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Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Inspecting your entire deck after a game to make sure no stickers are still on them would be pretty sucky. Getting a game loss a couple of matches later because it turns out you missed one would suck even more.

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
lol have you played with stickers? they end up all over the place anyway, they stuck better when you didn't want them to than when you did. stickers is more "should-be-digital" than conjuring a basic land.

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 14 minutes!
it's the first day of hannukah and the mtg arena store has 70% a bunch of display styles for cards with "light" or "candle" in the name :3:

also I just pulled a copy of Urza's Saga from the list slot in this brother's war set booster box!

Mezzanon
Sep 16, 2003

Pillbug
gently caress I have to learn standard for the RC in Vancouver in March.

Is there a mono blue tempo deck?

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 14 minutes!

Mezzanon posted:

gently caress I have to learn standard for the RC in Vancouver in March.

Is there a mono blue tempo deck?

There is but not sure how strong it is. Delver, Tolarian serpent etc

Algid
Oct 10, 2007


Mezzanon posted:

gently caress I have to learn standard for the RC in Vancouver in March.

Is there a mono blue tempo deck?

There is. It's main creatures are djinn and tolarian terror though so it's sort of the biggest graveyard deck in standard, to the point that a turn 2 hearse from the sideboard is almost game over (as long as they don't do something stupid like actually crew it for you to bounce).

It is very cheap though since djinn is the only 4x rare, then you have a single otwara and maybe a single swirling mist.

Something like this: https://aetherhub.com/Metagame/Trad...onstructed_meta

I have more counterspells instead of delver though.

Algid fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Dec 19, 2022

Mezzanon
Sep 16, 2003

Pillbug
Alright that list looks great and significantly better than what I was brewing
(Delver, bird lawyer, suspicious stowaway, that drake that draws a card when targeted, plus 24 counterspells/protection spells/combat research)

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Algid posted:

There is. It's main creatures are djinn and tolarian terror though so it's sort of the biggest graveyard deck in standard, to the point that a turn 2 hearse from the sideboard is almost game over (as long as they don't do something stupid like actually crew it for you to bounce).

It is very cheap though since djinn is the only 4x rare, then you have a single otwara and maybe a single swirling mist.

Something like this: https://aetherhub.com/Metagame/Trad...onstructed_meta

I have more counterspells instead of delver though.

drat this deck might get me to play standard for the first time in years. Cheap and fun mono blue is right up my alley.

Yoked
Apr 3, 2007


I’m qualified for San Diego and wasn’t sure about the format but I’ve been having fun in standard. I think there’s some effort now from MTGO grinders to actually innovate. This past weekend’s challenges had much more variety. Maybe it’s temporary but cool to see there’s room for some decks that aren’t black midrange piles, even if that’s what I’ve been playing on Arena.

wei
Jul 27, 2006
I've been enjoying it too, despite about half the field being Grixis midrange (I like the mirrors) in my LGS and Arena. I think Standard is not close to being solved yet, and we'll have ONE in February to shake things up before the RCs.

Papa Was A Video Toaster
Jan 9, 2011





Mezzanon posted:

gently caress I have to learn standard for the RC in Vancouver in March.

Is there a mono blue tempo deck?

What's an RC? Regional Championship?

Solis
Feb 2, 2011

Now you can take this knowledge and turn it into part of yourself.

Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:

What's an RC? Regional Championship?

Got it in one.

Crap I need to learn the standard archetypes if I'm going to floor judge next RC

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
RC is cute, the real competitive Magic happens in the underground. All Ante, no judges, no rules, no conceding.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
I didn't see this mentioned last week with all the Phyrexia set spoilers, but March of the Machine will be a test of Hearthstone's mini set model. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-of-the-machine-arrives-in-2023

March of the Machine :Aftermath will be a standard legal 'microset' releasing with 6 card Collector's Pack or 5 Card Epilogue boosters.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

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reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
I think it would've owned if all the loving angels cards in the "wow the angels are gone from this plane what's up with that" had been in an aftermath set instead of mixed into the set combined with a story that did a really bad job of explain "angels are back now", actually, so I think "X: aftermath" is a great move.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

reignonyourparade posted:

I think it would've owned if all the loving angels cards in the "wow the angels are gone from this plane what's up with that" had been in an aftermath set instead of mixed into the set combined with a story that did a really bad job of explain "angels are back now", actually, so I think "X: aftermath" is a great move.

ok hear me out, what if they did a couple of sets that are related, they could share story and theme and some mechanics. We could call it a group, or maybe something like a "block"

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

long-rear end nips Diane posted:

ok hear me out, what if they did a couple of sets that are related, they could share story and theme and some mechanics. We could call it a group, or maybe something like a "block"

yeah they suck and will never return

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
they do have blocks it's called "the set" + "the followup alchemy set"

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Huh. They're really tying up Phyrexia in two sets there? That was quick.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I'm not big into the lore, but I enjoy when planes get revisited in future Commander products. Little nods like that to the larger multiverse are great, and so are further exploring set mechanics in ways that would be too much for the base set.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010

CatstropheWaitress posted:

Huh. They're really tying up Phyrexia in two sets there? That was quick.

it's an improvement over the Bolas arc which was tied up in one set

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I didn't see this mentioned last week with all the Phyrexia set spoilers, but March of the Machine will be a test of Hearthstone's mini set model. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-of-the-machine-arrives-in-2023

March of the Machine :Aftermath will be a standard legal 'microset' releasing with 6 card Collector's Pack or 5 Card Epilogue boosters.

