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luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

a.p. dent posted:

i like playing dig a pony so that’s my pick. are there any you feel more confident with?

That's the one I keep coming back to, so thanks for backing up my gut!

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ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



well i just bought an american vintage ii '57 blonde strat

my american pro ii may be up for sale soon

GAS GAS GAS

edit:
blonde guitars... yay or nay...?


I know the '57 touches are not everybody's cup of tea.. with the larger neck profile and gloss instead of satin back neck but man does it sound and feel exactly like what I want out of my Strat. I have also been thinking for a while that choosing rosewood (as well as sunburst) for my strat was a mistake

Sorry for gear chat

ethanol fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Dec 21, 2022

Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

Do you all know any good material about bluegrass flatpicking?

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

DangerousSmells posted:

FM3 chat: screw it, I’m in. Ordered one tonight. They seem perfect for my situation. This solves the bass amp problem, portable practice amp problem, and the problem of wanting a different amp for metal noodling.

Hell yeah, its good poo poo.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Pondex posted:

Do you all know any good material about bluegrass flatpicking?

I've bought poo poo from homespun for blues playing before. I imagine they'd have a good bluegrass library, too - though it's probably worth waiting for sales. They have those pretty regularly.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
https://www.youtube.com/@BartHennephof/videos bart from textures breaks down a lot of their songs on his channel and it's really fun to see how he wrote those riffs

edit: it's insane that these guys don't get as much cred as they deserve for a lot of modern metal

muike fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Dec 21, 2022

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

muike posted:

https://www.youtube.com/@BartHennephof/videos bart from textures breaks down a lot of their songs on his channel and it's really fun to see how he wrote those riffs

edit: it's insane that these guys don't get as much cred as they deserve for a lot of modern metal

I'd rather watch the dude from hellripper explain how he makes everything himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rry7l5msjQ

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
yeah that's a really good album

Extortionist
Aug 31, 2001

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

DangerousSmells posted:

Any experience using the FM3 with physical pedals?

I just got an FM3 a few weeks ago. It takes pedals really well, I think.

The only (pretty minor) issue is that there's no dedicated effects loop, so if you want to e.g. insert things between the amp and cab you'll have to use the second output and input to do it.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Ever since I found out East Bay Ray puts his delay right in front of the amp I feel like effects loops have been lying to me this whole time

polar
Nov 3, 2003

ethanol posted:

well i just bought an american vintage ii '57 blonde strat

my american pro ii may be up for sale soon

GAS GAS GAS

edit:
blonde guitars... yay or nay...?


I know the '57 touches are not everybody's cup of tea.. with the larger neck profile and gloss instead of satin back neck but man does it sound and feel exactly like what I want out of my Strat. I have also been thinking for a while that choosing rosewood (as well as sunburst) for my strat was a mistake

Sorry for gear chat

Nice Choice, I was looking at those as well!

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



polar posted:

Nice Choice, I was looking at those as well!
yeah. maybe.. I spent the whole night playing it and loving it. then I suddenly found like 3 QC issues

lol the e string is barely on the board
I loosened the neck bolts a little and gave it a shove and it's not so bad now
https://i.imgur.com/tXBlOVB.jpg
but yeah I wouldn't give this an A for alignment because now I have this nice 'handmade' edge
https://i.imgur.com/X42CQCV.jpg
and new to me, misaligned pick guard holes, or they drilled the guitar wrong lol
https://i.imgur.com/FKmcUZ8.jpg

well I'm kinda mad but also I don't want to return it for little aesthetic issues it took me all night to find

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Either the whole bridge/body was mis drilled or the pocket was off. Maybe the neck is off?

Oh man, just saw the linked photos as well.

Did you buy that new from a shop?

Unless human error was an accurate historic detail of 1957 you paid way too much money to let things like that go unnoticed. I would bring that right back and show the shop, request a refund or a different guitar unless you want them to gently caress around trying to make it right, which they might not be able to. In my opinion, that looks like a full on manufacturing defect.

ethanol posted:

well I'm kinda mad but also I don't want to return it for little aesthetic issues it took me all night to find

The neck being misaligned is no small aesthetic issue. It's a $2k guitar. I wouldn't accept this kind of defect on a $400 squire let alone something of that value. Considering most $200-500 guitars come out of the box defect free, I wouldn't forgive this.

