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Now that I think about it, it’s been a while since I saw Maff on IWTV. No big loss.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Dan Maff isn't a draw regardless of whether or not he's a sex pest We have data that supports HoG sold less tix by booking Dan Maff but no data they sold more tix by booking Dan Maff. Reminds me how I pass on Circle 6 shows because they book Zachary Wentz.
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Friend if you mention QT Marshall he will quote tweet you too! https://twitter.com/ALeavelle/status/1604599145414664193
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Dec 19, 2022 11:26
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Emi Sakura finally gets on TV to show off her new belt.
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I like the idea of AEW as a host league for other promotions to guest in and defend their titles on occasion. But the OP is correct about AEW/ROH having too many of its own titles floating around.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:I like the idea of AEW as a host league for other promotions to guest in and defend their titles on occasion. But the OP is correct about AEW/ROH having too many of its own titles floating around. I will bet you $50 that belt will never be on AEW television.
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click-saver: (It's Cornette) “Does anybody else see that it is coincidental or just amazing how this worked out? That Chris Jericho got to defend the ROH World Championship against and defeat in the middle of the ring a different former champion of some description every week on TV for six or eight weeks. On National cable television on TBS with, at least by their standards, a lot of people watching anywhere from 750-900,000 give or take. But when it comes time to drop it, oh I’ll be happy to drop that title to Claudio on a f*cking Ring of Honor secondary pay-per-view that may not be seen by 75,000 people much less 750,000.” 
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Bandido has a contract because of that run. There's some speculation that Dalton may have landed an AEW contract as well (rather than ROH). Colt "Boom Boom" Cabana was on TV for the first time in a year or more. But yes, Jericho is burying talent.
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Dec 19, 2022 13:40
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i've heard a lot of disingenuous poo poo but title defenses on a ppv being less important than ones on weekly tv is a good one
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Kennel posted:click-saver: (It's Cornette) Does he think fans are just going to think the title disappeared or something? And this is especially galaxy-brained given that Jericho proceeded to lose on Dynamite to Action Andretti. So what's his argument there?
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Kosmo Gallion posted:I like the idea of AEW as a host league for other promotions to guest in and defend their titles on occasion. But the OP is correct about AEW/ROH having too many of its own titles floating around. True but it would be cool to have Deadlock Pro Wrestling and maybe even New Legacy mentioned on Dark or Elevation.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:I like the idea of AEW as a host league for other promotions to guest in and defend their titles on occasion. But the OP is correct about AEW/ROH having too many of its own titles floating around. Even if that title appeared on AEW (highly unlikely considering it's Emi holding it), AEW has 7 titles (plus FTW) and ROH has 6, and they're still working on getting ROH off of AEW TV, so I'm not really sure that you could cut titles down a lot. You've got World - Tag - Trios and Women's World for your "main" ones, then TNT - TBS for your TV ones and All-Atlantic as the more "open" one, with PAC defending it in the UK (and it wouldn't make sense for someone who can't be on TNT to get the TNT title). I guess they were fine before the Trios title, but why not have a prize for three-person teams?
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bartok posted:True but it would be cool to have Deadlock Pro Wrestling and maybe even New Legacy mentioned on Dark or Elevation. Pulse was on Dark he won a game thing and booked a match https://youtu.be/NjgFS7qCIhg
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Suplex Liberace posted:Pulse was on Dark he won a game thing and booked a match https://youtu.be/NjgFS7qCIhg Still gutted that Jawney didn’t win. Cutler/Luther hair vs hair (loser has to grow it out for a year) wasn’t such a great idea
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I will accuse Jericho of dragging an angle out to infinity, but burials feel rare to me. Maybe I'm talking out of my rear end?
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If Jericho had lost the title on Dynamite instead of an ROH PPV, then Cornette would be complaining about that instead. There's literally no winning the argument because he actually doesn't have an opinion except "whatever TK does is bad".
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There used to be complaints of people losing on ppv but getting their win back on the higher viewed tv show the following night, but that isn’t what’s going on here.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:There used to be complaints of people losing on ppv but getting their win back on the higher viewed tv show the following night, but that isn’t what’s going on here. The big complaint was wrestlers who would get the PPV win (especially Wrestlemania) and then return the job on TV knowing it would seem like a favor but in reality no one remembers the TV match but people remember the PPV match.
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I too wish I had a hot tub that smells like nuts and butts, watch very little wrestling but have time to bloviate endlessly about it.
