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https://twitter.com/TeslaAviation/status/1605281890746765313 He's lost them.
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Musk is colossally an engineer if you use engineer in the perjorative sense of a bright ideas guy who can read a textbook over the weekend and start spewing out his idiotic ideas to people actually doing the work who filter and fix them into the real project.
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You can tell when someone has been completely captured by Elon's orbit, they think their bullshit actually works on people. It's like those sad bastards who think they're pick-up artists and workshop their "open" to each other based on a pic of some girl bent over looking at the bottom shelf at a grocery store.
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confused posted:True dat. To be fair, you probably could have cut the Twitter engineering team by an order of mangitude and replaced them with a higher quality team. As I mentioned, Twitter's eng has always been subpar compared to your Googles or Facebooks or the like. He just tried to do it in the dumbest way possible. Probably not? Like, my understanding of the engineering behind the computer-touching arts is limited (much like Elon's) to a vague understanding of the state of the art in Linux and HTML as of 1999. But if I have actually learned anything from this fiasco it's how intricate things like Twitter really are beneath the surface, and that the guys who built this thing must've been pretty good because the site continues to chug along despite losing 80% of the critical maintenance staff.
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Dec 20, 2022 20:41
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confused posted:That's not what I said. I said he has a deep understand and can hold his own with experts in many fields. I think people don't understand the diffence between being an individual contributer and a CTO/VP Eng. Of course, Musk hasn't written code since the late 90s. I haven't written code except for fun in like 6 years at this point. Deep understand. So much engineer. Wow.
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I should've guessed this was going to happen sooner or later: https://twitter.com/eladnehorai/status/1605270518415757312?s=46&t=CNW2Cnerl-HbcVDbwBVa5g Starting to get less ha-ha-funny and more nervous laughter.
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confused posted:That's not what I said. I said he has a deep understand and can hold his own with experts in many fields. I think people don't understand the diffence between being an individual contributer and a CTO/VP Eng. Of course, Musk hasn't written code since the late 90s. I haven't written code except for fun in like 6 years at this point. Thinking you're an engineer and speaking with confidence on matters you don't understand does not actually make you an engineer. I'm sorry you had to find out this way. E: Okay, I will grant you that it does make you An Engineer, in the same way you don't have to be a pleasant dude to be a Nice Guy. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 20, 2022 |
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Dec 20, 2022 20:43
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E the Shaggy posted:WELL HOW WOULD YOU DO IT THEN??? Ah I can just feel the leadership and confidence Elon is exuding
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Thinking you're an engineer and speaking with confidence on matters you don't understand does not actually make you an engineer. To be fair it's a common trait of engineers
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mobby_6kl posted:
And he didn't even draw that, the Engineering team (that he kept up at 1 AM for no god damned reason) did, and then he fired more of them.
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Dec 20, 2022 20:45
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Elon can't even hold a conversation with such "distinguished" intellects such as Miles Ian Chong or catturd1488, GTFO with his "he has a deep understanding of engineering concepts". He's the IT guy who uses a bunch of buzzwords he probably picked up via osmosis with not real understanding and ends up needing someone else to clean up their mess.
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Butterwagon posted:To be fair it's a common trait of engineers I think we call them stemlords now, to distinguish them from people who can both engineer and apply basic social capacity.
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confused posted:That's not what I said. I said he has a deep understand and can hold his own with experts in many fields. I think people don't understand the diffence between being an individual contributer and a CTO/VP Eng. Of course, Musk hasn't written code since the late 90s. I haven't written code except for fun in like 6 years at this point. Haven’t seen a username/post combo align like this in quite some time.
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confused posted:That's not what I said. I said he has a deep understand and can hold his own with experts in many fields. I think people don't understand the diffence between being an individual contributer and a CTO/VP Eng. Of course, Musk hasn't written code since the late 90s. I haven't written code except for fun in like 6 years at this point. Does he have that deep understanding though? People that are genuinely very smart engineers let their careers speak for themselves. John Carmack doesn't have fake degrees and a manufactured mythology; he just made DOOM and Quake work. Elon, on the other hand, proclaimed a fake physics degree for years.
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Dec 20, 2022 20:49
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He says he's an engineer, and he's rich, so I believe him
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Dec 20, 2022 20:50
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anyone who says he's never written code, Elon Musk has literally had his code published in a magazine. Yes it's not good code and he's a bad person and bad engineer, but it's technically code that he's written.
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Butterwagon posted:To be fair it's a common trait of engineers As an engineer, it's a trait I hope to work out of any future engineers I find myself around. Engineering in general might be the Dunning-Kruger-est industry on the planet.
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Dec 20, 2022 20:50
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Seems like there are still lots of bots trading at the stock exchange. Interesting.