Verman fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Dec 21, 2022

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Spanish Manlove posted:

I'd rather watch the dude from hellripper explain how he makes everything himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rry7l5msjQ

Hah. No way! I know the guy who plays bass in his live line-up, he's the guy I was talking to about doing his goth side-project live with:

https://hailofteeth.bandcamp.com/album/all-there-ever-was-thats-all-that-will-be

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Verman posted:

Either the whole bridge/body was mis drilled or the pocket was off. Maybe the neck is off?

Oh man, just saw the linked photos as well.

Did you buy that new from a shop?

Unless human error was an accurate historic detail of 1957 you paid way too much money to let things like that go unnoticed. I would bring that right back and show the shop, request a refund or a different guitar unless you want them to gently caress around trying to make it right, which they might not be able to. In my opinion, that looks like a full on manufacturing defect.

The neck being misaligned is no small aesthetic issue. It's a $2k guitar. I wouldn't accept this kind of defect on a $400 squire let alone something of that value. Considering most $200-500 guitars come out of the box defect free, I wouldn't forgive this.

Well poo poo, ok. I guess I will get a refund, they don’t have any other 57’s available. Man that’s disappointing

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

ethanol posted:

Well poo poo, ok. I guess I will get a refund, they don’t have any other 57’s available. Man that’s disappointing

Get 2 Mexi Strats.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Sorry to double post but what do you do when you go between guitars with different scale lengths because I picked up my Strat after playing only my arch top for two weeks and everything feels off now? Is there anything like changing string gauges to make them feel closer?

Malaria
Oct 21, 2017



You can mess with string sizes to get tension to be similar across all the guitars.

Or just play your guitars. It's fine. That's what I do. I have 6 and they are all either gibson, fender or baritone scale. After a couple minutes you get used to it. Eventually you won't really notice it.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Malaria posted:

You can mess with string sizes to get tension to be similar across all the guitars.

Or just play your guitars. It's fine. That's what I do. I have 6 and they are all either gibson, fender or baritone scale. After a couple minutes you get used to it. Eventually you won't really notice it.

I think it may also just be string size now that Im mores used to the bigger strings I have on the arch top, but changing strings gauge on my strat means Refloating my Floyd Rose.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

TheMightyBoops posted:

Get 2 Mexi Strats.

This
American made is overpriced and the necks are overglossed

ethanol posted:

yeah. maybe.. I spent the whole night playing it and loving it. then I suddenly found like 3 QC issues


It is loving wild that the shop would even sell this and not send it right back.

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

ethanol posted:

yeah. maybe.. I spent the whole night playing it and loving it. then I suddenly found like 3 QC issues

lol the e string is barely on the board
I loosened the neck bolts a little and gave it a shove and it's not so bad now
https://i.imgur.com/tXBlOVB.jpg
but yeah I wouldn't give this an A for alignment because now I have this nice 'handmade' edge
https://i.imgur.com/X42CQCV.jpg
and new to me, misaligned pick guard holes, or they drilled the guitar wrong lol
https://i.imgur.com/FKmcUZ8.jpg

well I'm kinda mad but also I don't want to return it for little aesthetic issues it took me all night to find

that's a B stock guitar. or hell, even worse than B stock. return!

EDIT: and i would know -- i look at that G&L B stock guitar store all the time, and your guitar's problems are beyond the pale

Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Dec 21, 2022

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
Yeah I would return that 100%. Those little details would drive me nuts. Especially for an MIA guitar, you shouldn't have issues like that.

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer
This reminds me to check my B stock baddies on G&L's site, and behold: the ideal stratocaster :mmmhmm:

ash tray bridge instead of vibrato bridge

https://g-l-online-store.myshopify.com/products/clf1806140-year-2019

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ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Helianthus Annuus posted:

that's a B stock guitar. or hell, even worse than B stock. return!

EDIT: and i would know -- i look at that G&L B stock guitar store all the time, and your guitar's problems are beyond the pale

I’m pretty mad now . The store has a ton of inventory labeled b stock, I don’t know why they sold this to me for full price, I feel like they took a shot selling it new and are gonna mark it b stock now that buyer #1 returned it. I just wish I had seen the neck issue before I walked out because the store is not very close to me.

Also a little bit of googling tells me the new avii line is plagued with qc issues exactly like this

ethanol fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Dec 21, 2022

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
Could I get a discord invite to just anything music related on SA?

