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Didn't blocks mostly suck because of how you drafted them? Aside from the problem of a middle set of the 3 set block being dumb, but then they shifted to 2 set blocks. Now they don't have blocks because they can just tell a story for however many sets... except now they can't? Oh wait, they're just taking what used to be a story article on the main website and putting it on cards and charging extra for it.
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Dec 20, 2022 23:01
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Bring back the 3 set block system but only if I get a trashy fantasy novel for each one again too. The blog post stories aren't even trashy they're just bad
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Dec 20, 2022 23:21
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A Moose posted:Oh wait, they're just taking what used to be a story article on the main website and putting it on cards and charging extra for it. I didn't even think of it that way. That's even worse. Ugh
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Dec 20, 2022 23:26
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TotalHell posted:I want the next story arc to be Marit Lage showing up and kicking the poo poo out of everyone. Including wotc execs and kicking fire design back to the stone age
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Dec 20, 2022 23:41
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No blocks. Only secret lairs.
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Dec 20, 2022 23:52
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A Moose posted:Didn't blocks mostly suck because of how you drafted them? Aside from the problem of a middle set of the 3 set block being dumb, but then they shifted to 2 set blocks. Now they don't have blocks because they can just tell a story for however many sets... except now they can't? I would rather have story on cards than the website because it's a card game
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Dec 21, 2022 00:07
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Blocks were fine when they were designed as 3 coherent sets and not 2 coherent sets and then some random garbage as a third set To this day for example I think original RAV/GPT/DIS was one of the best draft experiences they ever did
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Dec 21, 2022 00:28
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Weird Pumpkin posted:This really just seems like how they did the old block system, where the third set of the block was generally smaller than the other two come to think of it. Though I guess this new set is even smaller than the old final sets from each block The third set in a block issue was cause they ran out of creative juice to have a third set meshing with the same mechanics. Considering that the addendum set isn't occupying the slot of an actual full set it's basically bonus cards (and bonus money for WOTC)
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Dec 21, 2022 00:32
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Vidmaster posted:I'm still in the "gently caress that" camp, but isn't this basically just a normal collector booster with the cruft taken out? The 15 card ones have all the foil and showcase commons/uncommons in those slots, and these look to be probably 4 rares + land + bonus or something? Is this just a reprint set? Seems like they could just make and print the cruft as uncommons and rares. There's nothing about a rare or uncommon that makes those cards inherently playable.
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Dec 21, 2022 00:41
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The Human Crouton posted:No blocks. Only secret lairs. WOTC and Hasbro execs: 
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Dec 21, 2022 01:55
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A Moose posted:Didn't blocks mostly suck because of how you drafted them? Aside from the problem of a middle set of the 3 set block being dumb, but then they shifted to 2 set blocks. Now they don't have blocks because they can just tell a story for however many sets... except now they can't? the only good block draft was OG ravnica, how it evolved from one set to two and then three was super cool
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Dec 21, 2022 07:24
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I both love and hate how much they're leaning into stupid sexy elesh norn
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Dec 21, 2022 08:30
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Goa Tse-tung posted:the only good block draft was OG ravnica, how it evolved from one set to two and then three was super cool Pretty much. Even though I still like 3xRAV better, that is the best three packs/three sets draft.
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Dec 21, 2022 09:23
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precision posted:I both love and hate how much they're leaning into stupid sexy elesh norn
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Dec 21, 2022 09:29
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Goa Tse-tung posted:the only good block draft was OG ravnica, how it evolved from one set to two and then three was super cool Triple og innistrad was so good, I remember 2xinn 1xdka being fine, but the last set being added definitely was worse The death of the block system is, at the very minimum, way more fun for limited. Also now no one has to even pretend to care about block constructed which is another net good
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Dec 21, 2022 13:24
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Triple og innistrad was so good, I remember 2xinn 1xdka being fine, but the last set being added definitely was worse AVR was drafted on its own
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Dec 21, 2022 13:26
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Barry Shitpeas posted:AVR was drafted on its own oh was it? It's been so long I didn't even remember that. I remember the pre-release was really fun for AVR though with the little achievement things and the giant pyramid with prizes for everyone based on how you filled it up though It was definitely worse than triple INN at least
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Dec 21, 2022 13:52
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oh, yeah, AVR is one of the worst draft formats of all time.
