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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Starsfan posted:

^^^Kind of a strange comparison because I'm not aware of Zelenskey having taken over the position of supreme commander of the Ukrainian armed forces, or presuming to give commands to the military above the heads of his advisors.

he's looking good a week out from that tumble down a flight of stairs he had.

Al-Saqr spends the entire war putting the Russians on blast for not launching bold offensives and not being committed to winning the war and now when reports come of an impending Russian offensive he's mocking the Russians for being unrealistic? I can't figure this guy out

actually im putting the russians on blast for failing all the time and losing in quite spectacular and self-inflicted ways. and im dismissing reports of a russian offensive because not only is it in a place and time that ukranians saw coming a mile away and prepared for and is in terrible locations for mechanized warfare i genuinely dont think the russians actually can win any major pushes at this point. maybe im wrong who knows?

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Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

CODChimera posted:

as a kid i watched stargate and loved p90s

goldeneye for me

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
oops wrong thread

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

What else is even there to "improve" about a gun that isn't specialisation

Margins.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


crepeface posted:

lmao again

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique


We had a study, before buying the new rifle from Colt Canada anyway, that showed that really the accuracy of the shooter was the only measurable difference at 400m. I'm sure that directly contributed to us buying an angled and vertical grip alongside every rifle in the name of ergonomics, but that misses the point. The rifleman is the limitation, not the rifle, and realistically probably has been since at least the 1970's, more likely earlier.

However, training marksmanship is all personnel costs, spending money on hardware goes to the MIC. It's clear which way that's going to go. Part of the reason we don't train marksmanship like it's 1910 is because combat history shows it doesn't really matter, but somehow that's never stopped spending on hardware.

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

We had a study, before buying the new rifle from Colt Canada anyway, that showed that really the accuracy of the shooter was the only measurable difference at 400m. I'm sure that directly contributed to us buying an angled and vertical grip alongside every rifle in the name of ergonomics, but that misses the point. The rifleman is the limitation, not the rifle, and realistically probably has been since at least the 1970's, more likely earlier.

However, training marksmanship is all personnel costs, spending money on hardware goes to the MIC. It's clear which way that's going to go. Part of the reason we don't train marksmanship like it's 1910 is because combat history shows it doesn't really matter, but somehow that's never stopped spending on hardware.

It's also a bit electoral maybe. You get a new rifle to show up for your spending on the military instead of some not so tangible "training". Like building new highways instead of fixing the existing ones.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

supersnowman posted:

It's also a bit electoral maybe. You get a new rifle to show up for your spending on the military instead of some not so tangible "training". Like building new highways instead of fixing the existing ones.

That tracks as well

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

When I think "next gen rifle" I think "rifle that has ridiculously high rate of fire/projectile velocity, and also has crazy ammo"

So something like a rifle that shoots 100 miniature flechettes a second at Mach 5. When you press the trigger you just hear a loud screeching sound.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Ytlaya posted:

When I think "next gen rifle" I think "rifle that has ridiculously high rate of fire/projectile velocity, and also has crazy ammo"

So something like a rifle that shoots 100 miniature flechettes a second at Mach 5. When you press the trigger you just hear a loud screeching sound.

yeah a future gun like judge dread or deckard from blade runner. if its not that then its not a next gen gun sorry

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Naming anything "next generation [item]" or "Future [item] system" just sets it up to seem like a joke 30 years down the road. If it's the name of the development program, then dropped, ok, but some things retain that name long into obsolescence.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

https://twitter.com/AniaKoniec/status/1604145618351521794

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

they should invent target seeking bullets

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

They call those "missiles"

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
"Bullet seeking Target" is a good dating profile tag

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
all the non-sexy stuff like field kitchens and containerized refrigerators doesnt seem so subject to grift

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

OctaMurk posted:

all the non-sexy stuff like field kitchens and containerized refrigerators doesnt seem so subject to grift

The US MIC found a way to grift sandbags

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

This was confirmed to be something that straight up, didn't happen :nallears:

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

OctaMurk posted:

all the non-sexy stuff like field kitchens and containerized refrigerators doesnt seem so subject to grift

Boring stuff like HEMTTs are real success stories, and they actually have utility in things like disaster response or civil assistance in a way that fancy missiles or jets simply do not.