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Also he says first principles and order of magnitude a lot. Those are engineer words as far as I'm concerned
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Youth Decay posted:I should've guessed this was going to happen sooner or later: Elon is an engineer with a deep understanding of engineering concepts, I'm not sure how you can expect him to understand/catch antisemitic tropes and propaganda. /s
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Chainclaw posted:anyone who says he's never written code, Elon Musk has literally had his code published in a magazine. Nobody claimed he hadn't written code, but thanks for that. That doesn't translate into: sudden knowledge of both rocket and vehicle engineers as well as modern devops/development.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I think we call them stemlords now, to distinguish them from people Fixed that for you. Also, it just struck me that with Elmo we have an Apartheid pissbaby who is deep into Dunning-Krugerands, and that makes me smile.
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Dec 20, 2022 20:51
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Philthy posted:Tim Cook wouldn't take the 30% cut out, so Musk raised it by 35% on IOS. It just means more money for Apple. And Twitter on the IOS store still looks absolutely presidential: 
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CommieGIR posted:Nobody claimed he hadn't written code, but thanks for that. Several people have been claiming he's never done engineering in this thread.
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Analog posted:Trump, for all of his flaws, is a brilliant businessman. Yeah it's this. Chuds give trump the benefit of the doubt but most people can deduce that he's totally full of poo poo and can't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. Fortunately we can use context clues with Musk and see that he is a compulsive liar with everything he does and turns everything he touches to poo poo so I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's a great engineer for no reason at all.
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Chainclaw posted:Several people have been claiming he's never done engineering in this thread. Hahaha thank you so much for clearing this up. Also glad to know Elon's mom apparently has an account here. *holds up 9th grade report card* You see? My son got an A in math. He's a mathematician.
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Its looking like its going to hit 139 today. 140.15 now.
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BadOptics posted:Elon is an engineer with a deep understanding of engineering concepts, I'm not sure how you can expect him to understand/catch antisemitic tropes and propaganda. /s if people start using reddit style sarcasm tags here unironically im hiring some chubby mobsters to hit the servers with bats no cap
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Serious_Cyclone posted:For the same reason that you could never claim that a head of broccoli was a bad engineer Lt. Broccoli saved the Enterprise on several occasions. You could never claim he was a bad engineer.
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Yeah the poster in here claiming to be a 2-decade software engineering VP is playing the part well: complete but unrecognized ignorance and inability to evaluate the skills of engineers but a belief that they, "know what they're doing." Sounds pretty familiar!
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Chainclaw posted:Several people have been claiming he's never done engineering in this thread. That's not "engineering"
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PostNouveau posted:Lt. Broccoli saved the Enterprise on several occasions. You could never claim he was a bad engineer. The man got Voyager home from the Delta Quadrant as well. He's a loving legend.
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steinrokkan posted:Seems like there are still lots of bots trading at the stock exchange. Interesting.
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140.20 is kind of the meme price...
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mobby_6kl posted:That's not "engineering" Lol yeah I wrote a bunch of BASIC when I was a kid, i was not an ultimate genius 9 year old super engineer
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CommieGIR posted:Nobody claimed he hadn't written code, but thanks for that. You know what I'm going to claim that he hasn't written any code in his life. If his degrees are fake and he keeps buying companies and "going look what I invented!" then there is a bloody high chance that he paid someone else to do it. "look I got my code into a magazine, please find a copy enclosed and thank you for the allowance mommy!". The blatant stolen valour thing is usually a pattern established young and it's not just for attention, children will learn helplessness if a parent wants to make them reliant on them. Basically the rich kid who got pushed down the stairs at school for mocking a grieving child and was allowed to paint himself as the victim, would 100% bully the butler into doing his homework as well" Also if he went to public/private school those places teach them from a very very young age how to remember and repeat. It's all copy this down and regurgitate it in an exam later style of teaching, which trains these kids into drones who can fake being smart as adults. This also explains a lot of reddit.
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A side point but — anyone who says "Twitter engineers are subpar", while I don't doubt that it was a comparatively cushy place to work with lots of perks, I have to guess they probably saw this video or something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQbHyLE6Tc Which, like ... lord I hope you have someone competent handling your retirement savings if you think that's real (the person at work circulating it freely admitted it's from LibsOfTikTok)
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mobby_6kl posted:That's not "engineering" Just because it's lovely rear end code for a lovely rear end PC game in the '80s or lovely rear end FMV games in the '90s doesn't make it not engineering.
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Discount Dracula posted:And Twitter on the IOS store still looks absolutely presidential:
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Chainclaw posted:Several people have been claiming he's never done engineering in this thread. No, we were asking the guy that claimed he was a "brilliant engineer" what Elon has personally engineered so that when he brings up what hes done, we can laugh at him
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