WTF?

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I didn't see this mentioned last week with all the Phyrexia set spoilers, but March of the Machine will be a test of Hearthstone's mini set model. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-of-the-machine-arrives-in-2023

March of the Machine :Aftermath will be a standard legal 'microset' releasing with 6 card Collector's Pack or 5 Card Epilogue boosters.

give me a 5 card epilogue pack at the start of a draft that I get to open and then draft the 3 packs of MoM regularly, that would be cool as heck

generatrix
Aug 8, 2008

Nothing hurts like a scrape
Mat, confused: Wait... how many moms do we have?
Mat's brother: BRO! ONE MOM, MAT!

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Are these mini boosters going to have a miniprice? Are they making mini booster boxes for a miniprice or do they just declare every card in the miniset a rare and increase the price?

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
The collector's boxes are up on the Amazon price at the normal price. https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gather...ps%2C205&sr=8-3

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

The collector's boxes are up on the Amazon price at the normal price. https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gather...ps%2C205&sr=8-3

each card costs than you pay for a booster pack if you buy a box, lawl

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

The collector's boxes are up on the Amazon price at the normal price. https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gather...ps%2C205&sr=8-3

Hahahahahaha fuuuuuck that.

Vidmaster
Oct 26, 2002



evilweasel posted:

each card costs than you pay for a booster pack if you buy a box, lawl

I'm still in the "gently caress that" camp, but isn't this basically just a normal collector booster with the cruft taken out? The 15 card ones have all the foil and showcase commons/uncommons in those slots, and these look to be probably 4 rares + land + bonus or something?

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Aug 2, 2021

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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I didn't see this mentioned last week with all the Phyrexia set spoilers, but March of the Machine will be a test of Hearthstone's mini set model. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-of-the-machine-arrives-in-2023

March of the Machine :Aftermath will be a standard legal 'microset' releasing with 6 card Collector's Pack or 5 Card Epilogue boosters.

A huge difference being that that hearthstone set is a one time cost that gives you a full "playset" of the cards and this seems to be randomized?

I don't know what WotC's deal is lately, but they seem to be absolutely allergic to offering complete products in favor of making buyers gamble.

Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 20, 2022

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Vidmaster posted:

I'm still in the "gently caress that" camp, but isn't this basically just a normal collector booster with the cruft taken out? The 15 card ones have all the foil and showcase commons/uncommons in those slots, and these look to be probably 4 rares + land + bonus or something?

The regular boosters aren't much better;

Description

Epilogue Boosters continue the story in between sets. Each lore-packed booster guarantees a foil and a Showcase card! The March of the Machine: The Aftermath Epilogue Booster Box contains 24 March of the Machine: The Aftermath Epilogue Boosters. Each Epilogue Booster contains 5 cards, with a combination of 1–3 card(s) of rarity Rare or higher and 2–4 Uncommon cards. In every pack, a total of 1–2 card(s) of any rarity are Traditional Foil.


Looks like there's no commons in the miniset?

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


I want the next story arc to be Marit Lage showing up and kicking the poo poo out of everyone.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

The regular boosters aren't much better;

Description

Epilogue Boosters continue the story in between sets. Each lore-packed booster guarantees a foil and a Showcase card! The March of the Machine: The Aftermath Epilogue Booster Box contains 24 March of the Machine: The Aftermath Epilogue Boosters. Each Epilogue Booster contains 5 cards, with a combination of 1–3 card(s) of rarity Rare or higher and 2–4 Uncommon cards. In every pack, a total of 1–2 card(s) of any rarity are Traditional Foil.


Looks like there's no commons in the miniset?

There are no named commons but like, arent uncommons just commons infact in this system

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
Tbh if the packs are cheaper i dont mind to much, it seems like having a small card pool emphasizes the story better and if thats the point okay

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

Kashuno posted:

give me a 5 card epilogue pack at the start of a draft that I get to open and then draft the 3 packs of MoM regularly, that would be cool as heck

actually yeah this would be pretty interesting, which means it won't happen

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


mandatory lesbian posted:

Tbh if the packs are cheaper

lol

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

mandatory lesbian posted:

Tbh if the packs are cheaper i dont mind to much, it seems like having a small card pool emphasizes the story better and if thats the point okay

I mean there's a good chance the regular Boosters will be, Amazon has a box for $119 while the March of the Machine regular set booster box is $160. And $119 is even cheaper than the where the initially priced Jumpstart.

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

mandatory lesbian posted:

it seems like having a small card pool emphasizes the story better and if thats the point okay

This really just seems like how they did the old block system, where the third set of the block was generally smaller than the other two come to think of it. Though I guess this new set is even smaller than the old final sets from each block

I wonder if they'll end up with 2 normal sets than an aftermath set and we'll be back to the original system for lore reasons, but not called blocks anymore

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mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
The old block system sucked, id rather they do this tbh

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