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disaster pastor posted:oh, yeah, AVR is one of the worst draft formats of all time. Yup! UG was the best deck by a wide margin, with Soulbond and bounce effects (particularly Mist Raven). White Red hyper-aggro was... kind of doable. Black was terrible, it had none of the set mechanics, a gimmick (having only one creature) that didn't work, and bad removal. You could maybe make black work, if you were literally the only person at the table drafting it, and you got lucky. Also Miracle was a miserable mechanic to play with.
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Dec 21, 2022 14:45
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Ixalan was the last block, right? Though I kinda want to draft GRN, RNA, and WAR as 1 block to see what its like, because that was clearly a block
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Dec 21, 2022 14:58
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A Moose posted:Ixalan was the last block, right? Though I kinda want to draft GRN, RNA, and WAR as 1 block to see what its like, because that was clearly a block WAR had no mechanical overlap with GRN or RNA; MID and VOW at least had some shared mechanics but they implemented Double Feature in the laziest possible way so they probably wrote it off as a failure
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Dec 21, 2022 15:27
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They've done GRN-RNA-WAR at least once on Arena but it's just a chaos draft. Because of the set designs there's not much synergy to work with going from pack 1 to 2. I only did a few drafts but remember starting Dimir in GRN since the Grixis amass stuff is good in WAR.
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Dec 21, 2022 15:32
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The Lord of Hats posted:Yup! UG was the best deck by a wide margin, with Soulbond and bounce effects (particularly Mist Raven). White Red hyper-aggro was... kind of doable. Black was terrible, it had none of the set mechanics, a gimmick (having only one creature) that didn't work, and bad removal. You could maybe make black work, if you were literally the only person at the table drafting it, and you got lucky. At least you always had a win against the guy who kept trying to make Vexing Devil happen.
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Dec 21, 2022 15:36
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Considering how bad AVR draft was and how overall weak the set was is it really punched above it’s weight in terms of introducing powerful playable cards: Terminus, Cavern, Craterhoof, Grissel, Druid’s Repository, Resto.
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Dec 21, 2022 15:42
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x3 Rise of Eldrazi was a great draft
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The Nastier Nate posted:x3 Rise of Eldrazi was a great draft ROE was my favorite draft format. Super battlecruiser magic. ---------------------- When did they switch block drafting from opening the initial set first to the latest release set first? Because that was the worst part of blocks, going to a draft and opening the same ol' poo poo, then only in the last pack seeing something new and interesting and not having any of the support for it. Looking at you Alara Reborn Though the worst event I ever went to was I think the Dragon Maze pre-release that was like 4x packs Dragon Maze with some seeded cards from the earlier two sets and holy poo poo was that a miserable pile of garbage to play with.
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Dec 21, 2022 15:52
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the dragons maze prerelease owned because I opened pure gas in my sealed pool and was getting regular T4-5 kills with rakdos unleash cards
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The Nastier Nate posted:x3 Rise of Eldrazi was a great draft Khans was also fantastic. 3 color and morph and so many viable archetypes.
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fadam posted:Considering how bad AVR draft was and how overall weak the set was is it really punched above it’s weight in terms of introducing powerful playable cards: Terminus, Cavern, Craterhoof, Grissel, Druid’s Repository, Resto. Conjurer's Closet too. I remember I had high expectations so I bought a grip for $1, they didn't show up for 2 weeks so emailed the guy and he apologized and sent out another 4. They both came the same day and he told to not worry they weren't worth the price of a stamp.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Conjurer's Closet too. I remember I had high expectations so I bought a grip for $1, they didn't show up for 2 weeks so emailed the guy and he apologized and sent out another 4. They both came the same day and he told to not worry they weren't worth the price of a stamp. Lol that rocks.
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jassi007 posted:Khans was also fantastic. 3 color and morph and so many viable archetypes. Khans is my favorite and I've been drafting since Champions of Kamigawa. That format is just so well balanced, skill intensive, and just plain fun. It also has an advantage over Ikoria draft in that you can easily cut off the strategy of the best deck in the format (5 color) by taking lands early.