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?

ethanol posted:

I’m pretty mad now . The store has a ton of inventory labeled b stock, I don’t know why they sold this to me for full price, I feel like they took a shot selling it new and are gonna mark it b stock now that buyer #1 returned it. I just wish I had seen the neck issue before I walked out because the store is not very close to me.

Also a little bit of googling tells me the new avii line is plagued with qc issues exactly like this

Is this shop a local place near you? Are they a certified fender dealer? I would be pretty nervous about spending my money there again if that's not the the case. How they handle this issue would determine if I ever spend money at that place again. If they handle it well, maybe it was just a mistake. If they give you trouble, take your business elsewhere.

They should never sell b stock without clearly letting you know in advance and it should be discounted. Trying to get away with it for full price is sketchy. While I generally prefer to buy instruments in person to feel it before buying, I would almost rather buy from sweetwater where they look over their instruments than deal with that place again.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Well I called earlier and they are giving me a return label to ship it back. I asked them to checked for replacements and said nothing in avii is arriving until September so they agreed to just do a refund. They’re a big shop with thousands of guitars and not enough employees and it was still in its factory shipping cardboard box so they probably only glanced at it for 1 minute before handing it to me.

I’ll probably just have to wait and see if I can find an avii that’s not messed up from sweetwater or have my more local shop order one for me (they said their next one arrives in July)

Edit2: also I’m heavily considering just switching to g&l for my maple board needs, if I can find one to demo

ethanol fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 21, 2022

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Wowporn posted:

Ever since I found out East Bay Ray puts his delay right in front of the amp I feel like effects loops have been lying to me this whole time
I’ve never had an amp with an effects loop, and so I’ve always gone straight in with whatever pedals with no real problems. It’s not like there’s any shortage of people who have gotten great tones this way. It was pretty funny to me recently watching the TPS guys realize that it’s not necessarily unplayable that way when they ran a reverb pedal into the front of a plexi assuming it would be garbage, and it sounded like… a guitar with reverb.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

TheMightyBoops posted:

Sorry to double post but what do you do when you go between guitars with different scale lengths because I picked up my Strat after playing only my arch top for two weeks and everything feels off now? Is there anything like changing string gauges to make them feel closer?

practice more

sometimes I drive a tiny Ford Fiesta with a stick and sometimes I drive a big SUV with the slushiest of slushboxes and occasionally I drive an EV, and sometimes I drive big cargo vans and box trucks, and they all drive different but you learn how to adapt by putting time behind the wheel of each

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Disco Pope posted:

Hah. No way! I know the guy who plays bass in his live line-up, he's the guy I was talking to about doing his goth side-project live with:

https://hailofteeth.bandcamp.com/album/all-there-ever-was-thats-all-that-will-be

gently caress yeah, do it!

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

warmoth order shipped sooner than i thought it would! i think they looked at it and went "oh, an HSS strat pickguard in tortoise. just like everyone else" and grabbed one that was already made and put it in an envelope :p

excited to get my guitar wiring unfucked and to see faustus again.

thinking of getting a behringer clone of a boss compressor, or maybe just the real thing, and putting it at the end of my chain, too. i've been interested more in clean playing lately, but i wanna be able to control the levels a little more. on an HRD with a humbucker, there's like... no compression happening :p there's so much headroom between the pickup and the speakers. just something to stop it from being literally, physically painful if i do a really hard strum.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

landgrabber posted:

thinking of getting a behringer clone of a boss compressor, or maybe just the real thing, and putting it at the end of my chain, too. i've been interested more in clean playing lately, but i wanna be able to control the levels a little more. on an HRD with a humbucker, there's like... no compression happening :p there's so much headroom between the pickup and the speakers. just something to stop it from being literally, physically painful if i do a really hard strum.

I don’t hate Behringer as much as some, but BOSS is Best

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

The Leck posted:

I’ve never had an amp with an effects loop, and so I’ve always gone straight in with whatever pedals with no real problems. It’s not like there’s any shortage of people who have gotten great tones this way. It was pretty funny to me recently watching the TPS guys realize that it’s not necessarily unplayable that way when they ran a reverb pedal into the front of a plexi assuming it would be garbage, and it sounded like… a guitar with reverb.