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Shinjobi posted:I will accuse Jericho of dragging an angle out to infinity, but burials feel rare to me. Maybe I'm talking out of my rear end? I’d go a step further and say Jericho books angles primarily around himself so even losses feed his character. Which isn’t a bad thing but often feels one sided. But no I don’t think he buries people. In fact I think the fact that he doesn’t is probably why no one seems to come away annoyed by Jerichos self indulgence or whatever. He’s leaving the other guy generally in a better spot than when he found him.
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"The main roster" lol
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mooseinfants posted:MJF would probably smoke most everyone in WWE in a promo battle, but I don't actually know for sure because WWE doesn't really do them anymore so I don't know how well most of those people would hold up. I think Becky or Sami could probably hang. I'd pay money to see Ronda melt against him though.
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MJF would lose to Killer Kross in a promo off because MJF looks like a poorly tanned creep, and Killer Kross is jacked, and has a hot wife by his side. It's the Freakzilla principal. The numbers don't lie
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Malcolm Excellent posted:MJF would lose to Killer Kross in a promo off because MJF looks like a poorly tanned creep, and Killer Kross is jacked, and has a hot wife by his side. Kross got merked by Adam Cole so bad that people post the clip to Twitter at least once a week. And he is even less jacked and even more poorly tanned
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Serperoth posted:Even if that title appeared on AEW (highly unlikely considering it's Emi holding it), AEW has 7 titles (plus FTW) and ROH has 6, and they're still working on getting ROH off of AEW TV, so I'm not really sure that you could cut titles down a lot. You've got World - Tag - Trios and Women's World for your "main" ones, then TNT - TBS for your TV ones and All-Atlantic as the more "open" one, with PAC defending it in the UK (and it wouldn't make sense for someone who can't be on TNT to get the TNT title). I guess they were fine before the Trios title, but why not have a prize for three-person teams? When/if the ROH belts get separated it pretty much fixes the problem. I thought the Atlantic belt was going to go off on adventures overseas and we'd rarely see it but if that's not the case they should get rid of that one too. Two men, two women, tag, and trios sounds great to me.
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Give me more championship. I want an AEW Women's World Tag Team title. And I want championships that are solely defended on Dark and Elevation.
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I like all the belts because they're cool and I like it when a wrestler goes "you want this? Come and take it" so more chances for that is good. OC rolling into the ring with the All Atlantic title looks really cool so thank you All Atlantic title
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1glitch0 posted:When/if the ROH belts get separated it pretty much fixes the problem. I thought the Atlantic belt was going to go off on adventures overseas and we'd rarely see it but if that's not the case they should get rid of that one too. I've wondered lately if the Atlantic belt exists because the TNT belt got tied up somehow and they wanted a belt for guys like OC and Pac to fight over.
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The Atlantic belt exists because a tv executive suggested it and Tony Khan said "wow what a great idea!"
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Mr. Squishy posted:The Atlantic belt exists because a tv executive suggested it and Tony Khan said "wow what a great idea!" Plus, it gave us Clark Connors getting over with the crowd. Which was only maybe the 4th or 5th weirdest thing about Forbidden Door (in a good way)
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I'm impressed at just how quickly the All Atlantic title stopped being a title that tours and is defended in other countries when that was the whole reason it was created lol I'm happy that OC has it though and his run so far has been great
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It makes sense when you consider that they probably did not intend to have PAC working in the US as much as he has been.
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Also where would they take it? I don't even mean that as a joke, I'm just really blanking on international promotions it would make sense to take the belt to and run defenses in.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Also where would they take it? I don't even mean that as a joke, I'm just really blanking on international promotions it would make sense to take the belt to and run defenses in. PAC was doing defenses in RevPro and OTT in Ireland.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Also where would they take it? I don't even mean that as a joke, I'm just really blanking on international promotions it would make sense to take the belt to and run defenses in. There are like 800 promotions in Japan. They have a relationship with DDT. Have OC fly to Japan and wrestle Takeshita in a single light tube deathmatch or a LEGO ladder match or gently caress it have him defend against Onita in some kind of hilarious explosion match
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Pylons posted:PAC was doing defenses in RevPro and OTT in Ireland. I know but that was 3 whole matches back in July. My point being it doesn't seem like there are a lot of promotions where you can send someone who is at the level to hold the title to regularly defend it outside the company that you wouldn't just be better off having them wrestle on your weekly TV show. The matches would be really cool, would love to see OC in DDT, but from AEW's perspective I can see the problem of their not actually being a lot of places you want to send someone to defend the title.
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