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jassi007 posted:Khans was also fantastic. 3 color and morph and so many viable archetypes. Oh man, I remember the Khans prerelease. I was working so I would miss the start of it, and so my girlfriend, now wife, who had never played more than a couple FNMs and the odd commander games, offered to play for me so I could at least get the cards. I show up a the start of the 4th round and she's 3-0 and paired up against one of the best players in my state. She lucked out a little in getting a Sarkhan, but also put together an absolutely disgusting Temur deck. I watched her play the 4th round, win game 1, lose game 2, and then have a really really tight game 3 where she was ahead on board, but her opponent had a bomb creature that would bring him back into the game. Luckily she had a counterspell! She was about to take first place in her first pre-release! I watched in agonized silence as he cast it, she look at it, looked disappointed and let it resolve. He went on to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, and that is how I learned she didn't know that creatures were spells on the stack. She ended up getting 2nd place though, and more prize packs than I had ever won at that store before. It really was impressive to see.
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Kalli posted:ROE was my favorite draft format. Super battlecruiser magic. I wanna say scars of mirrodin block? I feel like I remember windmilling slamming Kuldotha Flamefiend https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=590138 whenever I opened one
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A Moose posted:Oh man, I remember the Khans prerelease. I was working so I would miss the start of it, and so my girlfriend, now wife, who had never played more than a couple FNMs and the odd commander games, offered to play for me so I could at least get the cards. I show up a the start of the 4th round and she's 3-0 and paired up against one of the best players in my state. She lucked out a little in getting a Sarkhan, but also put together an absolutely disgusting Temur deck. I watched her play the 4th round, win game 1, lose game 2, and then have a really really tight game 3 where she was ahead on board, but her opponent had a bomb creature that would bring him back into the game. Luckily she had a counterspell! She was about to take first place in her first pre-release! I watched in agonized silence as he cast it, she look at it, looked disappointed and let it resolve. He went on to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, and that is how I learned she didn't know that creatures were spells on the stack.
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I dug up some cards from last time I played paper, about a decade ago, and there's a bit of stuff I don't think I'll ever use in there that's worth buylisting. I'm exclusively Arena at this point, so credit for more cardboard isn't appealing to me. Is there anyone online that runs a buylist that also deals in board games? I'd love to get that sweet sweet store credit. I know Miniature Market used to but it looks like they shut down their singles dealings. Obviously I can just look around for my FLGS, but I'm curious if there's anything I can fall back on. EDIT: Wait did Jumpstart 2022 end up being good? I wouldn't mind trading for a box of that and just keeping it around for casual play with friends and kids. Boxman fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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Dec 22, 2022 13:51
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Boxman posted:I dug up some cards from last time I played paper, about a decade ago, and there's a bit of stuff I don't think I'll ever use in there that's worth buylisting. I'm exclusively Arena at this point, so credit for more cardboard isn't appealing to me. Is there anyone online that runs a buylist that also deals in board games? I'd love to get that sweet sweet store credit. I know Miniature Market used to but it looks like they shut down their singles dealings. Obviously I can just look around for my FLGS, but I'm curious if there's anything I can fall back on. Jumpstart 2022 is pretty good yeah
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A Moose posted:Didn't blocks mostly suck because of how you drafted them? Aside from the problem of a middle set of the 3 set block being dumb, but then they shifted to 2 set blocks. Now they don't have blocks because they can just tell a story for however many sets... except now they can't? Moving away from blocks was the best thing that they have done for draft basically ever. Even now, draft formats are solved in like 5-7 days tops, can you imagine if that was the format for 8-9 entire months?
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Rules question: Is there a window for responses between declaring an attacker and a creature's when attacking trigger going on the stack?
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Rules question: Nope. Do whatever you were going to do in the post-main, pre-combat spot. Or respond to it before it resolves.
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https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/elesh-norn-mother-of-machines-the-good-and-the-bad/ Turns out Sheldon thinks Elesh-Norn is too good for commander lol
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