often where narcissists start moving towards for that kind of attention when it's clear that they've failed.
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pesty13480 posted:If I didn't know anything about Mastodon and was trying to get my feet wet, I would take one look at the list of servers and immediate conclude this is not the platform for me. Mastodon has definitely been thrust into a spotlight it's not ready for, but I could see these problems resolving themselves over time if one federation emerges as "the" Mastodon. Someone could make a thin frontend for it with a friendly flow that handles the process of getting signups and delegating them to instances, and that would be the entry point that gets advertised and shared. Instances would under this model be less about community identity and more about load balancing- you wouldn't join "the furry Mastodon", you'd join "charitablebrand27.mastodon.social" haveblue fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Dec 17, 2022 |
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pesty13480 posted:I get that you joke, but yeah? The appealing thing about Twitter is that you signed up and you were on Twitter. All the Twitter, all at once. You try signing up for Mastodon and you're asked to pigeon hole yourself out of the gate. If you don't already know the answers from the get-go, a lot of questions are going to leaping to mind. Am I just going to see *this* content if I join here. I wrapped it in snark but yeah, I wasn't joking. Twitter got big because it was a place where you could touch the previously celestial celebrities with no prerequisite decisions or critical thought. (I mean... scroll down a bit in any big celeb post and tell me those people would be capable of choosing a server, even if the choices were immaculately curated and presented)
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haveblue posted:Mastodon has definitely been thrust into a spotlight it's not ready for, but I could see these problems resolving themselves over time if one federation emerges as "the" Mastodon. Someone could make a thin frontend for it with a friendly flow that handles the process of getting signups and delegating them to instances, and that would be the entry point that gets advertised and shared. Instances would under this model be less about community identity and more about load balancing- you wouldn't join "the furry Mastodon", you'd join "charitablebrand27.mastodon.social" A huge thing Mastodon's got going for it at the moment is that out of all the potential microblogging contenders that have been getting the media spotlight, it's more or less the only one that's out of beta (or probably even past v1.0), so once you pick your home base you can get rolling in a hurry. I signed up for a Cohost account and finally got approved for posting privileges earlier this week, one month into my "two day waiting period".
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I want to like Mastodon, but for the average person the structure is too confusing. It will never have the critical mass that Bird Site had. Post could get close, as it's the most Tw*tter like of the alternatives, but they are going to have to move quickly to seize the moment. However, I haven't seen any indication yet that Post will be able to ramp up that quickly.
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Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/iboudreau/status/1604122998025646081?s=20&t=nPguV0d23wX89xNCPBytzQ The answer to this is to premptively block every paid twitter blue user before they can block you.
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xerxus posted:The answer to this is to premptively block every paid twitter blue user before they can block you. Nah, this is about the algorithm. It means a like from a verified users is more "powerful" in terms of choosing which tweets to surface in searches and timelines, and a block from a verified user is the same way with a negative effect. It's just going to make all of Twitter look more like Musk's personal feed of garbage from garbage people
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That's gonna make for some interesting reading given that the recent list showed that the most populous checkmark subs were Musk toadies, fascists and pornstars.
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Teratrain posted:the recent list showed that the most populous checkmark subs were ... pornstars. Where did you find this list?
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oliveoil posted:Where did you find this list? Check Travis Brown's recent threads: https://twitter.com/travisbrown/status/1603729018997678081 He found a few thousand more today so adjust accordingly.
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Awesome. Thanks!
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Okay, I don't know how much time you've spent looking at that list but the third entry is the best account I could find.
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