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I think people sell New Super Mario Bros U short in the comparisons to Mario Maker. If you want 2D Mario, U has tons and tons of really high quality levels - and, notably, only high quality levels, with no piles of mediocre stuff to sift through. It also has a world map with hidden exits, collectables that are actually tracked and can unlock things, and the whole New Super Luigi U expansion, which is a really great and well made take on more Kaizo-ish levels without getting frustrating. Not that Mario Maker isn't great as well, but there's a big difference between a bespoke, standalone Mario game and an endless pile of individual user levels, and there's plenty of reasons you might prefer the former.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:21 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 06:44 |
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Yeah, but New Super Mario Bros. has the butt ugly art style.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:24 |
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I think people were just really burned out on NSMB by the time U came around, it didn't help that it was Mario's Wii U debut instead of a new 3D title. It's a tightly designed underappeciated game.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:27 |
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The New Super Mario Bros artstyle is fine.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:29 |
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Mario Maker is great but yeah NSMBU is being undersold; it's a visually bland game but its levels are aces, as with nearly any Mario game, and are decently challenging. Plus, yeah, all the stuff you can't get in Mario Maker like secret exits. And Mario Maker doesn't have nearly as many level gimmicks--yeah, part of the fun is seeing how creative people can get in creating their own gimmicks with the limited toolset, but it's still a far cry from actual natively implemented gimmicks (which gets very apparent when you put NSMBU next to the recreation of NSMBU in MM)
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:30 |
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Snake Maze posted:The New Super Mario Bros artstyle is fine. This thread has taught me that the litmus test for a Mario art style is whether or not it conveys his proper rear end size
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:31 |
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reminder that kirby and the forgotten land is a masterpiece and everyone should play it
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:40 |
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I've posted this sort of thing before but there are over 20 million SMM2 user levels currently available in the game. Let's pretend that 99% of them are utter trash. That still leaves 200,000 non-trash levels, a lot of which have made it to many best-of lists available online. Plus, since April 2020, users have been able to string the levels together to make their own worlds, which has been great. It's not perfect, I kind of wish it locked you into one style so you could collect power ups to carry over, but hey, it's better than having to individually track down each of those levels. Also, most creators who work hard on good levels don't just suddenly upload garbage, so with the STAR on a user's profile, which acts as sort of a "follow", you can go under one tab and see everything that's been uploaded by creators you're following. People bitch and moan about trash levels, but with the smallest amount of effort (which I realize might be too much to ask for some of you), you can have a fantastic SMM2 experience, through and through. Also, yeah, the campaign is filled with top tier levels, and if you go to the leaderboards section, you'll find even more levels made by Nintendo, from different regions. There aren't a ton, but I wonder how many people have missed those ones? Edit: also, it can be genuinely fun sometimes to do a sort of trash gauntlet, going through some of the dumbest creations imaginable.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:43 |
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An Actual Princess posted:reminder that kirby and the forgotten land is a masterpiece and everyone should play it
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:43 |
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An Actual Princess posted:reminder that kirby and the forgotten land is a masterpiece and everyone should play it Kirby rules
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:47 |
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I was always fine with the art but I hate that the enemies dance or whatever with the music. Knock it off Koopa, I'm gonna smush you.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:48 |
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An Actual Princess posted:reminder that kirby and the forgotten land is a masterpiece and everyone should play it
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 19:50 |
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Palmtree Panic posted:Yeah, but New Super Mario Bros. has the butt ugly art style. no its good
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:17 |
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Looks like rear end
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:20 |
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Then again I think DKC Returns looks like rear end
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:20 |
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The starry night stage in nsmbu was really neat
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:23 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Then again I think DKC Returns looks like rear end didnt play returns, but tropic freeze is beautiful and sounds amazing. also just an insanely good n well made platformer, one of my personal goats for sure
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:27 |
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Augus posted:Mario maker owns but I would not recommend it as a replacement for a full-length Mario game designed by Nintendo Sounds like someone that couldn't beat Bowser's Big Bean Burrito.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:34 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:People bitch and moan about trash levels, but with the smallest amount of effort (which I realize might be too much to ask for some of you), you can have a fantastic SMM2 experience, through and through.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:36 |
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No they’re not.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:38 |
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ExcessBLarg! posted:The only problem with SMM2 is that those levels are all going to vanish sometime next year. Which, sure, to your point you should play them now before they do. why would you say that?
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:39 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Looks like rear end asses look good, op E: exceptions apply Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Dec 20, 2022 |
# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:39 |
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You can still play Mario Maker 1 levels.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:39 |
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American McGay posted:You can still play Mario Maker 1 levels. you telling me that dude just lied in the switch thread ...?
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:42 |
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That's illegal
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:45 |
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The Switch thread is sacred. I cannot forgive this
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:49 |
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you cannot upload new levels to mario maker 1 but you can still play the levels that were already uploaded
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 20:55 |
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All Mario Maker 2 levels will be deleted as a show of solidarity with the Ukraine
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 21:09 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Lol at even considering NSMBUD if you haven't gotten Super Mario Maker 2 yet. I don't know if that's your situation, but holy poo poo, SMM2 is infinite Mario, and you don't have to always play in that gross NSMB style. There are trash levels, sure. And there are also insanely creative and fun levels, too. NSMBU is a game full of really great levels that is a ton of fun to play while Super Mario Maker requires looking pretty hard to find courses that match up to those. There are lots of fun levels but NSMBU is a really great Mario game.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 21:14 |
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New Super Luigi U owns
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 21:26 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I've posted this sort of thing before but there are over 20 million SMM2 user levels currently available in the game. Let's pretend that 99% of them are utter trash. I agree with this sentiment but it’s more like 99.99% of user levels are trash
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 21:46 |
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https://twitter.com/KitfoxGames/status/1604884265061187584An Actual Princess posted:reminder that kirby and the forgotten land is a masterpiece and everyone should play it The Waddle Dee town development thing was SUCH a good addition, I'm a sucker for that kind of thing in games. I loved the villa in Assassin's Creed 2.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 22:28 |
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ExcessBLarg! posted:The only problem with SMM2 is that those levels are all going to vanish sometime next year. Which, sure, to your point you should play them now before they do. I read the same article, Nostradorkus, but I don't believe the super-secret 6th Mayan calender running out next year will result in the apocalypse. Those SMM2-levels remain safe, for now
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 22:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qXjO6eQm34
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 22:49 |
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BigDumper posted:I agree with this sentiment but it’s more like 99.99% of user levels are trash That's still 2000 levels.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 23:06 |
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Didn't they start deleting levels if they weren't played for 30 days or something? I recall one of mine from mm1 got deleted. Now the world is deprived of my genius
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 23:08 |
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No.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 23:10 |
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https://en-americas-support.nintend...-%28super-marioquote:A Course I Uploaded Seems to Have Disappeared. Where Did it Go? (Super Mario Maker) Yeah, they deleted states with low stars/plays. Fools.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 23:14 |
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Sounds like it was a bad level. Try harder next time.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 23:17 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 06:44 |
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that’s also mario maker 1.
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# ? Dec 20, 2022 23:23 |