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
Fake Island

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Futanari Damacy posted:

This was confirmed to be something that straight up, didn't happen :nallears:

One of the Ukrainians registered "Russian vessel go gently caress yourself" as a trademark so it's real in capitalism, the most important layer of reality

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
i started playing sea of thieves recently and i lol every time i sail by snake island

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
It's real in the gangtags of all the worst posters

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

РИА Новости posted:

Putin ordered the formation of a working group on cooperation between the authorities on mobilisation training and mobilisation, instructing it to report on a monthly basis
(from t.me/rian_ru/189305, via tgsa)

РИА Новости posted:

Putin told Pasechnyk that the federal centre will not impose any decisions on the privatisation of coal enterprises on the LNR and promised to provide subsidies for salaries and keeping them in operation
(from t.me/rian_ru/189307, via tgsa)

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Al-Saqr posted:

actually im putting the russians on blast for failing all the time and losing in quite spectacular and self-inflicted ways. and im dismissing reports of a russian offensive because not only is it in a place and time that ukranians saw coming a mile away and prepared for and is in terrible locations for mechanized warfare i genuinely dont think the russians actually can win any major pushes at this point. maybe im wrong who knows?

NAFO convention is down the hall to the far right.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

What's the text on the helmet of the soldier being interviewed say?

I can just see "___________ MOTHER FUCKER // 51% SON OF A BITCH"

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Al-Saqr posted:

actually im putting the russians on blast for failing all the time and losing in quite spectacular and self-inflicted ways. and im dismissing reports of a russian offensive because not only is it in a place and time that ukranians saw coming a mile away and prepared for and is in terrible locations for mechanized warfare i genuinely dont think the russians actually can win any major pushes at this point. maybe im wrong who knows?

The sad part here is that Ukraine is still losing horribly despite all of that.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Also, it downs to the fact that the Germans would essentially have to give up their conventional ability to drop bombs because the US military wouldn't certify the EX for being nuclear capable so they have to go with the F-35.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 21:19 on Dec 20, 2022

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Ardennes posted:

Haha nah, the testing is real and very easy to find.

if you write “haha,” it proves you aren’t mad about being wrong about simple things.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

mlmp08 posted:

if you write “haha,” it proves you aren’t mad about being wrong about simple things.

hmmm okay

It isn't going to stop the Germans from losing much of their conventional bombing capability.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 21:26 on Dec 20, 2022

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I'm no longer mad at mlmp because I understand he has an addiction to terrible posting and can't help himself or his compulsions

I'm mad at Ardennes for enabling this behavior like a drug dealer, shame on you Ardennes

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Ardennes, these are some pretty amazing whole-post edits you’re throwing into your posts after the fact. It’s an impressive commitment to being wrong and mad about it.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

lobster shirt posted:

i read all of mlmp08s posts, andn look forward to reading more

you should read them twice, for my sake.

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

mlmp08 posted:

Boring stuff like HEMTTs are real success stories, and they actually have utility in things like disaster response or civil assistance in a way that fancy missiles or jets simply do not.

New theory:

The more a project/item will see media coverage, the more grift will happen.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
If Germany retiring Tornados stops videos like this from happening, retire it without any replacement at all:

https://twitter.com/thenewarea51/status/1605217587519856640?s=46&t=xd9-aLFwoG_r-bRIgUamYQ

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Slavvy posted:

I'm mad at Ardennes for enabling this behavior like a drug dealer, shame on you Ardennes

I love it (shrug) but also I don't get a long with a lot of Cspam to be honest. I was given a lot of poo poo about China eventually having to ease off Zero COVID.

mlmp08 posted:

Ardennes, these are some pretty amazing whole-post edits you’re throwing into your posts after the fact. It’s an impressive commitment to being wrong and mad about it.

It is just how I post usually. But getting back to basics, even if the F-15EX won't be certified, you are putting the weight on the Germans having to give up essential conventional capabilities due to being reliant on the US military apparatus and the MIC.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

Tankbuster posted:

you should read them twice, for my sake.

done

iCe-CuBe.
Jun 9, 2011
I stand with My Little Pony soldier guy

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Ardennes posted:

It is just how I post usually. But getting back to basics, even if the F-15EX won't be certified, you are putting the weight on the Germans having to give up essential conventional capabilities due to being reliant on the US military apparatus and the MIC.