Effects loops are nice if you want a clean signal for reverb/delay in a high gain amp. Dirt in your delay tails can sound cool if that's the sound you want but sometimes it will get super muddy and note definition can suffer. Dead Kennedys had a pretty clean, if a bit overdriven guitar sound and delay straight in the front sounded great with what they were doing for sure. Not really guitar related but I just watched a youtube of Holiday in Cambodia and the comment section is a hilarious disaster zone of people not understanding that anarchists don't like capitalism or authoritarian communism and being very confused and angry about the "contradictory" lyrics

SwissDonkey
Mar 29, 2007

ethanol posted:

Well I called earlier and they are giving me a return label to ship it back. I asked them to checked for replacements and said nothing in avii is arriving until September so they agreed to just do a refund. They’re a big shop with thousands of guitars and not enough employees and it was still in its factory shipping cardboard box so they probably only glanced at it for 1 minute before handing it to me.

I’ll probably just have to wait and see if I can find an avii that’s not messed up from sweetwater or have my more local shop order one for me (they said their next one arrives in July)

Edit2: also I’m heavily considering just switching to g&l for my maple board needs, if I can find one to demo

I had a recent QC issue with Fender and it loving sucked, bought a Player Plus HSS strat, bridge pickup was DOA. Went back to Fender, was with them for 8 weeks before I said gently caress this, took a store credit and got an Epiphone LP modern with a bit of change left over for pedals. I was back in at the store I bought it from today and the dude who owns it said it STILL hasn't come back from Fender and this was 4-5 months ago that I bought it. On a side note, Epiphone have come a long way since the mid 2000s, I love this guitar so much. The tapered neck profile is the tits.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



What do you guys think about vintera '50s MIM strats? local shop has one discounted at $899. two tone sunburst though.

I don't know if that would be too hard for me to stomach after failing to get an AVII

but then again, you do all seem to love your MIM strats

ethanol fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Dec 22, 2022

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

ethanol posted:

What do you guys think about vintera '50s MIM strats? local shop has one discounted at $899. two tone sunburst though.

I don't know if that would be too hard for me to stomach after failing to get an AVII

but then again, you do all seem to love your MIM strats
If it’s the two tone sunburst, it’s the Vintera 50s Modified, which is more modern and doesn’t have the big fat soft V neck, if that’s something you want.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



The Leck posted:

If it’s the two tone sunburst, it’s the Vintera 50s Modified, which is more modern and doesn’t have the big fat soft V neck, if that’s something you want.

Oh yes you're right, not what I'm looking for

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

ethanol posted:

Oh yes you're right, not what I'm looking for
Hah, glad I could help out. I've spend a disturbing amount of time poking at the details of the Vintera / Vintera Modified, and Classic / Classic Player variations of the Strat and Tele. For reference, I know the soft V neck is on the Classic Player 50's Strat, Classic Player 50's (Baja) Tele, Vintera Modified 50's Tele, and apparently the Vintera 50's Strat. I've owned the first 3, so I can definitely speak to those necks being largely the same other than the finish.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



The Leck posted:

Hah, glad I could help out. I've spend a disturbing amount of time poking at the details of the Vintera / Vintera Modified, and Classic / Classic Player variations of the Strat and Tele. For reference, I know the soft V neck is on the Classic Player 50's Strat, Classic Player 50's (Baja) Tele, Vintera Modified 50's Tele, and apparently the Vintera 50's Strat. I've owned the first 3, so I can definitely speak to those necks being largely the same other than the finish.
I keep thinking the neck shape isn't all that important though, like what I want is mostly is the gloss maple board and a super hot pickup strat. I have no real problem with the deep c on my am pro II and the satin is arguably better

theres two other problems with that guitar though..
1: it's a 2019 model, not sure how they still have it, but is that worth $899? I think it's $1199 new (on the other hand given the hosed up avii maybe precovid fender is the way to go)
2: im guessing the pickups will be dissapointing after the avii, but I could swap those?

ethanol fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Dec 22, 2022

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Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009

Huxley posted:

Digging through my wife's stuff back at her parents, she found this really embarrassing poem she submitted to one of those "young poets of america" book scams, so I wrote a song with it for a gag Christmas present. And now that it's all recorded, it sounds all mis-mixed and I am just not smart enough to figure out why.

THAT'S what I wish I had an ear for. I'd rather have a few hours of a class in that than in any sort of playing.

https://youtu.be/TEjOdqZFvhY

Goofy production aside this is an excellent video for conceptualizing how sounds work on a mix and what you can do with them.

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