I’m glad you have finally realized you were confused about the F-15E vs the F-15EX.

I think raw payload matters to an extent, but we’re no longer in the era of F-105s and Tornados dropping big sticks of dumb bombs and cluster bombs with low to middling accuracy. So a Tornado carrying lots of dumb bombs and being shot down or missing its target is less useful than a survivable plane dropping more precise weapons that hit the intended target. Whether F-35 is the best answer or not, up to the Germans. But more raw pounds aren’t simply more better. The Germans were previously planning on the F/A-18E/F, which is not LO and also has a very slightly lower max payload than the F-35 flying in observable configuration.

You can see a similar move being made by Russian bomber forces, China’s modernized fighters, etc, to prefer survivability and precision over mass ordnance carriers that can’t penetrate enemy airspace and drop legacy weapons.

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

nothing but net

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/starlink-will-send-another-10000-satellite-terminals-to-ukraine/amp/

quote:

![](https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/getty-starlink-ukraine-800x533.jpg)

A Starlink satellite dish in Odesa, Ukraine, in March 2022.

Getty Images | NurPhoto

Ukraine will get more than 10,000 more Starlink terminals in the coming months thanks to a new deal with SpaceX and funding from several European countries, Ukraine government official Mykhailo Fedorov said in an [interview with Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-20/ukraine-to-get-thousands-more-starlink-antennas-minister-says). Fedorov said that "all financial issues have been resolved," at least until the spring.

SpaceX previously asked the Pentagon to fund the Ukraine government and military's use of Starlink broadband, saying it can't afford to donate more user terminals or pay for operations indefinitely. But CEO Elon Musk backtracked from that stance in October, [writing](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/10/spacex-says-it-cant-keep-funding-starlink-in-ukraine-asks-pentagon-for-money/), "The hell with it... even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we'll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free."

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Fedorov, Ukraine's vice prime minister and minister of digital transformation, said in the new interview with Bloomberg that "Musk assured us he will continue to support Ukraine. When we had a powerful blackout, I messaged him on that day and he momentarily reacted and has already delivered some steps. He understands the situation."

Russia invaded Ukraine in February. The war continues and has [forced millions of Ukrainians](https://data.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine) to flee their homes.

Starlink's satellite Internet service has been [vital for Ukraine's military](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/03/starlink-helps-ukraines-elite-drone-unit-target-and-destroy-russian-tanks/) amid disruptions to wired broadband networks. "There is no alternative to satellite connections," Fedorov told Bloomberg during the interview in his office in Kyiv.

## Governments partially funded Starlink for Ukraine

Although the [US government helped fund](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/) Starlink service in Ukraine, Musk [wrote on October 7](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1578433482757271552) that "only a small percentage" of Starlink terminals and service were paid for by outside sources and that the "operation has cost SpaceX $80M & will exceed $100M by end of year."

The US Agency for International Development purchased 1,508 Starlink terminals for Ukraine in March for about $3 million and "delivered an additional 3,667 terminals that SpaceX donated, with the company paying for Internet service for all the terminals," a [Foreign Policy report](https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/11/22/ukraine-internet-starlink-elon-musk-russia-war/) last month said. Poland's government "has paid around $5.9 million for Starlink services [in Ukraine], with support from Polish state enterprises," and the UK has contributed as well, the report said.

Ukrainian residents have also [purchased Starlink terminals](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/11/starlink-prices-in-ukraine-nearly-double-as-mobile-networks-falter/).

Fedorov told Bloomberg that Ukraine has received about 22,000 Starlink antennas since February, not including the 10,000 expected to be sent in the coming months. He also described new funding deals with European countries:

> While there's no contract yet, the governments of several European Union countries are ready to share payment, he said, declining to publicly identify them. "As of now all financial issues have been resolved," he said, adding that Ukraine will need to find additional funding in the spring.

Ukraine is preparing for possible long-term outages "if Russia manages to further destroy the country's energy infrastructure," the Bloomberg story noted.

"We are ready to live without electricity for a month with at least mobile network and text messages being available," Fedorov was quoted as saying. "Regarding Internet, we have a lot of Starlinks, but the key point is we have got a nod for another shipment that will be used to stabilize connection for critical situations."

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